August 2018 Reading thread

Just begun 1421: The Year China Discovered the World.

I've only read the intro so far, but it's written by a British retired submarine commander whose expertise in charts and maps led him to conclude the Chinese performed some astounding navigational/seafaring feats decades before the most famous European explorers. A couple of decades later, the Chinese turned inward and destroyed practically all the evidence of said journeys, which is why there's not a huge amount of evidence.

[The introductory evidence that seemed most intriguing was a map including three volcanoes that were mentioned as active, or similar, but they were dormant for centuries with only a couple of eruptions between 1400-1440, thus indicating the sort of time they were likely discovered].

Anyway, early on, but it sounds very interesting.

Edited extra bit: annoyingly, I decided to do a quick check right after posting this.

There seems to be significant doubt cast upon both the evidence and author himself. What I'll probably do is put the book on ice, do a little more research and read it or not. I'm vaguely aware of a little Far Eastern history and recall that China (and Japan) did sometimes close themselves off, which is why I found the initial premise intriguing. Sadly, it may also be fictional.

Gavin Menzies - Wikipedia
 
Just begun 1421: The Year China Discovered the World.

I've only read the intro so far, but it's written by a British retired submarine commander whose expertise in charts and maps led him to conclude the Chinese performed some astounding navigational/seafaring feats decades before the most famous European explorers. A couple of decades later, the Chinese turned inward and destroyed practically all the evidence of said journeys, which is why there's not a huge amount of evidence.

[The introductory evidence that seemed most intriguing was a map including three volcanoes that were mentioned as active, or similar, but they were dormant for centuries with only a couple of eruptions between 1400-1440, thus indicating the sort of time they were likely discovered].

Anyway, early on, but it sounds very interesting.

Edited extra bit: annoyingly, I decided to do a quick check right after posting this.

There seems to be significant doubt cast upon both the evidence and author himself. What I'll probably do is put the book on ice, do a little more research and read it or not. I'm vaguely aware of a little Far Eastern history and recall that China (and Japan) did sometimes close themselves off, which is why I found the initial premise intriguing. Sadly, it may also be fictional.

Gavin Menzies - Wikipedia
Wow, I picked up on this quote from the Wiki page: 'Menzies has dismissed the experts' opinions as irrelevant,[14] stating, "The public are on my side, and they are the people who count."' Now that might be true when it comes to things like politics (although even there I'm not sure) but when it comes to fact based stuff like science, history etc. then the facts rather than the public are surely what counts.

Disappointing to pick up something that looks good and interesting and then have it torn down like that.
 
'Menzies has dismissed the experts' opinions as irrelevant,[14] stating, "The public are on my side, and they are the people who count."' Now that might be true when it comes to things like politics (although even there I'm not sure) but when it comes to fact based stuff like science, history etc. then the facts rather than the public are surely what counts.

By "count" I think he means in the sense of being prepared to give him money.
 
Vertigo, yeah, I'm rather disappointed as the introduction was rather intriguing.

I don't mind history, and I don't mind historical fiction, but this sort of thing does not sit well with me at all. Oh well. Glad I found out at this stage rather than reading the whole damned thing.
 
I’m just finishing up a weeks holiday in Northen Ontario. This is my main reading place , and I’ve made a small divot in my to-be-read shelf.
First finished was the Traitor’s Son Cycle by Miles Cameron. There are 5 books in this completed series. All interlink, though you could possibly read the first book as a standalone. They are medieval fantasy, with a heavy military slant, as the author is a reenactor. His fighting detail is exquisite, if you are into such things, as I am. The best part of the books is the Canadian slant - so many familiar environments, words, even the main faith is a thinly veiled Catholicism. The Wild (natives, animal kindoms, fairies and other races) stand off against the order and invasion of man in an ages old struggle, and as with many stories, something evil threatens them all. The stories revolve around various factions ultimately learning how to cooperate.
The magic is complex. A mixture of hermeticism and inherited powers ties in with faith and trust in a way I’ve not seen before. Cameron tackles some big ideas about our control of nature, the inevitable pull of power, and is not afraid of letting war be war on the page - many people and animals die - it is not glossed over.
The best bit was how he handled apotheosis, and tied it into the magical system. Even as a lapsed Catholic, somehow the imagery still made me smile with wonder.
I’ve seen these books described as better than ASoWaF. Just as complex, yes. A ton of characters to keep track of, yes. Gruesome, yes, but balanced with far more hope and wondrous scenes. Finished, yes!
Next read was Behind the Throne, by K.B. Wagers. It was a nice, fast read, but not much substance.
 
