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Finished Timelike Infinity by Stephen Baxter. I think I'm going to pick up a lot of Baxter's books. Good stuff. He accomplished a lot in only 250ish pages (took us to the end - and a new beginning - of time and history). He did a good job of mixing science and hand-waving to create a largely believable situation and resolution with only some suspension of disbelief required. I'll read Ring soon, but first...

I'm going to read the Edge of Infinity story collection. Or at least some of it. It involves stories by lots of great writers (Alastair Reynolds, James S A Corey, Elizabeth Bear, Stephen Baxter, and lots of others) writing about human civilization capable of travel throughout the solar system. This is right up my alley. This will also be the first ebook I will have ever read.
 
Vertigo: Although it may seem a bit too much to take on, you might find Burke's essay "A Philosophical Inquiry into the Origin of Our Ideas of the Sublime and Beautiful" as a good source to see some of the deeper, more "terrific" aspects of this and other "horror" novels of the same period. Using Burke's schema, Frankenstein (and in fact the majority of the Gothics) is closer to the "sublime", which Wikipedia rather succinctly sums up as:

In short, the Beautiful, according to Burke, is what is well-formed and aesthetically pleasing, whereas the Sublime is what has the power to compel and destroy us.

Their summing up of the major ideas of the essay are as follows:

The origins of our ideas of the beautiful and the sublime, for Burke, can be understood by means of their causal structures. According to Aristotelian physics and metaphysics, causation can be divided into formal, material, efficient and final causes. The formal cause of beauty is the passion of love; the material cause concerns aspects of certain objects such as smallness, smoothness, delicacy, etc.; the efficient cause is the calming of our nerves; the final cause is God's providence. What is most peculiar and original to Burke's view of beauty is that it cannot be understood by the traditional bases of beauty: proportion, fitness, or perfection. The sublime also has a causal structure that is unlike that of beauty. Its formal cause is thus the passion of fear (especially the fear of death); the material cause is equally aspects of certain objects such as vastness, infinity, magnificence, etc.; its efficient cause is the tension of our nerves; the final cause is God having created and battled Satan, as expressed in Milton's great epic Paradise Lost.

It is not by chance that one of the most famous quotations cited within Mary's book is that bit from The Rime of the Ancient Mariner:

"Like one that on a lonesome road
Doth walk in fear and dread,
And having once turned round walks on,
And turns no more his head;
Because he knows a frightful fiend
Doth close behind him tread."

Incidentally, that swinging back and forth you mention touches on another common interpretation of the novel: that the creature and Frankenstein are two sides of the same character; the "monster" he creates is Frankenstein's own shadow, as it were, as Hyde is Jekyll's.

On this type of "horror" (and I use the quotations marks for a reason), one might keep in mind Poe's comment when he was criticized for being "too German" in his terror tales that "I maintain that terrors is not of Germany, but of the soul".

Should you be interested in a brief look at Burke's essay, the Wikipedia entry can be found here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Phil...gin_of_Our_Ideas_of_the_Sublime_and_Beautiful

while the entire essay may be found here:

http://www.bartleby.com/24/2/

though you may also (or perhaps instead) want to take a look at Letitia Barbauld's shorter piece, "On the Pleasure Derived from Objects of Terror":

http://www.litgothic.com/PDFOther/barbauld_terror.pdf

Most of the terror writings of this period were written with this philosophical basis in mind.

As for my so denoting "horror"... I am here thinking of how we moderns confuse "horror" and "terror", which are two related but distinct things.* As Sir Devendra P. Varma (one of the leading authorities on the Gothic tale of terror) put it: "The difference between Terror and Horror is the difference between awful apprehension and sickening realization: between the smell of death and stumbling against a corpse."

As an elaboration, he explained:

Terror creates an intangible atmosphere of spiritual psychic dread, a certain superstitions shudder at the other world. Horror resorts to a ruder presentation of the macabre: by an exact portrayal of the physically horrible and revolving, against a far more terrible background of spiritual gloom and despair. Horror appeals to sheer dread and repulsion, by brooding upon the gloomy and the sinister, and lacerates the nerves by establishing actual cutaneous contact with the supernatural.

Once again, Wiki proves to be helpful in summarizing these matters:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horror_and_terror

If all this seems a bit rarefied and theoretical... it may well be; but understanding such a background and the implications of what these distinctions are may help one to appreciate much more fully the experience of reading these types of works.

*For those interested, here are the comments of several others making that distinction:

http://academic.brooklyn.cuny.edu/english/melani/gothic/terror_horror.html
 
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Finished Timelike Infinity by Stephen Baxter. I think I'm going to pick up a lot of Baxter's books. Good stuff. He accomplished a lot in only 250ish pages (took us to the end - and a new beginning - of time and history). He did a good job of mixing science and hand-waving to create a largely believable situation and resolution with only some suspension of disbelief required. I'll read Ring soon

I think it's already been discussed but I would say that, if you want, there are a couple of little snippets in Ring that would be more fun if you've read Raft and Flux (or was it just one snippet in each of Timelike and Ring with the Flux one being in Ring?) but it's definitely no big deal and probably not worth it for just that, since Flux wasn't my favorite and it might be better to read the main two closer together.

Anyway, I just read Baxter's Traces and can at least marginally recommend that if you're interested. I'll be reading The Time Ships for my next Baxter and then, at long last, will get into the second Xeelee set. I've read some of the stories from Resplendent and they are some of the best things I've read - "Silver Ghost", "The Cold Sink", "On the Orion Line", etc. Just really great stuff.
 
