July's Joyous Jousting at Stories and other generally non-Journalistic offerings

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Just finished our very own Toby Frost's God Emperor of Didcot. Another very good book. Still a little uneven quality wise. But I think this is often a problem for comedy - not every joke works for every person. However there were a lot of really great scenes and Frost does write very good action. Also some excellent nods, winks and jabs at various other authors/books/films which were all fun.
 
Just finished the first of Robin Hobb's Tawny Man trilogy, but I'm going to take a break before reading the others because Shadow of Night by Deborah Harkness just came out - I really enjoyed her first book (A Discovery of Witches), some really great characters although a little too many descriptions of food and wine...

In the second book they travel back in time to Elizabethan London, should be interesting!
 
All this talk about Aickman in another thread has whetted my appetite and forced me to pause in my reading of Liz William's "A Glass of Shadow" and have just started reading one of his stories "My Poor Friend" from the collection "Power of Darkness".
 
Just finished the first of Robin Hobb's Tawny Man trilogy, but I'm going to take a break before reading the others because Shadow of Night by Deborah Harkness just came out - I really enjoyed her first book (A Discovery of Witches), some really great characters although a little too many descriptions of food and wine...

In the second book they travel back in time to Elizabethan London, should be interesting!

I had a mixed reaction to that, I loved the academic stuff and the fact it had a realistic description of a special library, very close in type to the one I work in, but I could have done without some of the romance. I'll be interested to read the second one though, the time-travelling aspect could take it in a totally different direction.
 
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Okay, currently reading The Big Sleep of Raymond Chandler. What prose! Does anyone write like that anymore?

No, and it's probably just as well. Chandler is one of those performers who walks a tightrope and part of the fun of reading him is wondering if and when he'll fall. (I think Poe is like that, too, if in a different way, as is watching Jimmy Cagney acting.)


Fried Egg: I thought I'd have The Grin of the Dark done by now, but I've slowed down reading the last few days. I may have done the Campbell a disservice by picking it up so soon after finishing Cormac McCarthy's Blood Meridian, which is a novel that occupied my mind for a few weeks. McCarthy's is a non-horror novel that is more horrifying than some horror novels and that takes a very matter-of-fact and serious approach to scenes of lavish violence and bloodshed. Meanwhile, better than half-way through the Campbell and I'm only just becoming attuned to how his horror novel concerns the anarchic humor to be found in horror. This reversal of change of tone has caused me a bit of mental whiplash and is probably having an impact on my appraisal.


Randy M.
 
I've just finished Verner Vinges's "A Fire Upon the Deep". I must confess that although it was enjoyable enough (the Tines were excellently portrayed" I didn't think it was as gOod as others made it out to be. It was overwritten by 100 pages IMO.

Now on to A Deepness in the sky.
 
Started Abercrombie's Before They Are Hanged.

Have you finished this yet? Fav characters in the series ? An improvement of the first book in your eyes ? I think its much more interesting,better story than the first. The characters have grown much from book 1.

I wonder because i have started enjoying this series now after book 2 and not many others reading this series as new reads now. Im afraid the others would spoil me like they do in this books thread in Abercrombie forums about book 3.....
 
Persevere, hopefully you will get into it. The emphasis is definitely more on the characters and the prose than the world building with this one and I thought it was a masterpiece.

Here are some unappreciative comments on a first reading of The Forgotten Beasts of Eld that people can read if interested. I might not have been fair to the book because some things put me off so much.

*******SPOILERS**********

Why does the title call the creatures "forgotten"? Everyone in the story seems acquainted with them, by reputation at least, so far as I remember. Does McKillip mean that we, readers in the (then) 20th century, have forgotten them? Also, is the Blammor/Rommalb a "beast"? But it seems to be one of the members of Sybel's gathering of creatures, at least eventually.

One of the things that put me off this author before was the names. "Eld" is the name of a realm, or a shortened name of one (Eldwold), but of course it is an old or poetic word meaning "long ago" -- "Of eld it was told that," etc. Is McKillip deliberately playing with that? if so, it compromises the self-consistency of that world to use the word intending a modern English meaning too, I suppose.

