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@Dan Jones - I agree with the moving forwards. Anything in Abendau will always be me playing for myself - it has sold okay but not well enough for me to expect it to build my career further. Having said that, when working with what might sell and being professional enough to push on with those (Inish 2 is the priority for next year no matter how much I look elsewhere), there has to be some room to just play. That’s really what this would be - a fun thing to play with.

But it would be a huge convergence. I doubt if Silom would be in this. Sonly and Lichio would be - but at a distance. The Roamers (shame on you :p) would be - but how much will they diverge with the character they need in place? I honestly think the story will be crazily different. Even the understanding of the Empress May change.

@The Big Peat - shove up the fence a bit there ;) :D will I continue with it - depends how much fun she is to write. I’ve never written Karia as an adult so have no idea.

And, yeah, I’ve accepted it. I might even be coming to see my unmarketability as a selling point :D
 
Hey, I just said you should do it because I need the editing next month and I figured that’s when it would be done. :p

Actually, it reminds me of something and I’m still trying to think exactly what. There is something well known that is similar in concept. Arrgh.
 
Ok ill be brutally honest as I know Jo can handle it!

I really dislike the idea as a reader, for me they wouldn't be complimentary novels, but contradictory ones. Which one is the real story you wanted to tell? < That's rhetorical but would be my line of thought.

I sort of agree with Onyx in that there would have to be some sort of hook in the story that made this relevant otherwise it almost feels like you couldn't make up your mind on the story you wanted to tell so you just told them both. I know that's not the case but that's the impression I would get as a reader.
 
TheDustyZebra said:
Hey, I just said you should do it because I need the editing next month and I figured that’s when it would be done. :p

Actually, it reminds me of something and I’m still trying to think exactly what. There is something well known that is similar in concept. Arrgh.
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Retelling 50 Shades of Grey from the fella's point of view? *ducks head and runs*
 
How different would the story be if Karia and Kare survived or even with Ealyn still around.
 
SilentRoamer said:
Ok ill be brutally honest as I know Jo can handle it!

I really dislike the idea as a reader, for me they wouldn't be complimentary novels, but contradictory ones. Which one is the real story you wanted to tell? < That's rhetorical but would be my line of thought.

I sort of agree with Onyx in that there would have to be some sort of hook in the story that made this relevant otherwise it almost feels like you couldn't make up your mind on the story you wanted to tell so you just told them both. I know that's not the case but that's the impression I would get as a reader.
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I can handle it ;) :D - and, yes, this is the big danger. (Also an impact on the sequels because the 2nd generation would be affected).

It might be one of those experiments that causes more chaos than it entertains :)

Glitch said:
How different would the story be if Karia and Kare survived or even with Ealyn still around.
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I think fairly different - but don’t know until I write it!
 
Well, it would certainly jumpstart the divergence and, I think, make that a lot easier if Karia and Ealyn survived and something happened to Kare instead, at that juncture. That sends it wildly into another direction immediately, rather than trying to shoehorn Karia into the world you built for Kare and figure out how it would be different for her. Ealyn wouldn’t have to survive forever, either. Maybe he dies getting her out of something down the road.
 
Maybe Keria grows into the tyrant and the queen repents into a savior?


Jo, are you trying to make Abendau more grrl-powered? The basic male/female dynamic with the kids, dad and antagonist reminds me of the recent conversation about Dune; Alia and Ghanima.
 
[QUOTE="Onyx, post: 2252486, member: 41233"
Jo, are you trying to make Abendau more grrl-powered? The basic male/female dynamic with the kids, dad and antagonist reminds me of the recent conversation about Dune; Alia and Ghanima.[/QUOTE]

An interesting question. I don’t think so - it was already a series with a lot of very strong female characters in it. But I suppose part of the attraction is how much a female central character would change things.
 
(And also, on that note - would I have the guts to put a female character through the sort of ordeal I shoved my poor male character into - maybe this is partly me asking questions of me as a writer)
 
Jo, Count me among those who do not care for this idea as a reader. I think it an interesting exercise from a writer's point of view. It might be what caused OSC to write Ender's Shadow. But although I think Ender's Game is one of greatest S.F. works of all time. I have no desire to read this remake, and never did. It just seemed to me to be playing with a reality I had built in my mind. I might be too conventional, but that's just who I am.
 
Parson said:
Jo, Count me among those who do not care for this idea as a reader. I think it an interesting exercise from a writer's point of view. It might be what caused OSC to write Ender's Shadow. But although I think Ender's Game is one of greatest S.F. works of all time. I have no desire to read this remake, and never did. It just seemed to me to be playing with a reality I had built in my mind. I might be too conventional, but that's just who I am.
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To be fair, Ender’s Shadow isn’t a remake but the telling of Bean’s story and it stays true to the Ender saga.

It seems I am dividing opinion :) never a bad thing :)
 
Jo Zebedee said:
To be fair, Ender’s Shadow isn’t a remake but the telling of Bean’s story and it stays true to the Ender saga.

It seems I am dividing opinion :) never a bad thing :)
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I am firmly on the fence about whether it is a good idea or not.

I think it could be good if you used the Keria story to do something strange and new - especially if the twist of fate that leaves her alive 'collapses' to end her story and put it in line with the original. "Collapse" in kind of the Schrodinger sense.

But I am less enthusiastic if you're goal is to take the same 3 chapter set up and then write a diverging set of novels that never reconnect with the originals. To the casual observer, that just sounds like you're too lazy to come up with a fresh world to build.
 
Onyx said:
I am firmly on the fence about whether it is a good idea or not.

I think it could be good if you used the Keria story to do something strange and new - especially if the twist of fate that leaves her alive 'collapses' to end her story and put it in line with the original. "Collapse" in kind of the Schrodinger sense.

But I am less enthusiastic if you're goal is to take the same 3 chapter set up and then write a diverging set of novels that never reconnect with the originals. To the casual observer, that just sounds like you're too lazy to come up with a fresh world to build.
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My difficulty in answering this is I’m not a planner. However I normally know quite quickly if my subconscious is planning anything clever or just naff :)
 
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