"Don't Attack Reviewers"

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Surely a blogger should be as open to comments as any other author? Being attacked is not pleasant. One of the first pieces I ever posted online was my detectives Joe and Tim. Naively, I had them literally coming out of a closet in the opening scene (the suggestion they had been having a fling in the cleaning cupboard at work).... some of the comments I received about were not exactly constructive. I'm not sure if I should have responded or not, but I was naive and did.

This comment by Susan under the blog sums up my feelings very well. Aaronvitch perhaps shouldn't have commented but as a reader I like listening to authors comment and they are the ultimate canon expert. It rather supports my view when I was doing English Literature that if any of the authors were listening to us discuss their works they would probably be wetting themselves laughing:

Ana, I’ve read the whole exchange between everyone and even tweets outside your blog. I’m compelled to side with readers who would welcome interaction of reviewer and author. Both add to the insight to a book I’m about to read or have read. Dialogue is the name of the game. I’ve read your blog and have taken your advice on books to read. If you don’t want interaction I suggest you adjust your settings accordingly or post a big red STOP sign for authors. An author might find it prudent NOT to answer to criticism and that’s fine. In your case, I found the author wanting to open a dialogue as compliment to your hard work. Your rebuff was too quick. I can relate to this. We often become defensive when our work is questioned and an author understands this well.
In my opinion, it is sad to cut dialogue off at the knees in an avenue where the written/spoken word is king. Without an author, book reviews wouldn’t be needed and without book reviewer, readers might miss an interesting book by a new/old author. Both should exist in this Internet world with respect.
Yes, it’s only my opinion.
Keep on reading!



What I object to is authors of blogs who give negative reviews but don't seem to be able to accept them in return. Being bullied isn't pleasant but if you are online there is an off switch and lots of options to halt it. Segregation is never a good thing but it is accepted in the writing community bloggers vs authors etc I found it very interesting that Ana went on to do exactly what she accused Aaronvitch of. I thought his comments were well thought out, politely written and offered insight. Had he commented on my review I'd have welcomed his insight and possibly had further questions for him. It's sad that because of this we are losing some potentially fantastic interactions with authors and readers.
 
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Yeah I think I've said enough about the issue myself. But as a final comment, it's not for me about whether a writer should have the right to respond. Yes of course he has the right. Just as I have the right to stand in the middle of the street and start ranting about the evil of the government at the top of my voice. But I won't do it, even though I may have legitimate concerns and the right to express them, simply because I know it's not going to end well for me.

Cheers, Greg.
 
So, if it's a cultural thing would the blogger have taken offence no matter what Aaronovitch said? And was there an assumption of his tone? Ie were people looking for offence and on their high horse as soon as he put his reply in? That's the only thing that makes sense to me, for the blogger to have rounded on him so thoroughly and dismissively - that offence was found where, perhaps, none was meant (or, on the other hand, perhaps he meant it exactly as it was taken. We won't know - but I tend to give the benefit of the doubt especially when, in his later exchanges, he gives his reasons for input which seem genuine enough.)

I think people carry their beliefs with them and are quick to rail against anything which challenges those beliefs and in this case it was that an author not only shouldn't input but that they absolutely should not dare to respond because the arena was somehow verbotten.

I,too, believe authors gain nothing from responding (and can become pretty ingrained and uber-defensive when they do). But I also think there was a real sense of elitism within this exchange and people were looking for offence.

And I shall follow TE's example and say that covers pretty much what I have to say in the matter.

Edit: and that I agree with Hex - attacks on the blogger are wrong, too. She was snippy. It's not a crime. I'm snippy a lot of the time.

No I don't think so. I mean, maybe she would have in any venue, but maybe not? Again, I don't believe in any objective bar for offense, though certain things can come very close to objective. In this case I think it's not at all cut and dry, though some people see it that way ("objectively" offensive or "objectively" not offensive). I understand why she got angry, but I also understand why you think it's no big deal.
 
The thing I find most distressing is the tendency that both "sides" have to dog-pile the other, and to ignore the fact that their own "side" is doing it at the same time. Thousands of comments, tweets and re-tweets. It's not dialogue or discussion, it's just vicious noise. But, of course, it's OK to do that when you're right, and the other people are just internet trolls. (For clarity: I do not think that all sides of a discussion are necessarily right, I think the that the "tactics" of internet wars are all wrong, and the self-justification is pernicious).

In this case, I think the authors'(1) perspective comes down to the "skin in the game" thing. Many internet reviewers are pseudonymous, or anonymous, which is fine, but means that there's usually no inherent consequence for bad (not "negative" but "poor") reviews. Internet sites like Strange Horizons seem to provide nothing more than a platform - i.e. no editorial oversight or feedback (or even proof reading), and GoodReads actively doesn't. Reviewers routinely do things like vote-washing on Amazon (delete your voted-down review, post it again), so... where's the comeback? It's only when a reviewer has built up a reputation that they have anything worth losing.
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The reviewers'(2) perspective is, I believe, that they're entitled to publish their views of a book, couched in whatever language they choose, without being subject to a deluge of abuse, and that they don't really try to engage with the author - they're engaging with the work, and that's really where they'd rather leave it, thanks.

I think they're both right, which is a bit awkward.
 
The exceedingly long review with the inclusion of multiple animated gif[or whatever] files is a dead giveaway that this is one of those people you should just stay away from anyway.

So this is relevant: apparently a self-published author stalked a goodreads reviewer, went to her place of work in Scotland (the writer is from London), followed her from work and was caught on camera bashing her on the head with a full bottle of wine. Story.

Maybe I'm just exhibiting some unjustified prejudice; but it seems there is some sort of cult involvement that is fueled by these people having large numbers of followers and generally they never seem to find any books they enjoy that much.

In this instance it probably is unfair because this might be the only book she really critiqued and I can understand why she might have stopped. And there are a number of books she gives reasonable star scores so it's a shame that she had to endure the stalking.

I've always viewed the reviews with a long list of comments to be free advertisement for the book-albeit negative advertisement in this case.
 
So this is relevant: apparently a self-published author stalked a goodreads reviewer, went to her place of work in Scotland (the writer is from London), followed her from work and was caught on camera bashing her on the head with a full bottle of wine. Story.
Even if that author hadn't gone that far, he's obviously a risk to women (click** on the link to the post on his self-styled, and utterly self-deluded, "benevolent" stalking***). I think the technical term for what he is may very well be Nut Job.


** - Or click here.

*** - When a person includes the word stalking in the definition of what they're doing, it's a clue that they're a stalker.
 
I'm sure you can call on J-WO if Requires Hate starts making a fuss.


I'd always imagined that Requires Hate was an imagined persona**, so I was pleased to read this in the report:
I have seen evidence with my own eyes of an email she wrote to a former supporter, in which she admits that even “Benjanun Sriduangkaew” is yet another constructed identity. Frankly, I don’t know who the person behind these many constructed identities is, or if it’s even really just one person.


** - Hiding a troll with few, if any, of the traits and characteristics of the public RH.
 
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