Other names put me off as well -- Sybel (sybil), Drede (dread), etc. This is the same author who wrote a book about the Riddle-Master of Hed (head; I guess riddles make you scratch your head). Other names seemed freely borrowed from Tolkien: the royal city of Mondor, the Mirkon Forest. However, Lomar, in Chapter 6, is a name I remember from the Weird Tales circle.

Lynette sounds like a country-western singer's name, to my ear.

There was much dialogue and it was rarely impressive. The characters are supposed to inhabit a remote and beautiful realm of magical perils, but they talk like this: "How did you talk her into that?" ..... "I never wanted anything special before" (pp. 110, 114 of my paperback edition; both from Chapter 7). And they start to say something and then break off, like characters in banal popular fiction.

The use of similes, usually with like, was really obtrusive; I found myself anticipating the next one, like dreading the next cough of a nearby fellow bus rider when you are trying to read. And I felt that I was constantly being reminded that the book was by a woman because there was so much in it about people's hair and about their clothes.

It didn't seem to me that the core story had to be a fantasy. The magical animals appear (off-stage) to break up what would have been a worse war, but otherwise it doesn't seem to me that they are all that important. The core story seems to be Sybel's love of her foster-son, her developing feelings for her good suitor and then husband, Coren, and her outrage over her "violation" by Drede, which makes her want revenge at whatever cost to anyone, even alienating Coren. Turns out that during much of the time she was plotting Drede's demise, he was already dead. At the end of the story, she and Coren are reunited, she receives his forgiveness. Very well, but did this story demand embodiment as a fantasy? It seems a story much like this one could have been cast as a realistic story, since, for me at least, on a first reading, the author did not have the imaginative power needed for excellent fantasy.

But I have to question my reading -- or perhaps misreading. The book won the World Fantasy Award. More significantly to me, it prompted my favorite teacher from undergraduate days, after I had my degree, to send me a postcard -- the only time he did so -- commending the book to me and claiming it "flies in company" with A Wizard of Earthsea, George MacDonald's Lilith, and Charles Williams's All Hallows' Eve -- very high praise indeed. Maybe I'd be more impressed on a second reading... but I don't expect to give it that attention. I guess I don't much like fantasy, the modern publishers' genre, though some fantasy is about as important to me as a book can be.
 
Now I have moved on to another book from my backlog, Lord Dunsany's The Curse of the Wize Woman, bought 35 years ago almost to the day at thelegendary Powell's Books of Portland, Oregon. It is off to a fine start, full of that feeling of open-air life and expectation that John Buchan knew about too. I don't know if we will ever have any more books like this because nobody grows up like this any more. But at least there are a lot of books from the writers who wrote classics in the late Victorian and Edwardian eras -- although this one was published as late as 1933; Dunsany doesn't seem to have been all written out!
 
"Lynette sounds like a country-western singer's name, to my ear."

Yeah, Tammy Wynette. Good singer.
 
I'm reading Land of Dreams by James P. Blaylock. I read it once before, but so long ago that I remember very little.

It reminds me of Bradbury's Something Wicked This Way Comes, conjuring up the same kind of small-town magic.
 
Have you finished this yet? Fav characters in the series ? An improvement of the first book in your eyes ? I think its much more interesting,better story than the first. The characters have grown much from book 1.

I wonder because i have started enjoying this series now after book 2 and not many others reading this series as new reads now. Im afraid the others would spoil me like they do in this books thread in Abercrombie forums about book 3.....

I finished it a couple days ago and yes, I did find it an improvement over the first book. The first book took me two attempts before I read it all the way through (for my first attempt my expectations were wrong and it disappointed me, the second time around I enjoyed it).

****some very minor spoilers****
West, the Northmen he traveled with, and Glokta were probably my favorite characters in Before They are Hanged. Logen was fun too. Ferro was a bit too scowly for me. Jezal's temperance was maybe a little contrived. If I have one criticism of the book it would be the number of times the word "sneered" was used.

The next book should be fun.

I've read both Best Served Cold and The Heroes and enjoyed them both quite a bit. The latter was fantastic. I think Abercrombie's writing ability has grown steadily from book to book.


In other news I started Bernard Cornwall's Sharpe's Tiger yesterday.
 
Progressing with my reading of the Augustans... not as rapidly as I'd like, but still making progress. Currently combining reading from The Spectator with a selection of the works of Jonathan Swift, in particular the well-known Gulliver's Travels, which I've not read in several decades; to be followed by several of his other satirical pieces, prose and verse....
 