I abandoned my Grisham novel (it was pretty awful) and have now taken up 2 others. Factfulness by Hans Rosling, a rare non-fiction choice for me. It's been talked up by the like of Bill Gates and talks about how so many of our preconceived notions about the world are completely, objectively wrong (particularly the belief that the human condition is in any way getting worse when realistically it's getting exponentially better almost everywhere in the globe). Also working through Mother Night, the only Kurt Vonnegut "classic" I haven't read.
 
About thirty five years ago I bought a book at a jumble sale in my local town hall. I bought it on the strength of the wonderful cover and a reference to the Lord of the Rings. However, when I tried reading it I realised that it was a bit too heavy a read for me and so it ended up on my shelf with my, at the time, somewhat meagre collection.

And that's where it has stayed. Well, actually it's moved around a bit; along the shelf as my collection expanded, into a box and onto new shelves, along those, and into other boxes and back out onto new shelves, etc., etc. after numerous moves. But the point is I've never returned to it.

Until about two weeks ago - nicely culminating on the night of a blood moon.

I'm talking about The Worm Ouroborus by E.R. Eddison. It's not an easy read - a bit too many 'thees' and 'thous' for my liking and he could have held back a little on some of his descriptions. Some of sequences were finished a little quickly (particularly that involving the
second hippogriff's egg)
and some went on a little too long, the set-up is pointless and not referenced after the first twenty or so pages, and the location is ludicrous (even back when it was written I would suggest).

The ending is a little odd - to say the least. If you consider the title, it makes sense to interpret it as meaning
that everything goes back to the beginning
but that doesn't really make sense per se - better is that
another war starts up.
Although for me that is a bit unsatisfactory.

All of which sounds as though I didn't enjoy it but quite the contrary; I thought it was cracking read. The version I have is this one.

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And just to show I have a somewhat warped mind - if you consider my opening paragraph - about a year ago I also bought these:

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Which are set in the same world but without any reference to characters in the Worm Ouroborus (as far as I know).

If anyone is considering giving it a go, I would skip the introduction by Oliver Prescott as it contains some spoilers and start around twenty pages in with the line: "Yet, lo," she said, as a sweet and wild music stole on the ear, and the guests turned towards the dais, and the hangings parted, "at last, the triple lordship of Demonland!

I just wish I'd given it another try years ago...
 
Matteo, I've read The Worm Ouroboros twice, but the last time was in 1974! It's been sitting in a place where it will catch my eye for a few days now, as I'm thinking I'd like to give a third reading a try. I've had the other three books since the 1970s but haven 't read them, even so -- but I should try them too, maybe before returning to the Worm, which I expect to like the most. I relish that cover art. There were later printings with dull art, though, I'm glad to say, they never got covers by Darrell Sweet, as Lord of the Rings did -- so boredom-inducing.
 
...though, I'm glad to say, they never got covers by Darrell Sweet, as Lord of the Rings did -- so boredom-inducing.

Why did you have to say that? You must have known I would search for them to see what you were talking about.

Now that I've found them, perhaps you can now tell me how I can "unsee" them...!

Just to pay you back, I dare you to look for the Michael Herring covers.
 
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Recently finished The Wheel of Osheim by Mark Lawrence. Another epic grimdark trilogy!

Back onto horror now with The Necromancer's House by Christopher Buehlman
 
I've read John Lawlor’s “C.S.Lewis, Memories and Reflections”. Only around 130 pages long, this is a somewhat unusual memoir aimed at those with significant knowledge of Lewis’ writing (this does not include me). The author was tutored by both Lewis and Tolkien in the years just before and after WWII, and knew them well. There are 17 pages or so on Tolkien. Here’s Tolkien looking at his son Christopher’s final results (at Oxford):
Tolkien bent agonisedly before the notice board, his face contorted, the right hand clenched above his head. ‘My poor Christopher’ was all he could say, and he repeated it, a true ululatus, the unforced cry of primitive lament.”

