Long-Term Reading Projects

Eckerlyc -- author (name?) aged 95, with 4 volumes to go?

That reminded me of Robert Caro, age 84, with at least one volume of his immense biography of Lyndon Johnson yet to go.


I have just the first volume. Tackling that set of four books would be a long-term reading project in itself!
 
Eckerlyc -- author (name?) aged 95, with 4 volumes to go?

That reminded me of Robert Caro, age 84, with at least one volume of his immense biography of Lyndon Johnson yet to go.
The author is Jan Buisman, a Dutchman. He has 2 volumes to go (7 was published last year). Though, to be honest, I assume all his research is done and documented, by him and his team. It needs 'only' to be redacted.
Btw, his works are not translated. Which led a Frenchman to exclaim that everyone interested enough should learn Dutch. The books were worth the effort.
 
Long term reading projects are part of the dream of retirement.

Tbh my work is all-consuming at the moment, and involves a lot of reading and writing extremely dense papers, such that it is quite difficult to switch off at all. It is The Economist for light relief.

I need a long week in the deep countryside with a suitcase of cheap and lurid 1960s sf pulps, a wood fire, and a supply of good ale.
 
I think I've posted about this before on some other thread but, for the 100th anniversary of his traditional birth year, I'm currently re-reading all of Asimov's science fiction (reading, in the case of The Alternate Asimovs) as well as reading or re-reading his autobiographical books and reviewing them for my blog. This has already taken me four months (while doing other things, obviously) and I've only completed one volume of the autobiography (708 dense pages) and the seven books focusing on material published from 1939-1950 (plus a few stray stories in other books) so it's already been a multi-month project, though I have at least a couple of reasons to think things will speed up soon.
 
J-Sun, that’s an ambitious project.

I’d already wondered if anyone has ever seriously attempted to read all of the books Asimov eventually wrote and those for which he received editorial credit.
 
This guy apparently has: Jenkins’ Spoiler-Laden Guide to Isaac Asimov

As big of an Asimov nut as I am, I can't imagine reading "board books" for two-year-olds and innumerable "How Did We...?" books for slightly larger children just to have read all of Asimov. Or spending the money it would take to get some of the rarer items. But I'm glad someone has. :) I'll just stick to the one hundred and some I have. (Well, I don't intend to go much over two hundred, anyway.) The authored SF is just about 40-some, which isn't as many as a lot of authors.
 
I think I've posted about this before on some other thread but, for the 100th anniversary of his traditional birth year, I'm currently re-reading all of Asimov's science fiction (reading, in the case of The Alternate Asimovs) as well as reading or re-reading his autobiographical books and reviewing them for my blog. This has already taken me four months (while doing other things, obviously) and I've only completed one volume of the autobiography (708 dense pages) and the seven books focusing on material published from 1939-1950 (plus a few stray stories in other books) so it's already been a multi-month project, though I have at least a couple of reasons to think things will speed up soon.

There's a thread for the "early" Asimov novels:


I'm wondering what your opinion is regarding Asimov's novels, or the novels attributed to him or with him as collaborator, after The Gods Themselves. My impression, to put it bluntly, is that none of them is a book you gotta read.
 
Since I've only re-read the stuff he published from 1939-1950 so far, this is all based on recollections except for Pebble in the Sky. However, my re-reading experience hasn't been too surprising so far, so I'd think my old opinions would still mostly hold, allowing for some "re-thinking" without yet re-reading. I don't think there's any novel solely credited to Asimov I didn't enjoy to some extent, though Fantastic Voyage is fairly weak and, if I recall, Fantastic Voyage II is better in ways but is still a "Fantastic Voyage" and so not really necessary. I agree with the notion that there's Early (or Early/Middle) Asimov and Late, and that Late isn't as necessary, but I always stick up for Foundation's Edge and Robots of Dawn. (Really curious about re-reading those to see if that holds.) Robots and Empire is clever but, even back when, I felt the climax, even for me and Asimov, was too talky. Foundation and Earth is interesting and has a wonderful moment in it but it's also a disappointing last (in the internal chronology) novel. I won't be surprised if I have even more trouble with this on the re-read. The prequels are also enjoyable but I'm not a fan of prequels. While not as good as Edge and Dawn, Nemesis is a good (and rare) stand-alone, though the least of the three stand-alones and brings up the notion of collaboration. I have wondered if Janet helped any beginning with Nemesis but I don't know there. His style changed with the 80s novels due to time and the requirement to write longer books but, if I recall, there's some flavor of a further change in Nemesis.) As far as the credited collaborations, the Norby books "with" Janet Asimov are for small children and are likely just as much by her as the Silverberg novelizations of some stories are by him (which is "entirely") and I don't like what little I've read of either group. The Silverbergs are good enough, technically, I suppose, but there's no point to them.

