23 months of sales stats for ebooks and print books

Yeah it seems like too high a figure to me as well. I read mostly SF and I'll certainly only be buying SF from indies and the proportion of those books (even ones recommended to me) that I just don't finish means that it's actually not a cheaper option for me; I'd say my poor results so far indicate buying indies is, for me, significantly more expensive than buying from trad publishers. Yes, I still get some duds from them, but nothing like as many.
 
What I could do with is a nice list of indie authors whose books have been read by someone with equally high standards, so at least I'd know that the author concerned knows how to tell a story. Then I only have to worry about avoiding books with too-stupid-to-live female protagonists.

Good indies do exist, though, so don't despair. I've found some, varying between "can't tell the difference between this one and a good trad-published book" and "not quite as polished as a trad book, but all the right elements are there". To be fair, I'd take good plot and characterisation over polished prose any day (although, like apple pie and ice-cream, both together is better).

Like it or not, indie publishing is the way the industry is going: with digital reading on the up, and print-on-demand technology available, it's becoming increasingly difficult to define what a publisher can provide for an author that the author cannot (with a certain amount of up-front investment) get for themselves - especially when one bears in mind that newbie trad authors don't get much in publicity from their publisher, according to what I've heard.

I don't suppose anybody knows of a list of indie SFF authors who are comparable in quality to tradpub?
 
It's not the 'net, Theophania - it's in the Writing Group forum, and you have to have at least 100 posts to access it...
 
It's not the 'net, Theophania - it's in the Writing Group forum, and you have to have at least 100 posts to access it...

Ah.

Here is a cookie. A big, triple-chocolate-chip cookie. One of the really good ones that are kind of crisp on the outside but soft on the inside. Warm. With ice cream.

And you can't have it till you've eaten all your vegetables!
 
"And you can't have it till you've eaten all your vegetables!"

There's more: it excludes posts made in the 'trivia' fora, such as The Lounge, Playrooms, etc....
 
What I could do with is a nice list of indie authors whose books have been read by someone with equally high standards, so at least I'd know that the author concerned knows how to tell a story. Then I only have to worry about avoiding books with too-stupid-to-live female protagonists.

Good indies do exist, though, so don't despair. I've found some, varying between "can't tell the difference between this one and a good trad-published book" and "not quite as polished as a trad book, but all the right elements are there". To be fair, I'd take good plot and characterisation over polished prose any day (although, like apple pie and ice-cream, both together is better).

Like it or not, indie publishing is the way the industry is going: with digital reading on the up, and print-on-demand technology available, it's becoming increasingly difficult to define what a publisher can provide for an author that the author cannot (with a certain amount of up-front investment) get for themselves - especially when one bears in mind that newbie trad authors don't get much in publicity from their publisher, according to what I've heard.

I don't suppose anybody knows of a list of indie SFF authors who are comparable in quality to tradpub?

I don't think you should have to choose in terms of quality anymore - most professional indies are just as polished as a trad book. And in terms of finding those who are good - ask on forums you're active on. Start a thread saying what you like, what quality level you're aiming for and you'll get the recs.
 
I don't think you should have to choose in terms of quality anymore - most professional indies are just as polished as a trad book.

I agree - trad certainly isn't a mark of quality, as such: I've read indies that are great and trad books that read as if they'd been edited by the work experience kid. On their first day. It's more that the bell curve of trad is a lot narrower: indies are like the little girl who had a little curl - when she was good, she was very, very good, and when she was bad, she was horrid!

Strangely, in n years of being reasonably active on internet fora, I don't think I've ever started a thread. Have to screw my courage to the sticking place for that one!
 
I suspect the indie stats are being given far too much weight - IMO there's a huge difference between someone buying a 0.99 indie book on promo, and someone spending 6.99 on a trad pub. If dataguy showed revenue figures with units, I would expect trad to dominate.
 

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