I've also now finished Tolkien’s “The Notion Club Papers” (in "Sauron Defeated"). As others will know, this is Tolkien’s science fiction tale set within the weekly meetings of the Inklings. For me the most interesting aspect is that clearly there is much that is very personal to Tolkien’s beliefs and experience contained within the story, particularly concerning the use of the creative imagination and dreams. It is of course more difficult to tease out how much of this is central to Tolkien’s experience (probably quite a lot), and how much is Tolkien the writer at play. My interest in persevering in reading this was greatly helped by @Extollager 's link to Bruce Charlton’s blog on the thread “Interested in the Notion Club Papers” Interested in The Notion Club Papers?

I’ve also started C.S.Lewis’ “The Screwtape Letters”, because I believe this had input from Inkling suggestions. Curiously I’m finding this much less interesting/amusing than when I last read it, age thirteen or fourteen.
 
Hugh, here's my review from 2011 of a book worth getting from the library for some biographical material on Tolkien.

Tolkien by a Colleague and Friend

by Dale Nelson

Arne Zettersten worked with Tolkien on the Oxford Early English Text Society’s multi-volume edition of all seventeen manuscripts of Ancrene Wisse. The first volume appeared in 1962; it was the final major scholarly work released in his lifetime by Tolkien. Zettersten saw the project through to completion in 2000. He has written J. R. R. Tolkien’s Double Worlds and Creative Process: Language and Life, published 2011 by Palgrave Macmillan (xi + 243 pp; ISBN 978-0-230-62314-9; $85).

The book is priced for the scholarly market but is poorly edited. It states that 9 August 1973 was “two weeks before Tolkien’s death,” but Tolkien died 2 Sept. 1973. It refers twice to Biographia Literaria as being written by C. T. Coleridge (pp. 27, 233). Tolkien’s secretary Joy Hill becomes Joe Hill (p. 35). An uncorrected misprint refers to the 1980s when the 1890s must be meant (p. 52). Tolkien’s essay “English and Welsh” is “English and Wales” on p. 161, “England and Wales” on p. 200, and “About the English and the Welsh” on p.232. We read of “Niemor” (for Nienor, a character in Tolkien’s Túrin cycle, p. 35), “buriel-mounds” (p. 13), and the bookstore chain Barnes and Nobles (p. 39), and that “today’s individual… have [sic] lost a lot of historical knowledge” (p. 221). The style bogs down: “the new digital picture archive from the [Peter Jackson] film production [was used] for all kinds of digital manipulation. If we take into account the whole reception of Tolkien’s ideas, we may adopt a different, and maybe unexpected, comprehensive view of his project, particularly if we take into account the effects of his ideas” (p. 217). Few readers will assume with Zettersten that “a radio or TV interview would have created a more relaxed setting [for Tolkien to speak in] than … a social gathering at a pub, or a lively meeting with colleagues after dinner in his own college” (p. 6). One frequently thinks that Zettersten is about to focus on one particular issue, but he draws off to something else. The book is repetitive. It was, apparently, first written in Swedish and the translation is not polished. Och, rather than English and, appears on pp. 174 and 231. The book needed a good editor.

Readers may shrug off such defects if the book brings Tolkien the man close to them and if what it says about Tolkien’s creativity is insightful. The book may be guardedly affirmed on both counts.

Having corresponded with him since May 1959, Zettersten first visited Tolkien in June 1961. He tells his first impressions of Tolkien’s appearance (“surprisingly robust physique,” “natural heartiness” of manner, hair parted on the left and thick in the back, bushy eyebrows, warm handshake, distinctive voice) and recounts his walk from the noisy center of Oxford to Tolkien’s Sandfield Road residence in Headington. These early paragraphs are enjoyable, and it is pleasant in the middle of the book to glimpse Tolkien’s conversational topics ranging from philology to his own subcreation to “various whiskies and their merits” (p. 113). So far as I know Zettersten is the only source in print for the list of eleven books from Tolkien’s schooldays (p. 78). Almost everything that Zettersten says about Tolkien the man, however, is already known from Tolkien’s published letters and books by members of the Tolkien family, John Garth, Peter Gilliver, Christina Scull and Wayne Hammond, Humphrey Carpenter, and others. Zettersten’s book is a useful condensation of their many pages. Zettersten’s affection for Tolkien pervades the book, but perhaps he waited too long to write it; his book mostly lacks the unique anecdotes that readers will have hoped for.

