tegeus-Cromis
a better poet than swordsman
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I guess I'm going to be a contrarian on this thread. I love Vathek.
(And, @Ursa major , I have that book too.)
(And, @Ursa major , I have that book too.)
Speaking of SF by authors not normally associated with the genre, I thought Doris Lessing's Canopus in Argos: Archives Re: Colonized Planet 5 Shikasta Personal, Psychological, Historical Documents Relating to Visit by Johor (George Sherban) Emissary (Grade 9) 87th of the Period of the Last Days (to give it the full title as shown on the cover of the first edition) read like SF by somebody who hasn't read much SF.
Yeah i heard that one is fine. But i tried to read others and good grief and i'm from Portugal so i really triedDo you mean the Nobel Laureate, Jose Saramago, by any chance? I thought his book Blindness was excellent.
Clarissa, or, the History of a Young Lady by Samuel Richardson. Page after endless page of preaching by a self-righteous so-and-so (meaning the author). Pure agony to read.
Vathek by William Beckford.
Clarissa I found myself skimming. It did have some good parts. (Or maybe that was just that I had seen the movie and I was able to visualize the nuances the actors, including Sean Bean, brought to the characters they played.) Richardson's Pamela or Virtue Rewarded (which is another book I inexplicably finished) is, in my opinion, many times worse. His idea of virtue rewarded nearly gave me an apoplexy.
Books like Otranto and The Monk are nasty and stupid, but Richardson, under the guise of a moral lesson, probably infected generations of young women with some of the most pernicious and dangerous ideas about romantic relationships and marriage ever. It should probably be mentioned in the "Books You Shouldn't Read" thread.
Edit -- I see that Baylor already did a while ago.
I started and gave up on one that despite having a brilliant premise was poorly executed, in my opinion. However, the annoyance came more from the glorious reviews it had got. As a result I started doubting my own writing. If this was judged to be so good, why did I find it so awkward to read? Was my own writing wrong?
If you ever meet an author that claims to like every popular book they've read, you're probably talking a liar.
Anyway, since I struggle at choosing...
Assassin's Apprentice - Robin Hobb is a magnificent writer. I like her ability to do little twists to the classic fantasy milieu. I liked so much about this book. But there's a giant annoying flaw and that is Fitz just makes the worst, most self-defeating decisions. It makes the book (and series) by turns depressing and infuriating.
The Elder Gods - I think to get full annoyment out of this book, you've got to read all of the other Eddings book first. Because that's how you become really aware of just how much he's emulating himself. Throw in a particularly inept enemy and it's basically pointless.
...and then discovering, when the next volume arrives, that it's Wizard and Glass (and, in particular, the story within a story)....but when waiting for the next volume in a series, after a cliffhanger ending...
I'd mention The Mayor of Casterbridge by Thomas Hardy, where the author's pointlessly miserable outlook just looks like a pose for the sake of it
Thank you for writing that. I read the novel once & liked it (and liked very much the TV series with Alan Bates). But I started it for a second reading once, and there was some line about a bird singing its tedious song or something like that -- and I could have just about tossed the book at the wall, because, right, it's like Hardy wants to wallow in pointless misery.
I still think it's probably a novel deserving of another reading, a real tragedy of character, but I'll have to get past that bird.
Someone mentioned Frankenstein -- and actually that had come to mind. I finished it -- as I almost never do a book that I don't hink much of; and I remember thinking it was a remarkable weepy book.
I probably will not bother with the other two novels in that Penguin, The Castle of Otranto and Vathek, seeing the remarks they have come in for here, etc.
Arthur Machen is one of my favorite authors for some of what he wrote, but his novels The Hill of Dreams and The Secret Glory are annoying in having so much self-pity!
Baylor, probably I would read more of CAS first -- and I'm not too much of CAS fan!