Defiance (SyFy)

Another stonking episode, kinda caught a wild west feel that I thought they were striving for and is becoming more and more evident as time goes on. The war criminal's execution was unexpected to me to say the least! Interesting the artifact seems to be gaining some influence of the younger sibling, yeah this is shaping up nicely I think.
 
Ice fyre said:
Another stonking episode, kinda caught a wild west feel that I thought they were striving for and is becoming more and more evident as time goes on. The war criminal's execution was unexpected to me to say the least! Interesting the artifact seems to be gaining some influence of the younger sibling, yeah this is shaping up nicely I think.
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Stonking meaning good? I like some eps and then the next is not half as good. The trouble with this series is the bigger storyline of the season isnt as well done as the episodic eps like this last one. They dont make me care about artifacts, the old mayor's plan for Defiance etc
 
I am almost through with the long pilot on Hulu. Not so bad, really. Yes, ST:TNG had a really bad first season (the pilot was awful, and the first few episodes were gimmicky).

I am watching most of my SFF TV on streaming services (Hulu and Netflix), so I have a different viewing experience than week by week. There are just some 'filler' episodes that have little to do with the main plot of the series; as a series develops these can be skipped without losing too much. It's just the nature of having to create thirteen to twenty hours of programming a year.

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Back to Defiance: I enjoyed the pilot. The opening scene with our two MCs singing Johnny Cash together was a nice touch IMHO, then on to their reason for being out there. The terraforming is a nice bit of worldbuilding, but heck most of the first hour was worldbuilding one way or another: the ark falling from the sky and then exploring it, and when do they arrive in town? On the holiday celebrating Human-Votan peace! What a coincidence. :p I'm going to stay tuned and see where this goes. :)
 
Not much discussion on this show in recent months. Now that the season finale is done, it seems there will be lots of new wrinkles next year. Just about everything has been left hanging. I just downloaded the Kindle Ebook. I'm not sure it adds much to the experience. I'll look at it more thoroughly later.
 
Saw the finale this morning on Hulu. Getting a bit tight over the Earth Republic. Not one cliffhanger but a whole bunch of little ones. House Tarr is not looking so good. And then there's Irisa. Looks like the writers finally remembered what was going on in the pilot. :)
 
After a more thorough look at the Defiance ebook, I have to say that it would possibly appeal to the dedicated gamer, but not to those just watching the series (like me).
 
I've watched several episodes of Defiance, hoping the show would “grow on me,” but I had to give up the effort.

I just couldn't bring myself to like the characters or be drawn into their relationships. One alien species (how about the Castithans?), instead of a whole Babylon 5-like assemblage, would have been sufficient to provide plot conflict. The Irathients, particularly their outlandishly costumed “Spirit Riders,” are an insult to Native Americans.

Pairing the television series with a video game may, as the producers claim, add richness to the overall Defiance experience. I am not a game-player, so I wouldn't know.

Defiance may share a little DNA with Battlestar Galactica in composer Bear McCreary and some of its production staff, but Defiance is, by no stretch of the imagination, in the same league as Battlestar Galactica.
 
The season end worked for me, but a lot of the episodes were pure schtako. Every TV series has *filler* episodes that don't advance the overall plot all that much, but Defiance stuck out in this regard.

I agree the what seven alien races is too much. I like Irisa and sort of care what happens to her and Nolan. But the Iraths don't work for me either: though I understand the need for a low-level threat just outside the town to have around for some minor plots. But they could just be part of one alien race, right?
 
Daisy Boo, you should enjoy it. A mix of Firefly, Alien Nation and a hint of Star Trek, well with multiple alien races living in harmony. The SFX is mediocre but I have seen worse on other shows like Terra Nova. We have only had the first 2 episodes here but the story picks up nicely from 2 looks like. I just loved the scene when the main character got "startled" at the poker table. You will see what i mean.
 
biodroid said:
A mix of Firefly, Alien Nation and a hint of Star Trek, well with multiple alien races living in harmony
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Maybe that's the reason I can't get into the series. By injecting elements from so many other popular scifi shows in an attempt to appeal to a broad base of fans, they are actually watering Defiance down into something that has no distinctive taste of its own.
 
I must say, this is by far one of my favourite series. For being a SyFy television show, I was a little dubious, they have recently brought out some failed series, but it is incredible. I think it helps that a lot of the same people involved with Battlestar Galactica and other popular series right now (like Game of Thrones) have come together on this and you can see the passion of the cast and crew alike. I know it's filmed in Toronto here, but not sure whereabouts, it must be filmed somewhere out in the boonies. You occasionally see some of the actors downtown and they are all very cordial and welcoming. It is nice to see that they chose some lesser known or newbie actors to fill the roles. overall, great show and I look forward to the series premiere.
 
Defiance is a show that is finally not cut from the mold. Defiance is a show that does a little world building, has an interesting alien invasion story(not some DESTROY ALL HUMANS story that is constantly seen in alien invasion stories), and has bright an interesting characters.

I think if this show picks up next season it might gain its own culture. The show already had online followers before syfy put it on screen. I have high hope for Defiance.
 
We've enjoyed it so far. It's about the closest we have to a "spaceships and aliens" show at the mo, so I'm looking forward to the next season and seeing where they take things.
 
markpud said:
So what do people think of the season 2 finale?
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I thought it was fine, considering that closure of some issues seems to have occurred with the inevitable "cliff-hanger" parts still there to keep us looking ahead to next year.
 
I do find the show engaging almost despite itself.. the Stama's are great characters that do a decent job of portraying an alien culture, albeit one not too dissimilar to our own.

My main issue with the 2 part finale was the terrible CGI ...

during the destruction of New York.. the collapsing buildings and fleeing onlookers were out of a 90s computer game!

I've not played the Defiance game but perhaps that stuff was lifted straight from that?
 
As season finales go , I was impressed, I hope we get a 3rd season.
 
I have a question for Defiance folks. I watched the first season but have not seen anything since - if I start watching it again at the start of the third (if there is one), will I be utterly confused and annoyed?
 
Michael Colton said:
I have a question for Defiance folks. I watched the first season but have not seen anything since - if I start watching it again at the start of the third (if there is one), will I be utterly confused and annoyed?
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I would recommend seeing the first season first.
 
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