While many readers will welcome a book on Tolkien, a philologist, written by another outstanding philologist, some may fear that it will be too esoteric. It’s not. For example, a nice explanation of “philology” appears on p. 79. (It could have appeared earlier in the book.) One might, again, fear that Zettersten would naturally emphasize philology at the expense of other elements contributing to Tolkien’s creativity, but the book is reasonably balanced. We read of Tolkien being captivated by the Gothic, Finnish, and Welsh languages, but also of his prewar friendships, Tolkien’s love for Edith and the importance of their son Christopher Tolkien as reader of LOTR as it was being written, Tolkien’s Great War experiences, the stimulus of the Inklings, and the role of pictorial art and calligraphy. Zettersten doesn’t let the philological perspective run away with him but uses it. Given his qualifications, one wishes he had commented on Tolkien’s philological essays such as “Sigelwara Land,” “The Devil’s Coach-Horses,” and “Chaucer as Philologist.” Since the “AB Language” in which Ancrene Wisse is written is a specialty of Zettersten’s, he is able to evoke the two scholars’ shared enthusiasm for it. He records too their interest in the fragmentary poem Waldere. He conveys the “code-switching” quality of Tolkien’s mind, adapting a linguistic term for a rapid alternation “between two languages, or between two dialects or between two registers.” Thus, “Tolkien could suddenly flit between the primary and the secondary world without the slightest difficulty or doubt” (p. 113). Yes: Zettersten really does seem to understand how Tolkien’s mind worked -- although I’m still mulling his notion that Tolkien would have published a finished text of The Silmarillion in his lifetime if he had been able to work on the book with a word processor (p. 36). During his last visits with Tolkien, Zettersten perceived that Tolkien realized that he would not see The Silmarillion through to publication.

Other than institutions with special Tolkien collections, libraries do not need to purchase this book.
 
Hugh, here's my review from 2011 of a book worth getting from the library for some biographical material on Tolkien.

Tolkien by a Colleague and Friend

by Dale Nelson

Arne Zettersten worked with Tolkien on the Oxford Early English Text Society’s multi-volume edition of all seventeen manuscripts of Ancrene Wisse. The first volume appeared in 1962; it was the final major scholarly work released in his lifetime by Tolkien. Zettersten saw the project through to completion in 2000. He has written J. R. R. Tolkien’s Double Worlds and Creative Process: Language and Life, published 2011 by Palgrave Macmillan (xi + 243 pp; ISBN 978-0-230-62314-9; $85).

The book is priced for the scholarly market but is poorly edited. It states that 9 August 1973 was “two weeks before Tolkien’s death,” but Tolkien died 2 Sept. 1973. It refers twice to Biographia Literaria as being written by C. T. Coleridge (pp. 27, 233). Tolkien’s secretary Joy Hill becomes Joe Hill (p. 35). An uncorrected misprint refers to the 1980s when the 1890s must be meant (p. 52). Tolkien’s essay “English and Welsh” is “English and Wales” on p. 161, “England and Wales” on p. 200, and “About the English and the Welsh” on p.232. We read of “Niemor” (for Nienor, a character in Tolkien’s Túrin cycle, p. 35), “buriel-mounds” (p. 13), and the bookstore chain Barnes and Nobles (p. 39), and that “today’s individual… have [sic] lost a lot of historical knowledge” (p. 221). The style bogs down: “the new digital picture archive from the [Peter Jackson] film production [was used] for all kinds of digital manipulation. If we take into account the whole reception of Tolkien’s ideas, we may adopt a different, and maybe unexpected, comprehensive view of his project, particularly if we take into account the effects of his ideas” (p. 217). Few readers will assume with Zettersten that “a radio or TV interview would have created a more relaxed setting [for Tolkien to speak in] than … a social gathering at a pub, or a lively meeting with colleagues after dinner in his own college” (p. 6). One frequently thinks that Zettersten is about to focus on one particular issue, but he draws off to something else. The book is repetitive. It was, apparently, first written in Swedish and the translation is not polished. Och, rather than English and, appears on pp. 174 and 231. The book needed a good editor.

