Important info re. emails to John Jarrold...

Hi Leisha,

Thank you for taking the time to respond to my query and yes its nice to meet you too!
It puts my mind at rest, as I'm expecting John's comments back next Friday - that's when he's promised them. I know my writing needs to improve, but still its a little embarrassing sending my ms to someone with such kudos!

I will certainly consider Teresa if I ever feel this ms can go anywhere! Are you still writing?

thanks again
 
Don't be embarrassed - that's what editors are there for, and John likes to help authors. Helping young authors grow means he'll see more published authors in the future. :)

And yes, I'm still writing! I'm writing a new version of that same book John critiqued, actually. Hopefully I'm making it bigger and better, with lots of new ideas and a new main character. We'll see!

Keep at it, that's the key. Don't be embarrassed or put off. :)
 
Well I would definitely recommend John for his editing services! He's very professional, polite and straight talking. He pointed out all my writing errors and 'tics' which is very helpful. Of course I now feel like I need him to check it again once I've made all the corrections. But not sure I should spend out the money, its a difficult call!

Will definitely keep at it though! :)
 
So I emailed John, had the usual 'please nudge me in 2 weeks' response, send a follow-up two weeks later, and I've still had nothing some weeks further on. Anyone else have this? Might it be another email problem?
 
So I emailed John, had the usual 'please nudge me in 2 weeks' response, send a follow-up two weeks later, and I've still had nothing some weeks further on. Anyone else have this? Might it be another email problem?

John's website indicates he's away at the moment (I suspect at Worldcon), and will be dealing with all his e-mails after he gets back on the 7th. I haven't heard back from him yet either, but I wouldn't worry about it for at least another few weeks - I figure I know he got the submission, so that's the important thing! :)
 
John's website indicates he's away at the moment (I suspect at Worldcon), and will be dealing with all his e-mails after he gets back on the 7th. I haven't heard back from him yet either, but I wouldn't worry about it for at least another few weeks - I figure I know he got the submission, so that's the important thing! :)

John's currently in New Orleans (his second home). No doubt he'll catch up with things on his return.
 
Hi xagarath,

I don't know if this helps, but John's at WorldCon and visiting New Orleans, so he's been away for a week already. Hopefully he'll have your email when he gets back...

Sorry I can't be of more help!

Edit: I should check the thread first before composing a reply to the notification email I received. :rolleyes: Looks like I'm too slow.
 
Hi all, I would just like to thank you for the alternative email address and to assure you that I am not grabbing it and running. I am new to this forum but am already discovering that there is a wealth of knowledge and resources on here for the aspiring author, as well as very friendly people that I am looking forward to getting to know.

I will be staying put!
 
Wow! I love your avatar, Sunseal! (And what a graceful name!) Welcome to the Chrons. I'm glad you've decided to stick around - everyone's supportive here, so don't be intimidated. :)


And lauren - the Last Unicorn!!! I loved that video as a kid! I watched it dozens of times.
 
Hi guys, I too am in a newbie position of having emailed my prequel to JJ with my MS to be sent later in the year. I have to admit I put it off for a while as I assumed he wouldn't be interested in little ol' me. I'm waiting to hear back regarding his comments over the next few days. I'm petrified, actually. So Lauren, it's reassuring to know I'm not the only one that was a bit intimidated by his reputation!

BTW, I cried watching the Last Unicorn when I was little. I adore that film and credit it as one of those fantastic childhood films/books/animations that sparked my creative juices.
 
Hello, DaCosta! Welcome.

Good luck with your prequel. Did you mean you've sent it off for editing, or as a submission? Good luck either way! I remember being nervous all those years ago when I contacted John, but I wasn't so much nervous about him as nervous about how my writing was. Just remember that John, like any agent or publisher, is a person like you or me - and he's very approachable. I don't think it's ever a case of "X wouldn't be interested in lil' ol' me"; agents love books and it's their job to nurture and discover authors. We just have to keep going until we're good enough to join the ranks of published authors! :)


And YES! [!!!SPOILER ALERT!!!] TBH, I could have cried when the unicorn turned into a human! I remember shouting at the TV, telling "Amalthia" she shouldn't become a human and fall in love! :D The animation was just so endearing, and I remember being in awe of how beautiful the unicorn was. Oh! And that opening song...!!! (I sort of, um, have that song on my PC. :eek:)
 
Also, wasn't that old crone with her harpey terrifying!

Ooh, and the drama of the red bull! All those unicorns in the breakers! Gives me shivers just thinking about it. :)

I wonder what I'd think of it if I watched it today - not seen it for years.

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I sent JJ my work for editing. I know it's going to come back with a lot of work to do and am worried whether I can actually write! I started on this journey just wanting to get the story out there, but it's become more important than ever to get it right BEFORE it gets out there. I have a lot of respect for authors that achieve a good book at the end of it all. I know getting the editing right is a big step towards this goal, but I never expected it to matter so much to me.

