The Dragons in The Winds of Winter?

[garion77]

Everyone seem to be forgetting something... Dany can't get all three dragons under her control. No Targaryen have controlled more than one dragon at a time. Not even Aegon the conqueror... Why do you think he needed his sisters...

Not one Targaryen ever controlled more than one dragon... I don't think it will start with Dany...

 

[ArstenWhitebeard]

Unless Dany does what Stannis did, and realize that the North needs to be protected first. You don't want to be taking over half a kingdom, with the northern half inhabited by... well by death incarnate really. she might swing north and breathe some fire first, pick up a few wildlings to join her army, then conquer her way south.

Also, if she goes north first, bam, theres a dragon in Bran's vacinity.

 

[Knott]

Since Bran is a warg, jumping/ controlling non-intelligent animals/ people (Hodor), would that not rule out any ability to "jump" into a dragon. Seems that Bran jumps into enough other things, Summer/ ravens/ trees/ Hodor to keep himself occupied, without trying to grab a dragon. I believe it was mentioned that the more intelligent something is, the harder it is to be occupied, warged into. (Varmyer or Prologue ADWD??) Since Bran can't use his legs, how would he mount, or stay on the dragon? Would almost seem like over compensating if Bran was given a dragon, even an ice dragon.

All the dragons mentioned have seemed to be smarter then average animals. The fact that only one person at a time can ever ride a dragon, and no person can ever ride more then one dragon would seem to support a certain level of intelligence.
Drogon was smart enough not to get caught and imprisoned in the temple originally. After Rhaegal and Viserion escape from the temple they have separate layers, and manage to avoid getting caught again.

As for who'll ride the other dragons. Let's give one to Aegon (Blackfyre), and the other to a cunning little ******* with mismatched eyes (1 green, the other dark), and hair of the palest gold, who dreamed of riding dragons as a child. Maybe a nice green cunning dragon!

 

[Koopa]

One other point to everyone... did the old guy mentoring Bran die or is he still alive? I seem to remember him being a Targaryen *******. His power is orders of magnitude above Bran's, so if he's alive and a dragon came within his reach...

You mean the 3-eyed crow? That's Bloodraven no? If so he might have seen a dragon when young. I think Duncan the Tall master Pennytree claimed to have seen the last dragon, malformed lived not for long. Bloodraven is bit older then Duncan, so he might have seen that one as well. Beyond that, i doubt he'd seen much dragons.

I think Bloodraven is alive, but by now he's practically a tree (merged into it). He's a bit older than Maester Aemon and Aemon was considered to be the oldest living person. I'd say he about 135 years old now.

Also, pls lets not give fAegon a dragon. one obnoxious girl getting to ride Drogon is enough.

 

[Knott]

Also, pls lets not give fAegon a dragon. one obnoxious girl getting to ride Drogon is enough.[/QUOTE]

What's the matter? The idea of an obnoxious girl on Drogon, a prissy pretender on Viserion(?) and a ******* dwarf on Rhaegal (?) doesn't appeal to you??
I think it would be ironically hilarious!! Besides, maybe the obnoxious girl and the prissy pretender will bring back the Dance of the Dragons!!
Now that would be a twist!!

 

[LilyDraken]

There's also the possibility of Jon assuming one of the dragons. He has the ability, albeit limited, to warg, as he has unconsciously in his dream state with Ghost. There's also the accepted fact that Jon is Rhaegar's son, which makes him half Stark, half Targaryen. It would be amazing indeed to have a direwolf at his side, as well as the ability to mount a dragon and command from the air, which is also part of his birthright as a Targaryen. Just my $.02.

 

[Koopa]

No dragon for Jon, he's stuck in the North + he's got Ghost. Don't see it happening. How is he ever gonna get to meereen?

 

[ArstenWhitebeard]

No dragon for Jon, he's stuck in the North + he's got Ghost. Don't see it happening. How is he ever gonna get to meereen?

I think the idea is that Dany comes to the North.

I am going to reiterate a theory that I had a while ago that is based on one of Quaithe's prophesies.

To go north, you must journey south, to reach the west you must go east. To go forward you must go back and to touch the light you must pass beneath the shadow.

My theory is that Dany is going to go all the way east, beyond anything we have a map for, and end up on the WEST side of westeros and will actually end up somewhere near or on Bear Island, making that her own version of Dragon Stone, an island from which she will launch her assault on the 7 kingdoms with blood and fire, but she will first take the fight to the White Walkers.

Everything fits with Quaithe's riddle. Bear island is North, Asshai is South. Westeros is west, Asshai is East. to go forward she must go back. From Meereen, she would need to literally go back through Lhazareen, back through the Red Waste, back to Qarth. and the light she needs to touch?

