Outlander

I shall wait patiently for 6 long months.... :(

I will wait til after the show concludes before picking up the books though, so I can enjoy the TV adaptation to it's conclusion unspoiled.
 
markpud said:
I shall wait patiently for 6 long months.... :(

I will wait til after the show concludes before picking up the books though, so I can enjoy the TV adaptation to it's conclusion unspoiled.
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Well, they have made quite a few changes from the books, so it wouldn't be too spoiler-y.

The TV series storyline follows the book storyline fairly faithfully but adds a whole new dimension to the story because of the choices Ron D. Moore and his merry band of writers made during the adaptation process to make the story work for television.

Also, it's quite ROTTEN for Starz to make us all wait for 6 months :/
 
There'll always be some differences when a book is adapted. I've gone both ways with shows like this and GOT that I've not read the source, whereas with Walking Dead I'm right up-to-date on the Novels. It gives a different perspective either way - GOT has given some surprises to the book readers, but the non-readers have been blown away by GRRM's ruthlessness!
 
Why on earth they are making viewers wait 6 months for part two of season one is idiotic. They might as well call it season two. I love the series. At least 6 months give me time to read the book.
 
The second half of OUTLANDER will be kicking off on 4th April 2015.

Not long now til we see what happens - Jamie Fraser has crouched at that window with his gun for long enough!
 
The far too long delayed return of this series will plug the hole in my Saturday night DVR to-do list left by the end of the Black Sails season. Probably no coincidence in the Starz master plan.
 
WOOHOO!

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I just saw the new ep and it was a real good one. Fresh take seeing from Jamie's POV. I enjoyed the clash of Jame's times,culture,traditions with the spoiled modern POV of Claire.
 
Great to be back!! Spoilers for the mid-season premiere:

The raid on Fort William, however improbable was good fun! Really think he should have killed Randall while he had the chance though...

The spousal abuse scene (that's what it is, by modern standards, even by 1940's standards) was hard to watch, I think they did a reasonable job of explaining his thought process although I'm not a fan of the voice overs in general. He's a man of his times, and yet the modern audience cannot tolerate such behaviour and Claire's reactions were well portrayed. I don't think it's fair to call her spoiled in the context of being beaten and not liking it..
 
markpud said:
Great to be back!! Spoilers for the mid-season premiere:

The raid on Fort William, however improbable was good fun! Really think he should have killed Randall while he had the chance though...

The spousal abuse scene (that's what it is, by modern standards, even by 1940's standards) was hard to watch, I think they did a reasonable job of explaining his thought process although I'm not a fan of the voice overs in general. He's a man of his times, and yet the modern audience cannot tolerate such behaviour and Claire's reactions were well portrayed. I don't think it's fair to call her spoiled in the context of being beaten and not liking it..
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Frankly the modern fans reaction to that scene annoy me alot for several reasons.
First i want to say i understand Claire's modern woman reactions and she isnt spoiled for being shocked that happens.

However the fan reactions, getting angry, finding it hard to watch are silly to me. Its hard to watch if you see it from Claire POV. But a logical,historical, human history POV Claire deserve worse than that. Like Jaime said if she was a man she would get killed or worse. Its much more barbarical times, when they cut peoples head off publically. Closer to times of burning witches, Henry VIII killings his wifes for fun. Its easy to watch for me from that historical POV. Frankly Jaime is a saint, million miles ahead of his time for not wanting to hurt his wife like that.

Beyond stupid that recappers, reviewers call Jamie an abuser, wife beater like he was a violent modern man who enjoyed that. He punished her like everyone was punished in his times. You cant compare to sick modern men who beat their wifes.
 
I'll try to clarify myself a little.. I did mean it was hard to watch from Claire's POV, and also from my own. Not because the scene was out of context historically, but it was out of her context and, out of mine. I do agree that Jaime is highly open-minded to his new wife's strnage behaviour, but in this case he had no choice or risk the wrath of the clan.