Edit: going to google that song now ;)
 
Oh the film's still brilliant - its my favourite animated film. Actually just thinking of the 'I'm alive' song makes me weepy! And I ..um .. kinda know all the words too! The film's on U tube if you want to see it! I also recently bought the graphic novel its beautifully illustrated, and has scenes not in the film. I've read the book too, very poetic and whimsical! Something I'm trying to do more of in my writing! :)

There is a follow up book to the Last Unicorn, I've never read it but I believe Smendrik and Molly are in it. Prince Lear is an old man (not sure why he's old when the other two aren't) and he meets with the unicorn one last time before he promptly dies!

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JJ is really encouraging! He really improved my confidence in writing! Posting snippets on the critique board here is good, but you do feel a little bombarded by all the nit picking as your work is slowly dissected. So when you're feeling a little overwhelmed by it all its nice to fall back on 'JJ didn't moan about all that stuff'! :)
 
I've still had no reply after a nudge and another fortnight. Anyone else have better luck? Am I overthinking?
 
I've still had no reply after a nudge and another fortnight. Anyone else have better luck? Am I overthinking?

I really wouldn't worry at this point - I haven't heard yet either but John's only been back from holidays for a week, and things that need sorting out for existing clients and his editing business would probably be taking priority over submissions.

Judging from our respective posts earlier in this thread, it looks like I would have submitted about a week before you, so if it helps I'll post back here when I get a response - that should give you a (very rough) idea of when yours might be coming up on John's schedule.

And on a separate note, it looks like I'm going to have to give The Last Unicorn a watch!
 
John's been busy and had to go to London, but he's settling down to a week of editing and reading submissions, so he should get back to you soon. :)

JJ is really encouraging! He really improved my confidence in writing! Posting snippets on the critique board here is good, but you do feel a little bombarded by all the nit picking as your work is slowly dissected. So when you're feeling a little overwhelmed by it all its nice to fall back on 'JJ didn't moan about all that stuff'!

I don't want to rain on your parade, because by the sounds of it John gave you praise (well done!), but you have to remember that John doesn't point out everything that needs attention; a manuscript is a big job, often with much to fix, so he gives general comments and highlights common errors*. When you post work here, we look at only what's posted and can therefore go into a much deeper analysis. However, I do believe that critiquers can sometimes go into too much detail because, when a piece is submitted, it's their job to hunt for problems and highlight every little niggle they see. Unfortunately, a casual reader may not notice half of these - and maybe even rightly so. Critiquing small excerpts can be a good thing (and is, in general, if you have reliable critiquers), but it can also lead to over-analysis and misunderstanding, since the piece is taken out of context and people can't see the flow and pace of the whole. For example, what some may say is "too much telling" might be fine if it's a paragraph linking action scenes. See? You have to be smart in deciding which comments to apply...

I've heard that Teresa Edgerton (website link somewhere in this thread) goes into the deeper kind of critique - sentence flow, pacing, characterisation, word choice, etc. - if you want that.




*Indeed. I've known people who pay for an edit by John, then fix everything and pay for another edit, so they can see their other mistakes. And on and on...

I started on this journey just wanting to get the story out there, but it's become more important than ever to get it right BEFORE it gets out there. I have a lot of respect for authors that achieve a good book at the end of it all. I know getting the editing right is a big step towards this goal, but I never expected it to matter so much to me.
That's the right attitude! :) You're in no rush. Producing something great takes time and skill.





As for the Last Unicorn - heh, I watched the opening theme song on Youtube yesterday. Such a different experience, now I'm older! Still found myself singing along, though. :D Christopher Lee and Angela Lansbury - I'd forgotten they were in it! So cheesy but great, and sad, and scary...
 
I've read both Teresa's and John's crits of a couple of different pieces. Neither does a line edit, and rightly so as it would be a massive job, but both will point out if there is anything very clunky about the writing. John's are very focused on the industry and he's fantastic for pointing out the things that make it marketable, and places you'll lose a reader and what not.

Teresa's are, to my mind, different again, and very much in tune with what the writer is trying to achieve. I found her notes in the manuscript, the line edit aspect, if you like, less useful that the summary document provided (even though it was shorter.) I return to that document every time I've finished something new and use it as a checklist that I can carry from book to book.

I found the process, as a whole, very encouraging. I have found crits, as a whole positive, but there have been times when I've winced and needed cake. I've had three crits that knocked my confidence, badly, and it's important when those come that you have people you can rely on and ask.

In fact, one of those crits was on a different website to here, and I was able to come back to the writing group and say, I don't understand this, am I doing too much telling (as was claimed in this case) and get feedback that I trusted.
 

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