Ghostbusters (2016)

DG Jones said:
I don't understand the whole "you ruined my childhood" thing. I mean, one can always just go and watch the original, right? Or are all copies of the original going to be disappeared from history from July 15th? The mind boggles.
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This writer makes the point that anyone angered over the new movie really needs to take a look inward.
The Soft Sexism Of Hating On The New GHOSTBUSTERS
 
it made me chuckle a little, which is (obviously) good. The issue for me is not that they've switched from male to female (though why they couldn't have had a mix is beyond me) it's just the apparent laziness of it all. As an aside I do like the African/American woman character
 
REBerg said:
This writer makes the point that anyone angered over the new movie really needs to take a look inward.
The Soft Sexism Of Hating On The New GHOSTBUSTERS
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This guy makes a lot of good points, but I do want to be able to say I don't want to watch this without people thinking I'm sexist for some reason. I also didn't want to watch the new Turtles films, the only reason I've seen more than one Transformers movie is because Mrs M T likes them, and I have said the new Batman/Superman reboot was way too soon, which is also why I didn't want to see Amazing Spiderman. I don't want to see this film because I don't think it looks good, not because of the gender issues.
 
I have no interest in reboots, remakes, re-imaginings etc. If anything, I find it just a little insulting to the original movies, as though the writers/directors are saying 'Yeah, good idea, but I can do this better!'.
As with spiderman and so on, it didn't need a reboot, just a follow on. There would have been nothing wrong with this new team taking over from a retiring original team. At least then, an original plotline could have emerged.
 
It just doesn't appeal to me at all.
 
I don't know - my initial reaction was, I have to say, WTF? Why remake it with a female cast? I can understand a not exclusively male cast or even a predominantly female cast but to deliberately go for a female cast for such an 80's 'classic' struck me as 'trying too hard' just to gain column inches. I still stand by that viewpoint. That being said... I do like MM and the 2nd trailer I saw did make me chuckle (and laugh) and I may well take a punt
 
:LOL: No, but Harold Ramis was well represented by tattoos.

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Sorry, this is clearly a very big movie this week, or trying to be one through excessive hype, but I still have no interest in seeing this. I've seen the trailer at the cinema and it looks like a straight-out remake of the original film with better SFX and character's sexes reversed. It doesn't make me sexist to not see any point in that. If you want to see women in strong roles, then write some roles for women in new, fresh films that aren't derivative. I don't hold the original film in any special regard. I can hardly remember it (as was clear from my original post) and I think some people complaining don't remember it either if they are really saying that the "jokey nature disrespects the serious horror aspects of the original." I just see all the possibilities for new material to be made into new films and wonder why they continue to remake and re-imagine things. You alienate the original audience who do actually hold it up in some sacred, high regard and very rarely can you improve on originals.
 
Dave said:
You alienate the original audience who do actually hold it up in some sacred, high regard and very rarely can you improve on originals.
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I don't think the studios are going to alienate many people in this instance - I watched the original Ghostbusters with my family not too long ago, and as a special-effect movie from the 1980's it was quite badly dated.
 
Fair enough, it hasn't aged very well, but it wasn't a low budget film at the time. It was nominated for Oscars for Best Effects and Visual Effects, nominated for a Hugo award for Best Dramatic Presentation. And the song won a stack of awards. You can always tell a film that has had money spent of it by the peripheral things like music and graphics. The Ghostbusters logo is still prominent in the advertising for this film.
 
It doesn't sound like my sort of thing - that kind of intense nostalgia isn't really - but once you get past the buzzwords and name-calling the psychology of this is quite interesting. Why does having a female cast in a remake of a light, silly action/comedy ruin your childhood? Why should it? There are clearly people who genuinely and sincerely believe this to be the case. I would like to know why, because I can’t see how this belief might arise.

The standard responses make no sense: (1) the new film has retrospectively ruined the first film (demonstrable nonsense); and (2) the issue is not that there are women in the film, but that an innocent film has been hijacked by a political agenda (a narrow and suspicious distinction at best).

Anyhow, here’s an article about it all.

Message to the sexist Ghostbusters trolls: you're not the only target market that matters
 
...the Telegraph was described on the IMDb talk boards as “a well-known leftist UK rag”, which must be a first.
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:) .The amount of hate can only be explained by sexism, however, I get off the hook because I am on record here as making
comparable outcries over Clash of the Titans (2010), Total Recall (2012), Robocop (2014), Jurassic World (2015), and any number of other recent works of Hollywood nostalgia-sploitation.
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He missed Rollerball.
 
Toby Frost said:
It doesn't sound like my sort of thing - that kind of intense nostalgia isn't really - but once you get past the buzzwords and name-calling the psychology of this is quite interesting. Why does having a female cast in a remake of a light, silly action/comedy ruin your childhood? Why should it? There are clearly people who genuinely and sincerely believe this to be the case. I would like to know why, because I can’t see how this belief might arise.

The standard responses make no sense: (1) the new film has retrospectively ruined the first film (demonstrable nonsense); and (2) the issue is not that there are women in the film, but that an innocent film has been hijacked by a political agenda (a narrow and suspicious distinction at best).

Anyhow, here’s an article about it all.

Message to the sexist Ghostbusters trolls: you're not the only target market that matters
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Good article. I'll only be disappointed in the new version if it fails have me :ROFLMAO:
 
I have just come out of GHOSTBUSTERS (will take my small niece when I go see it the second time around because I just couldn't wait for her school holidays to begin) and here are my spoiler-free thoughts:

1. It is so AWESOMELY COOL AND FUNNY! I didn't know how funny Hemsworth could be - he really does send himself up :p

And @REBerg - That "don't p*** it off" selfie scene with the ghost dragon in the trailer is as funny (if not funnier) than the bit in the trailer.

2. Its feminism is encoded in its DNA in a very real and comfortable way. However, the jokes and gags are pretty much gender-neutral except for the jabs about butthurt fanboys who have been abusive about the film before it was even released.

3. HOLTZMAAAAAAANN! Kate McKinnon is, in the words of an old male friend of mine who was a doubter and is now a fan of the film: "a demented cross between Egon Spengler and Pete Venkman".

The bit in the trailer when Holtzmann licks her gun? The sequence that follows... well, let's just say I'm straight but I'd very happily make an exception for her.

4. All the original cast who are still living are in it in really organic ways and:

(a) You've gotta see Sigourney Weaver's cameo and
(b) they dedicated the movie to Harold Ramis (and he would've been SO DAMN PROUD of the film!)

5. This is the first film in ages where it surprised me so much at one point that my mouth was open and my popcorn was in my fingers like I was frozen and it took me a moment to realise it.

6. Best credits I've seen in a while and the Fall Out Boys version of the theme song totally makes sense now.

7. Be sure to stay right til the end. There's a scene you're gonna wanna see!

8. Leslie Jones' role is NOT reductionist or token - it's much better handled than Ernie Hudson's character in the original film. Her character is much more fleshed out and is possibly the sharpest one on the team when under pressure.

9. Lots of respectful nods to the original but it has its own storyline (i.e. despite what the trailers indicate, it is NOT a blow-by-blow remake or rehash of the original storyline).

@ratsy - You were right: Paul Feig films tend to have crappy trailers but the film itself is golden!
 
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