Readers may shrug off such defects if the book brings Tolkien the man close to them and if what it says about Tolkien’s creativity is insightful. The book may be guardedly affirmed on both counts.

Having corresponded with him since May 1959, Zettersten first visited Tolkien in June 1961. He tells his first impressions of Tolkien’s appearance (“surprisingly robust physique,” “natural heartiness” of manner, hair parted on the left and thick in the back, bushy eyebrows, warm handshake, distinctive voice) and recounts his walk from the noisy center of Oxford to Tolkien’s Sandfield Road residence in Headington. These early paragraphs are enjoyable, and it is pleasant in the middle of the book to glimpse Tolkien’s conversational topics ranging from philology to his own subcreation to “various whiskies and their merits” (p. 113). So far as I know Zettersten is the only source in print for the list of eleven books from Tolkien’s schooldays (p. 78). Almost everything that Zettersten says about Tolkien the man, however, is already known from Tolkien’s published letters and books by members of the Tolkien family, John Garth, Peter Gilliver, Christina Scull and Wayne Hammond, Humphrey Carpenter, and others. Zettersten’s book is a useful condensation of their many pages. Zettersten’s affection for Tolkien pervades the book, but perhaps he waited too long to write it; his book mostly lacks the unique anecdotes that readers will have hoped for.

While many readers will welcome a book on Tolkien, a philologist, written by another outstanding philologist, some may fear that it will be too esoteric. It’s not. For example, a nice explanation of “philology” appears on p. 79. (It could have appeared earlier in the book.) One might, again, fear that Zettersten would naturally emphasize philology at the expense of other elements contributing to Tolkien’s creativity, but the book is reasonably balanced. We read of Tolkien being captivated by the Gothic, Finnish, and Welsh languages, but also of his prewar friendships, Tolkien’s love for Edith and the importance of their son Christopher Tolkien as reader of LOTR as it was being written, Tolkien’s Great War experiences, the stimulus of the Inklings, and the role of pictorial art and calligraphy. Zettersten doesn’t let the philological perspective run away with him but uses it. Given his qualifications, one wishes he had commented on Tolkien’s philological essays such as “Sigelwara Land,” “The Devil’s Coach-Horses,” and “Chaucer as Philologist.” Since the “AB Language” in which Ancrene Wisse is written is a specialty of Zettersten’s, he is able to evoke the two scholars’ shared enthusiasm for it. He records too their interest in the fragmentary poem Waldere. He conveys the “code-switching” quality of Tolkien’s mind, adapting a linguistic term for a rapid alternation “between two languages, or between two dialects or between two registers.” Thus, “Tolkien could suddenly flit between the primary and the secondary world without the slightest difficulty or doubt” (p. 113). Yes: Zettersten really does seem to understand how Tolkien’s mind worked -- although I’m still mulling his notion that Tolkien would have published a finished text of The Silmarillion in his lifetime if he had been able to work on the book with a word processor (p. 36). During his last visits with Tolkien, Zettersten perceived that Tolkien realized that he would not see The Silmarillion through to publication.

Other than institutions with special Tolkien collections, libraries do not need to purchase this book.

Many thanks!

I've just checked out prices: Yes, this is one to access through the library system
 
I have started re-reading Life of Pi by Yann Martel. I first read it years ago when the movie (which is also quite good) came out. I started thinking about it again after reading American Gods by Neil Gaiman. These two books have similar themes about the nature of reality and purpose of metaphors.
 
I finished Becky Chambers' Record of a Spaceborn Few. Even more so than her two previous books, this is a Science Fiction novel that's very focused on exploring the characters and the society they live in and there's very little in the way of action. The setting is the Exodus Fleet mentioned in the previous novels, a group of generation starships once used to escape from a dying Earth but now just a small part of a multi-species galactic civilisation, with the question of whether the fleet still serves a purpose being one of the main themes of the book. I found the setting interesting, and I thought Chambers did a good job of showing the differing perspectives and instincts of those who live in the fleet compared to humans who had grown up on planets. I thought the characterisation was good as well, and while the character arcs sometimes don't involve decisions that would be of great importance in the grand scheme of things, I thought the book did a good job of showing why they were important to the characters.
 

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