Star Trek - Discovery - 1.12: Vaulting Ambition

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I have no patience and wait until Sunday for the next episode. I looked around for some spoilers and I found a preview. They are going back. :)

 
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Alexa said:
I have no patience and wait until Sunday for the next episode. I looked around for some spoilers and I found a preview. They are going back. :)

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I'm not sure I should say this too soon in the thread, but the hell with it. Lorca is not from our universe!!!!! Those of us who guessed at it were right. I freaking loved the reveal though and it looks like he's a bit better in this universe since he is trying to overthrow the emperor and all. Though it could easily be for his own twisted desires.

Didn't know Terrans ate other aliens. Was that ever included in Mirror Universe Eps? If not, then it's another reason why I love this direction the show has taken, going deeper into the Mirror.
 
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Lorca is not from our universe!!!!! Those of us who guessed at it were right.
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Nice one. It fits him and the story absolutely correctly. I'm not saying I'm liking the Mirror Universe as it doesn't fit in the way I view the world. The MU is a god awful place, but Lorca is a wonderful rebel captain. One thing though, he doesn't seem to like rum for being a pirate. Maybe there was no grog in the mirror universe and the Empire always stayed strong by slaughtering mutineers.

So, what happened to Captain Lorca, the original from the Prime Universe? Note also that the Emperor confirmed the concept of "parallel universe!" So, is it a big stretch to go from mirror to multiverse? At the moment the other Stamets says no, because no other ones were encountered.

I guess I'm always hopeful for the Star Trek to take that extra step and go from singular to multi. This problem will arise again if they'r going to write something about that TT'ing timeline.
 
ctg said:
Nice one. It fits him and the story absolutely correctly. I'm not saying I'm liking the Mirror Universe as it doesn't fit in the way I view the world. The MU is a god awful place, but Lorca is a wonderful rebel captain. One thing though, he doesn't seem to like rum for being a pirate. Maybe there was no grog in the mirror universe and the Empire always stayed strong by slaughtering mutineers.

So, what happened to Captain Lorca, the original from the Prime Universe? Note also that the Emperor confirmed the concept of "parallel universe!" So, is it a big stretch to go from mirror to multiverse? At the moment the other Stamets says no, because no other ones were encountered.

I guess I'm always hopeful for the Star Trek to take that extra step and go from singular to multi. This problem will arise again if they'r going to write something about that TT'ing timeline.
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Stamets did allude to other universes and if Burnham gives the Emperor the Spore drive there's no doubt Terran will destroy the multiverse in the process but it looks like the spores are already doing that themselves
 
Lucky me, I have no flees indoors. This episode left me open mouth. :LOL:

I need your help regarding Tyler. I didn't catch the last comments he made after L'Rell helped him stabilize. Why did she cry so desperately ? Does this mean Tyler's personnality is stronger than Voq's ?

A dinner with kelpian meat. What a horrific moment ! I don't know how Michael managed swollowing it. :eek:

So Lorca is indeed from MU. If he gets killed in here, I'm afraid the freedom for Michael is over in PU.

Geez, I can't wait for the next episode now ! :)
 
Alexa said:
I need your help regarding Tyler. I didn't catch the last comments he made after L'Rell helped him stabilize. Why did she cry so desperately ? Does this mean Tyler's personnality is stronger than Voq's ?
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Or it could be that she took his soul into her??? I'm going with that.
 
ctg said:
So, is it a big stretch to go from mirror to multiverse?
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As Asimov says in The Gods Themselves: Any number between 1 and infinity is impossible.

Well I'm sorry to say I've had enough.
This really isn't what I want of Star Trek.
I can see why you might say that the ugliness of it all just makes it more real, but if that's the case, I was always looking for escapism and not reality.
There are some nice ideas in there, but they aren't enough to keep me with it.

Have fun with it, though, the rest of you. :)
 
I just finished watching this week's episode. Frankly, I count this one as one of the best all time shows in the Star Trek series universe! I knew the eye thingy meant something! And I'm pleased they found a way to save Tyler's character! A very well-done episode!
 
Cathbad said:
I just finished watching this week's episode. Frankly, I count this one as one of the best all time shows in the Star Trek series universe! I knew the eye thingy meant something! And I'm pleased they found a way to save Tyler's character! A very well-done episode!
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We don't know if Tyler is safe yet. We should also wait and see who goes back and how in PU.

I wouldn't go so far and proclaim the best in series universe, but it was indeed really good. ;)
 
Congrats to all who saw this coming but I just didn't see this twist. I'm totally going to go back and watch from the beginning. I don't think I'd say this is the best Star Trek ever, but it was a really good turn. Great twist...now we have to see what they do with it.
 
I'm still waiting for them to show us how they didn't really kill their gays, because turning the spore network into The Force and having Hugh's ForceSpore Ghost hanging around really ain't the same thing as not killing him in the first place.
 
After that reveal I'm going to stop trying to guess which way the show's going to turn. It's quite well written and I'm enjoying it so far.
 
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I'm still waiting for them to show us how they didn't really kill their gays, because turning the spore network into The Force and having Hugh's ForceSpore Ghost hanging around really ain't the same thing as not killing him in the first place.
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Please, I don't think they write in LGBT people so they can kill them off. Those days are over, the doctor had to go so that the plot can live. If he'd prevented Tylor from going, who knows what might have happened?
 
I mean, the showrunners literally admitted they are fully aware of bury your gays and have hit the internet hard begging us to trust them, to stick with it. Well, I'm waiting for them to deliver on this promise they've made. I don't think it's a stretch when a showrunner says "Please stick with us, I promise you it isn't what it looks like," to expect them to show you how it isn't what it looks like if you stick with them.

And while we're on the subject, there's literally no reason - when aware of that trope - not to make Stamets' husband a different person entirely from the person who "has to die for plot reasons."
 
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