But finding something hard to watch doesn't mean I'm not enjoying the show, or the episode. Heck I love Walking Dead and Game of Thrones where much worse things occur!!
 
markpud said:
I'll try to clarify myself a little.. I did mean it was hard to watch from Claire's POV, and also from my own. Not because the scene was out of context historically, but it was out of her context and, out of mine. I do agree that Jaime is highly open-minded to his new wife's strnage behaviour, but in this case he had no choice or risk the wrath of the clan.

But finding something hard to watch doesn't mean I'm not enjoying the show, or the episode. Heck I love Walking Dead and Game of Thrones where much worse things occur!!
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No i didnt mean your reaction because it being hard to watch means you are enjoying it, you care about the characters. It was hard to watch for me too emotionally because Claire is our heroine.

I meant the overall reaction by other fans, reviewers has been Jaime is horrible for what he did and not understanding he had to follow the law of his clan, the tradition,law of his times. You cant remove Jamie, what he had to do from mid 1700s to 2015. Thats silly.
 
Whenever I time travel, I have one very strict rule: No trips to the past! That's the only problem I have with this series, which is otherwise excellent in all respects.

If the course of time can be altered by the flapping of a single butterfly's wings, and I take this element of chaos theory to be self-evidently true, imagine the immense timeline havoc that can be wreaked by Claire traveling to 1743 Scotland and interacting with the ancestor of her 1945 husband.

Jaime said he passed on killing Black Jack, which I expected him to do without hesitation, because Jack was unarmed. Had he done so, it would be highly unlikely that Claire's 20th century husband would have existed, they would not have taken the trip to Scotland, and Claire would not have been sent back in time by the magical stones.

So, what would that do to her presence in 18th century Scotland? Poof? What would it have meant for the present? No PGA? Who knows?

If Black Jack had succeed in having his way with Claire, which he has twice attempted, Claire might be put in the position of being her 1945 husband's great-great-great-great grandmother. Yikes and ugh!

So, all you time travelers out there, stay out of the past! Make your devices Wayforward, not Wayback machines. Visit the future all you want. Check out those winning lottery numbers; although you should make that count, because it's unlikely that you would get away with it twice.
 
Big reveal!

Geillius is/was a time traveler too, hailing from 1968!

That knowledge had barely hit the fan before Geillius was heading, as she put it, to a f*****g barbecue as a confessed witch. I can only hope that Dougal followed Jamie's example and came riding to the rescue before the eager-beaver villagers lit the bonfire.

I really wanted to know how she got there – more mischief from the magic stones? old-fashioned, H.G. Wells-style time machine? DeLorean? How long had she been there? Why did she decide to dabble in the dark arts, considering how the folks of the time felt about witchcraft?

Claire's apparent choice to remain with Jamie rather than return to 1945 was touching. Or were the stones just “offline” when she made the attempt?
 
Season 3 should return in September. I wish they could accelarate the production.

Outlander season 3 is officially happening! Starz picked up Outlander with showrunner Ronald D. Moore for seasons 3 and 4, which will adapt Gabaldon's Voyager and Drums of Autumn novels, respectively.

The show has just started production in South Africa, after several months of filming Outlander Season 3 in Scotland.
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Outlander Season 3 Release Date, Trailer, Cast
 
markpud said:
I agree this was a great episode. Although as an Englishman I take issue with the massively stereotypical portrayal of the English officers. But this is a prevailing view, and it's entirely possible that a proportion of English officers were snobbish a-holes given this is the portrayal shown over and over again - no smoke without fire?!

Are all English/British officers so posh that they're oblivious to the realities of life? Hmmm
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I don't watch the series once I saw it veering from the books and realized that Ron Moore refuses to read the books for some bizarre reason. That being said, the books don't necessarily portray all the officers that way and the Lord John books (the young boy that Jamie captures but allows to live in the second book) but now all grown up and having adventures of his own definitely shows a different side to the British military officers.
 
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