I just finished A Canticle for Leibowitz the first 150 pages took a week, the last 200 took one day. I couldn't quite give it 5 on goodreads as it was very difficult to get into, but once I did it was so worth it. A book that will live with me for some time! I've also picked up another Sci-Fi book based on religion as my next book: Rachel Pollack's Unquenchable Fire. Looking at goodreads it has some widely variable reviews, and is pretty under-read compared to most of the Sci-Fi masterworks series so I feel like a bit of a pioneer. It won the Arthur C. Clarke award in 1989.
 
Well Greg Bear's Forge of God was really good but not finding the sequel Anvil of Stars anywhere near as appealing! Bunch of kids on a ship shaped like a sock filled with three balls going...somewhere. Feels claustrophobic.
 
Well Greg Bear's Forge of God was really good but not finding the sequel Anvil of Stars anywhere near as appealing! Bunch of kids on a ship shaped like a sock filled with three balls going...somewhere. Feels claustrophobic.

LOL:D i just couldnt get into the forge of god, that president character was such a dumba** i got really annoyed with the whole worlds gonna blow up but no real evidence of aliens throughout the book
 
At the moment I'm reading H.P Lovecraft's Book of Horror, a collection of short horror stories which he mentions in his essay.

Rather liked Dickens short Signalman story. The House and the Brain started off really well, really enjoyed that but then it turned into loads of dialogue that I mostly skipped. Then read The Spider by Hans Heinz Ewers and what an amazing line to open with!

When the student of medicine, Richard Bracquemont, decided to move
into room #7 of the small Hotel Stevens, Rue Alfred Stevens (Paris 6),
three persons had already hanged themselves from the cross-bar of the
window in that room on three successive Fridays.

That is definitely how you open a story. I enjoyed this story (I love love love horror stories in diary forms, I love that you can watch a person's mind unravel as strange things happen) although it was one that you could largely stay one step ahead of, especially when they started their little window game.

Looking forward to the rest, though.
 
LOL:D i just couldnt get into the forge of god, that president character was such a dumba** i got really annoyed with the whole worlds gonna blow up but no real evidence of aliens throughout the book

Not seeing the aliens didnt bother me at all. Im used to it- I read Clarke ;)
As for the president, of course he's a douche-he's a politician...
 
I think it's already been discussed but I would say that, if you want, there are a couple of little snippets in Ring that would be more fun if you've read Raft and Flux (or was it just one snippet in each of Timelike and Ring with the Flux one being in Ring?) but it's definitely no big deal and probably not worth it for just that, since Flux wasn't my favorite and it might be better to read the main two closer together.

Anyway, I just read Baxter's Traces and can at least marginally recommend that if you're interested. I'll be reading The Time Ships for my next Baxter and then, at long last, will get into the second Xeelee set. I've read some of the stories from Resplendent and they are some of the best things I've read - "Silver Ghost", "The Cold Sink", "On the Orion Line", etc. Just really great stuff.

I'm sure I'll get to those two other Xeelee books, though probably after Ring (seeing as I have it staring at me in my TBR - also Vacuum Diagrams is sitting right below it, and some of the stories there look very interesting).

That second series of Xeelee books looks pretty fun. The first book in the series didn't seem all that exciting but the other two definitely do, and Resplendent looks like it has some great stuff in it. Are all the Xeelee novellas collected in Resplendent?
 
I'm sure I'll get to those two other Xeelee books, though probably after Ring (seeing as I have it staring at me in my TBR - also Vacuum Diagrams is sitting right below it, and some of the stories there look very interesting).

That second series of Xeelee books looks pretty fun. The first book in the series didn't seem all that exciting but the other two definitely do, and Resplendent looks like it has some great stuff in it. Are all the Xeelee novellas collected in Resplendent?

I read a couple of the Xeelee books back in the 90s when I used to read his stories in interzone. Need to find my own copies to re-read them.
 
...also Vacuum Diagrams is sitting right below it, and some of the stories there look very interesting).

Yeah, I had unrealistically high expectations for Vacuum Diagrams, expecting it to be one of the greatest books ever or something and it didn't really live up to all that, but it's still very good.

...Resplendent looks like it has some great stuff in it. Are all the Xeelee novellas collected in Resplendent?

I know it includes several and, while I could be wrong, my understanding is that it (along with Vacuum Diagrams, of course) is complete up to about the time of publication but he's written a couple-three newer pieces that aren't in a Xeelee collection yet.
 
Soooo, this is exciting. Finally finished Giovanni's Room! (Poor Giovanni, where's the sobbing smiley?) and now just picked up The Alchemist of Souls by uh... I forget. ;)
 
Soooo, this is exciting. Finally finished Giovanni's Room! (Poor Giovanni, where's the sobbing smiley?) and now just picked up The Alchemist of Souls by uh... I forget. ;)

My next book there mouse! Its been sat on my shelf since the summer but it is next in line!
 
Ooh. Bet you finish it first! I take forever to read a book.
 
On the Frankenstein discussion: I read that last year and enjoyed it, but I don't think I'd read it again. The language did take a little getting used to, but was kind of a nice change and really made you pay attention to the writing. I thought the issues discussed were pretty interesting. I picked it up because once in awhile I like to pick up books from the '1001 Books You Must Read Before You Die' list. I've only read 22 so far, so I'm going to guess I won't make it through it. :)

I finished The Dressmaker by Kate Alcott yesterday. I was looking for some historical fiction with a bit of romance in it, and I thought this would fit the bill but I was greatly disappointed. It had the potential to be a good story with some suspense, but the writing was not good and the story just didn't conjure up any emotion for me; I just didn't care what happened to anybody. If anyone has any suggestions for what I was looking for send them my way, because this book was certainly lacking.

Now I'm going to pick up How it Began by Chris Impey which is a non-fiction book. He is coming to a book festival we are having next month so I wanted to read it before attending. Although I am most excited to see Patrick Rothfuss, who will be attending this year!
 
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