North and north and north he looked, to the curtain of light at the end of the world, and then beyond that curtain. He looked deep into the heart of winter, and then he cried out, afraid, and the heat of his tears burned his cheeks.

Bran's dream. To touch the light that guards the heart of winter, she needs to pass beneath the shadow.

 

[Koopa]

I still think the dragons will have riders before she reaches Westeros, but i may end up completely wrong about that.

 

[ArstenWhitebeard]

we could both be right, but who knows. When Dany asks Quaithe what she will find in Asshai, Quaithe responds with "Truth". Maybe the truth she will find is that she is not the last dragon, that she has half siblings that could be dragon riders.

I think it's safe to say that Dany will be going to asshai.

 

[Narkalui]

Well if she does I sure as hell hope she makes it quick, cos I want her landing in Westeros before the end of Winds of Winter!

 

[ArstenWhitebeard]

Me as well my friend, me as well.

 

[Knott]

I think the idea is that Dany comes to the North.

I am going to reiterate a theory that I had a while ago that is based on one of Quaithe's prophesies.



My theory is that Dany is going to go all the way east, beyond anything we have a map for, and end up on the WEST side of westeros and will actually end up somewhere near or on Bear Island, making that her own version of Dragon Stone, an island from which she will launch her assault on the 7 kingdoms with blood and fire, but she will first take the fight to the White Walkers.

Everything fits with Quaithe's riddle. Bear island is North, Asshai is South. Westeros is west, Asshai is East. to go forward she must go back. From Meereen, she would need to literally go back through Lhazareen, back through the Red Waste, back to Qarth. and the light she needs to touch?



Bran's dream. To touch the light that guards the heart of winter, she needs to pass beneath the shadow.

I've wondered that for awhile if Dany would end up on the west shore of Westeros. Glad I'm not alone with that thought. Didn't even clue in on Bran's dream supporting it though.

 

[Narkalui]

You think she might go East all the way to Highgarden or Oldtown on Drogon? Maybe...

But then again, would she abandon Mereen so easily?

 

[Koopa]

I think she's about to leave Meereen behind. I think that was part of the untangling needed in the Meereen Knot. How to get Dany out of the city. I think GRRM has set it up in such a way that by the end of ADWD it's believable should dany decide to move on from meereen.

 

[Judderman]

For her to go all the way to till she reaches the western shores of Westeros means either the world is rather small or she is going to spend a few years going around. I think the idea that she has to go somewhere east of Westeros (perhaps for an alliance) before going west again is more likely.

 

[LilyDraken]

I think she's about to leave Meereen behind. I think that was part of the untangling needed in the Meereen Knot. How to get Dany out of the city. I think GRRM has set it up in such a way that by the end of ADWD it's believable should Dany decide to move on from Meereen.

Meereen was a sinking ship, as all of Dany's advisors tried to tell her; she wouldn't listen. It took Drogon flying in and spiriting her away to convince her that it was time to move on. (Well, at least that's what I'm assuming. ADWD ends with her pretty feral, Drogon about to take out a khalassar.) So I totally agree with Koopa, that was set up to get her out.

It's possible Dany could continue east and end up in western Westeros. Or it could mean that she's gone east to forge alliances (some of which she still has), and then go west with Victarion.

I think that Bran's dream corroborating all this is very insightful, and as we already know, dreams and visions are always very telling.

 

[Knott]

I think she's about to leave Meereen behind. I think that was part of the untangling needed in the Meereen Knot. How to get Dany out of the city. I think GRRM has set it up in such a way that by the end of ADWD it's believable should dany decide to move on from meereen.

I don't think she's going to have a choice but to leave Meereen behind. Selmy and her army are leaving the city to attack the Yunkaii army. At the same time the Iron Fleet is sailing up to Meereen.
Once the battle is won (Daenerys on Drogon, Tyrion claiming a dragon), the city of Meereen will rise behind her, led by either Reznak or the Shavepate. She'll be trapped outside with a greatly reduced army, and a readily available fleet (Victarion).
Question is, which way will she go?
East or West??

 

[Knott]

It's possible Dany could continue east and end up in western Westeros. Or it could mean that she's gone east to forge alliances (some of which she still has), and then go west with Victarion.

I'd like to say she goes East, just to see Asshai. However, I think for plot purposes, she has to go West. Wether she lands in Dorne, and gathers up the Dornish POV's, or lands in the Stormlands to join forces with the GC, or travels up the coast of ESOS to Braavos and gathers Arya before crossing to the Vale, she has multiple options. But she has to start moving, and GRRM has to start reducing his # of POV's.