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Would it be a mistake to only make changes that I agree with? Teetering on the edge of information overload.

At least IMO no, definitely not, and you should, in fact, never make a change you don't agree with...It is YOUR story, after all. We are just making suggestions....Harlan Ellison once said you can be as sensitive an artist as you wish in the writing/revising stage, but once you are finally done you must grow teeth and claws and defend your work as a mother would her child, for that is exactly what it is to you.:)

I apologise, btw, if it was my suggestions that tipped the balance, or if I've missed the point of your complaint
 
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Harlan Ellison once said you can be as sensitive an artist as you wish in the writing stage, but once you are done you must grow teeth and claws and defend your work as a mother would her child, for that is exactly what it is.:)

Unless you're talking to Holly Lisle at a party, of course ...

I agree, only make changes you agree with, but bear in mind that the advice you agree with will probably change as you develop.
 
Would it be a mistake to only make changes that I agree with?

Absolutely not a mistake - but it's worth trying to understand the where and why of any criticisms. That way, you can place them in context.

I appreciate getting a crit can feel a little tough, but the feedback is always well-meaning here.

Either way, I think the main problem is your use of description, not least because you don't seem so sure whether you're them objectively or through the subjective character experience.

It's not a big deal, though - that's why we end up with multiple writing and editing drafts. Just when we think we're getting there, something else comes up that needs our attention. :D
 
I skipped the other critiques so my own wouldn't be flavored, so please excuse me if I re-tread covered ground. Mostly I notice little things that kind of just buzz at me, not real big-picture stuff, which makes me seem real annoying, but I have found in my writing that it's the little thing that make or break. If small details don't pull together, it might make the reader lose confidence in the big things. On that note, please know that I like where this story is going, it just needs a few kinks hammered out.

1. The rising on the rope: wouldn't an interplanetary exploratory expedition be extremely well-funded? Doesn't he have a harness or something instead of just hanging on to a rope by hand? Would anyone bring a braided hemp rope into space? Why does the winch take a few moments to slowly start after he gave the order?

2. He switches from English measurement (feet) to Metric (meters). This might be part of his character, such as if he's American military, but I think it might work better the other. He could think tactically in metric, but when he really needs to describe something he switches his syntax back to English, which he actually thinks in.

3. Jackrabbit does not have a threatening connotation. It's right there with wallaby. I'd omit that comparison altogether. 'Loped' is a good word, 'charged', 'tore', 'raged', 'bounded'. Engage my other senses when this creature shows up. This is the point my adrenaline should start pumping. Tell me what sound it makes, if it smells weird, if this bounding 13-foot-at-the-shoulder creature tears up plants and dirt as it runs, if hot saliva gets flung off its mouthful of fangs.


4. If the beam of this weapon takes three seconds to do work, I wouldn't say he fired it. Activated it, maybe. The weapon could use some work. I don't think anyone anywhere would bring something like that to place with animals. It might make sense if they didn't expect to encounter hostile wildlife, as in his 'pistol' could be a re-purposed welding, drilling, or surgical laser.

5. At first I got the impression that Don was being lifted straight up a shear cliff or something, but paragraph two give me the idea that he's just being dragged up a steep hill. Whichever is the case, that needs to get cleared up. And a military guy wouldn't just let himself get dragged, he'd tie the rope off on his waist and walk his way up the hill, or any cliff less than ninety degrees.

6. If the winch is hooked to a ship, why don't they take off and carry him up and away from the threat? I realize this is just an excerpt, so I may be missing context.

7. Don, while being in enough contact with whoever's at the top to give the order to start the winch, has no other contact or reaction for the people above when charged by a large alien predator. No 'Can we speed this up?' or 'Get everyone aboard!' or anything else. The character doesn't react to the threat, so your audience might not either.

8. This is supposed to be a fast-paced attack, but the phrase 'In almost no time' doesn't convey that.

9. Are the dozen creatures down in the valley or level with the ship? Also, Don knows the creatures don't care about his gun, so he might prioritize getting his gear and crew aboard rather than standing watch.

I like the character and the creature you have, but the urgency of an action/escape scene isn't there for me. In my experience, I've found there's a couple ways to convey this: either through a fast-paced 'real-time' recounting, where everything's a blur and all you get is feelings and impressions of details, or a blow-by-blow tactical breakdown analyzing distances, threats, and other details. You're right in the middle there, and one nudge could make this scene amazing either way.

Like I said, I'm a nit-picky SoB, but the devil's in the details.
 
Absolutely not a mistake - but it's worth trying to understand the where and why of any criticisms. That way, you can place them in context.

I appreciate getting a crit can feel a little tough, but the feedback is always well-meaning here.

Either way, I think the main problem is your use of description, not least because you don't seem so sure whether you're them objectively or through the subjective character experience.

