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However, I've decided not to mess with things I cannot comprehend. Such as? You name it: artificial gravity, teleportation, force shields...

I've put FTL there only after I've read the Alcubierre's work about it.

We discussed this a few months back on the forums. It needs negative mass to work*, although it now needs much less negative mass than we thought.

But still negative mass is something we're not sure can possibly exist. So if you can't comprehend that, then I'd guess you'll have to throw out Alcubierre drives :)


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* I believe Alcubierre hypothesised that the Casimir vacuum effect could fulfill the negative mass role for his drive...however my guess is that he was clutching a bit a straws, just to find something.

P.S. Following your discussion on Highland regiments, and being Scottish as well, I'd go with The Ace's suggestion of the Black Watch.
 
We discussed this a few months back on the forums. It needs negative mass to work*, although it now needs much less negative mass than we thought.

But still negative mass is something we're not sure can possibly exist. So if you can't comprehend that, then I'd guess you'll have to throw out Alcubierre drives :)

And I liked the discussion in Titanium Physicist.
Good to have open minded people around. I'd like to use the term benders to describe the devices and superluminal to describe the flight or cruise. How does that sound?

P.S. Following your discussion on Highland regiments, and being Scottish as well, I'd go with The Ace's suggestion of the Black Watch.

It's good that I do not intend to use them in first story. I'd like to have a time to think.
 
And I liked the discussion in Titanium Physicist.
Good to have open minded people around. I'd like to use the term benders to describe the devices and superluminal to describe the flight or cruise. How does that sound?

I can see both working,

benders - I assume the machinery 'folds' spacetime to make the ship travel...

...but also be aware bender is the alcoholic, wise-cracking robot in Futurama that steals everything, so it may give people a strange image of the innards of your ship. :D

Superluminal I like and is a nice alternative to FTL or hyperdrive.
 
I can see both working,

benders - I assume the machinery 'folds' spacetime to make the ship travel...

...but also be aware bender is the alcoholic, wise-cracking robot in Futurama that steals everything, so it may give people a strange image of the innards of your ship. :D

But this is also one character in Russian literature, a very interesting one.

Superluminal I like and is a nice alternative to FTL or hyperdrive.

It also sounds more beautiful.

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Yes, but in a space based fleet, all infantry in an assaulting army would operate this way, making the rapid reaction force idea effectively pointless.

This is why I suggest drop pods as opposed to drop ships, ten times as dangerous but get you there ten times faster, allowing you to be "drop troop" and lord it over the regular grunts.

I'm not sure I agree with you. I much doubt that an entire army would land by means of drop capsules or high-survivability drop ships. I suspect that what would probably happen is that the initial force would have the job of knocking out orbital defenses; the main force would arrive in bigger transports. In much the same way, Marines (and such units as the US Rangers and the like) land first in helicopters (these days); the main bulk of the Army lands by ship. (In RL) Which obviously takes much longer.
 
Yes, but in a space based fleet, all infantry in an assaulting army would operate this way, making the rapid reaction force idea effectively pointless.

This is why I suggest drop pods as opposed to drop ships, ten times as dangerous but get you there ten times faster, allowing you to be "drop troop" and lord it over the regular grunts.

I think "drop pod" and "drop ship" are really just semantic arguments and technical details. The point is you're talking about troops infiltrating enemy orbital defences and rapidly entering the atmosphere to land at specific target sites and immediately assault the enemy.

The point is, only the specialist forces actually do the entry assaulting. Their job is to secure entry points for the remainder of your force, who come in safely, and only entered combat once deployed to the front lines.

Whether you're talking D-Day, the invasion of Afghanistan, or the assault on Beta Centurion VI; the general process is likely to be the same:

1. Surveillance
You check out the target area, assess the enemy's positions, and determine an assault plan.
D-Day: Aerial overflights, Special Forces, French Resistance
Afghanistan: Special Forces, Satellites, Aerial overflights
BCVI: Deep-space scanners, Satellites, drones

2. Assault
A small portion of your force, specially trained and equipped, enters the theatre of operations under contact with the enemy, destroying entry-point enemy positions and securing a beachhead for follow-up forces.
D-Day: Beach landing forces, paratroopers, glider-borne troops
Afghanistan: Helicopter assault, paratroopers
BCVI: Dropship/Drop pod assault

3. Invasion
The follow up force exploits the secure beach head to move large volumes of equipment and personnel into theatre, at which point post-beach head operations can begin.
D-Day: Mulberry harbours deployed to Omaha and Gold beaches, capture of Cherbourg, establishment of airfields
Afghanistan: establishment of Camp Rhino, capture of Bagram and Kandahar airfields, establishment of supply routes overland through Pakistan
BCVI: Deployment of in-orbit space docks, surface shuttle ports

There's no way the Allies could have deployed all of the troops needed in France via landing craft or parachute, there's no way ISAF could have deployed all the forces needed in Afghanistan by helicopter, and there's no way a future force could deploy all the forces needed to capture an entire planet by drop ship.

The vast majority of your forces in a space scenario would be deployed into theatre on huge interstellar transports that can't enter the atmosphere, but instead dock at space ports where men and supplies are then transferred to surface shuttles.
 
I think "drop pod" and "drop ship" are really just semantic arguments and technical details. The point is you're talking about troops infiltrating enemy orbital defences and rapidly entering the atmosphere to land at specific target sites and immediately assault the enemy.

It is not a semantic argument. A drop ship has a pilot, is slower and more vulnerable to incoming fire, with probably a larger troop capacity for second wave forces. Comparing it to a helicopter, you could not land it on top of an objective it wouldn't last a second. They are normally armed to some extent to lay down covering fire in the vulnerable moment when dropping their troops. The issue is getting past anti air defences which the drop pod excels at.

A drop pod fills the parachute's role in scifi very well. It has limited manoeuvre ability, is more than likely disposable and comes in very fast, usually used by shock troops in order to take high risk objectives very rapidly. They are usually depicted as having an extremely fast deployment method such as explosive bolt hatches or simply disintegrating before impact (this works well with fully armoured troops)

You could not achieve the same effect on target with the two different pieces of equipment, they would be used by different types of troops.

Hence my earlier comment about drop troops filling a paratrooper role in scifi.
A perfect example is ODSTs in Halo. While not the best scifi world, it illustrates the differing tactical considerations between the kit.
 
It is not a semantic argument. A drop ship has a pilot, is slower and more vulnerable to incoming fire, with probably a larger troop capacity for second wave forces.

It's a semantic argument because neither "dropships" nor "drop pods" actually exist. Since we're talking about an entirely fictional machine, an author can call it whatever they want, and assign to it whatever attributes they like.
 
Pointing out that something on a scifi forum doesn't exist is an exercise in futility.
It's fun to debate these things.
 

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