I finished it a couple days ago and yes, I did find it an improvement over the first book. The first book took me two attempts before I read it all the way through (for my first attempt my expectations were wrong and it disappointed me, the second time around I enjoyed it).

****some very minor spoilers****
West, the Northmen he traveled with, and Glokta were probably my favorite characters in Before They are Hanged. Logen was fun too. Ferro was a bit too scowly for me. Jezal's temperance was maybe a little contrived. If I have one criticism of the book it would be the number of times the word "sneered" was used.

The next book should be fun.

I've read both Best Served Cold and The Heroes and enjoyed them both quite a bit. The latter was fantastic. I think Abercrombie's writing ability has grown steadily from book to book.


In other news I started Bernard Cornwall's Sharpe's Tiger yesterday.

I like most of the characters and its only really Ferro and her constant anger,sneering,scowling that troubled me. Typically the female character of the main characters are the one didnt grow in more than 2 books i have read and must be supernatural warrior woman to belong in. I expected much better from Abercrombie.... he is no Gemmell or Kearney in this case. I expect more than the damsel in distress Ardee and Ferro that was unlikeable in every page.

West was also very angry,bitter sometimes but he had good reason and he has changed over the books. Jezal i like as my second fav after Glokta because he isnt typical hero in this kind of book. He was an arrogant,spoiled soldier and his growth has been fun to read. Logen is much more typical barbarian warrior, anti-hero. I liked rooting for spoiled Jezal. In book 3 he is very different from book 1. Dogman and his gang was my third fav after Glokta,Jezal. They are one of the biggest reason i enjoyed book 2 more than the first.

Im reading book 3 right now and he has grown from each book but he needs to learn to write better female characters. I hope that is a temporary flaw of his writing. I look forward to read his other books.
 
Im reading book 3 right now and he has grown from each book but he needs to learn to write better female characters. I hope that is a temporary flaw of his writing. I look forward to read his other books.


I'm interested to see what you think of Best Served Cold.
 
I've actually only read the last two, which is not really the way to go about things. The third was set in the world's prehistory, and was very good, lots of stuff about prejudice and the toll war takes on people, adult topics handled in a way older children can appreciate.
The last one was harder to get into because I knew less of what was going on and several characters had about four different names, but I could understand what was going in and enjoy it despite the plot being complicated. Essentially, the story is girl gets sent back in time to mend history, as the woman who should have been queen disappeared before she could. However, it all gets very complicated very quickly, and had lots of intruige, which is good, and brilliant characters, as is usual for Wynne Jones.
Not my favourite of hers, but very good, and good for an older child just beginning to read young adult fiction, as complex plot but no sex and not much violence.
Thank you, SiobhandT :)
 
I've just finished Verner Vinges's "A Fire Upon the Deep". I must confess that although it was enjoyable enough (the Tines were excellently portrayed" I didn't think it was as gOod as others made it out to be. It was overwritten by 100 pages IMO.

Now on to A Deepness in the sky.
A Deepness in the Sky is one of my Science Fiction favourites.

Spoiler said:
And my arachnophobia did not bother me once!

Which I can not say about the latest three SF-books I've read: Book 2 and book 3 of S. Andrew Swann's Apothesosis series, Heretics and Messiah. Heretics seemed to raise some possibilities after the story had taken its time getting off the ground in book 1 (Prophets), but imho Messiah just delivered standard fare and an end which - to my mind - does not resolve a lot.

I also finished Extremis by Steve White and Charles E. Gannon. It is a sequel to the Starfire series, which Steven White co-authored with David Weber between 1990 and 2002. I shouldn't have bothered ...
 
Starting Guy Gavriel Kay's Sailing to Sarantium. I adore that man's writing.
 
I'm interested to see what you think of Best Served Cold.

Im thinking about right now which i should read first Best Served Cold or The Heroes. I do hope he can repeat the storytelling,characters of First Law.

Right now im wondering if he can finish First Law series well in book 3. Alot of wars,story-lines to finish in the last book.

What do you think Sharpe's Tiger? My first Sharpe read and only read of that series so far. I like the Indian setting, seeing the Napoleonic era from the foot soldiers, the people who fights wars on land. Not just read naval fiction about that historical era. I should read more of the series soon.
 
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