It's not a big deal, though - that's why we end up with multiple writing and editing drafts. Just when we think we're getting there, something else comes up that needs our attention. :D

It's not that it feels rough. It doesn't. I've been legitimately under attack before (as a person, not a writer) and believe me, it nearly killed me. Constructive criticism is nothing compared to that.

The real source of confusion is getting advice through two or more different sets of opinion. I don't mind that, it just life. But I need to choose one over the other. What I mean by going with the advice that I agree with is going with the one that most closely resembles what I may have, or could have had, in my mind already.
 
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At least IMO no, definitely not, and you should, in fact, never make a change you don't agree with...It is YOUR story, after all. We are just making suggestions....Harlan Ellison once said you can be as sensitive an artist as you wish in the writing/revising stage, but once you are finally done you must grow teeth and claws and defend your work as a mother would her child, for that is exactly what it is to you.:)

I apologise, btw, if it was my suggestions that tipped the balance, or if I've missed the point of your complaint

No, I don't think it was your suggestions. The question had been brewing for a while.

Knowing me, though, I'll defend my work with stone cold silence. ;)
 
The real source of confusion is getting advice through two or more different sets of opinion. I don't mind that, it just life. But I need to choose one over the other.
As I said in your other thread, look at the people who have critiqued you -- check their other critiques, their other posts, their own writings if they've posted any in Critiques. If you can assess how well a person writes him/herself, that will help you to judge the quality of any comment and therefore which path it might be best to follow.
 
Also consider whether the critique fits with your general vision of your piece. While a person may have a preference for shorter sentences and tight action, perhaps that does not mesh with the character involved in the scene, or perhaps you are drawing out this section for your own purposes. The critique must match your tone, and it is hard to adequately judge how a 400-word example fits into your overall WiP.
 
I agree there's no point in following suggestions that don't fit with what you want. All critiques offer is a way of flagging up things that made the reader pause, or worried them -- you might have an excellent reason for those things.

I used to make changes as soon as I got critiques but now I find it helpful to leave alterations for a while to let myself (or my subconscious, or something) filter suggestions. Sometimes criticisms I didn't accept when I read them come to seem very relevant, sometimes things I decided I needed to change turn out not to be the problem I feared.

TJ's right, of course -- when you've seen more of the sort of stuff we write and the way in which we critique, it's likely to be easier to decide what's relevant and what isn't.

Good luck with it :)
 
There have been many comments about my wordiness. I know where it comes from. That part of my style is deeply influenced by Douglas Adams. I really don't think I can help it. I can try toning it down but to me, it just feels like butchery. Maybe I'm just not as good at it as Mr. Adams and it comes out as butchery to the reader but it's a part of me. I'll try without making promises. Or not.
 
Ctg's crit is very good, he demonstrates the tactic of shortening your sentence length to speed up te pacing, and of strict detail economy to allow te readers attention to stay on the active motion of the scene... Another big point i agree with is the threat/response thing... The stakes have to be higher, then tension more poignant for the reader to really get engaged

Also, how much higher gravity? The higher the gravity, the less likey that natural selection will choose for jumping mobility, or anything that would elevate the organism off the ground; too much of an energy/calorie requirement. With sf, definitely dont breeze over the world-build or you will get called out by too many people.
 
5. At first I got the impression that Don was being lifted straight up a shear cliff or something, but paragraph two give me the idea that he's just being dragged up a steep hill. Whichever is the case, that needs to get cleared up. And a military guy wouldn't just let himself get dragged, he'd tie the rope off on his waist and walk his way up the hill, or any cliff less than ninety degrees.

6. If the winch is hooked to a ship, why don't they take off and carry him up and away from the threat? I realize this is just an excerpt, so I may be missing context.

7. Don, while being in enough contact with whoever's at the top to give the order to start the winch, has no other contact or reaction for the people above when charged by a large alien predator. No 'Can we speed this up?' or 'Get everyone aboard!' or anything else. The character doesn't react to the threat, so your audience might not either.

Yes, I had the same thoughts. I couldn't figure out if he was being lifted into the air or dragged up the hill, and it seemed that the people at the top or on the ship (whichever it was) ought to be doing something.
 
I'm quite a fan of the descriptive part, but I think you could maybe put more description IN (I know, but hear me out) but cut the sentences down...putting more description in will terrify the reader more, but you have to make the description part of the action, let the description attack the reader a little...say maybe like:

The creature was huge, just legs, and teeth, and huge loping strides; strides covering so much ground, it was just a blur, a huge, terrifying beige blur, all snarls, and anger, and time slowed for Don...

Right, now I know that isn't great as I don't really know what your creature looks like, but commas bring tension, they carry you forward, to me lots of 'and's and commas increase the feeling of desperation and terror, a sort of "Oh GOD, it has TEETH...and I just saw the CLAWS...oh and that TAIL, all barbed - and - OH GOD I AM GOING TO DIE" mentality, but that may be just me...you get the descriptions and the action together without having to sacrifice the language too much. But again, that is just me and others may totally disagree with how I see/write descriptive action.
 
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