Basically, I think Asimov's Late phase was much better than Heinlein's but, yeah, the only novels most readers gotta read are the early novels and The Gods Themselves. It's just that I wouldn't want to do without them, especially Edge and Dawn.

That thread you point to is pretty wild: I said "I've been itching to go on a massive Asimov re-reading binge for years now" and it's been six years since then. But, finally, the notion of the Centennial just let me throw the Pile under the bus and get to it. While I probably noticed more issues and have stronger philosophical reservations, I still absolutely love The Foundation Trilogy and think it's one of the greatest things ever. I'm so glad I re-read it. :)
 
J-Sun, thank you for what I'm sure is a well-informed assessment! I wonder if anyone here will differ significantly.... I doubt it.
 
And, J-Sun (or anyone who would know), what’s the difference between In Memory Yet Green with In Joy Still Felt on one hand, and I, Asimov, on the other?
 
I've read I, Asimov and In Memory Yet Green, but I've only just started In Joy Still Felt, but Asimov wrote the two as one manuscript and it was just published in two volumes with a segue from one to the other, so I think everything about In Memory Yet Green applies. The first two tell a long, sustained story of his life while the latter moves loosely through time but is more a collection of anecdotes about various people, places, and things and is shorter. (The writing is still vigorous but the precariousness and drain of his ill-health probably dictated the different approach.) In ways, the difference isn't absolute, in that the first volumes include a lot of isolated anecdotes and the last does manage a bit of the effect of a narrative but the first are more event-based autobiographies and the latter is a more concept-based memoir. Probably the biggest difference is just that the first two stop right before his return to SF novels and most of the other initially covers that same ground but with more than a decade's additional perspective and then extends it to right near the end. The first two are best for the 1920-1978 coverage and the third is the only sustained coverage for 1979-1990 (and Janet Asimov includes an Epilogue which briefly extends it to the end in 1992).
 
Thank you, J-Sun! Sounds like the first two would be good choices for me.
 
I am trying to read all the expanded Lovecraft universe. That guy had a lot of friends writing about his mythos.
 
I am trying to read all the expanded Lovecraft universe. That guy had a lot of friends writing about his mythos.

Whewww… I wonder if that won't get fatiguing long before you approach completion. A few months ago I made a try at some of August Derleth's stories. I managed to finish The Lurker at the Threshold but couldn't get on with The Mask of and The Trail of Cthulhu. Don't much care for Frank Belknap Long's stuff that I've read or at least attempted. At pretty much the height of my HPL interest I didn't manage to finish Basil Copper's The Great White Space. And so on.
 
Whewww… I wonder if that won't get fatiguing long before you approach completion. A few months ago I made a try at some of August Derleth's stories. I managed to finish The Lurker at the Threshold but couldn't get on with The Mask of and The Trail of Cthulhu. Don't much care for Frank Belknap Long's stuff that I've read or at least attempted. At pretty much the height of my HPL interest I didn't manage to finish Basil Copper's The Great White Space. And so on.

The problem is that some of them had opposing views of the Gods, their powers, their influence on humanity, etc. so you end up reading it and thinking: "wait, doesn't this contradict what Lovecraft wrote in Dagon?"
 
Am thinking of starting Book Hoarders Anonymous, my house is groaning full of the damned things from over fifty years of collecting, but am still buying the wretched things now, even with about 80 to 90% of what I have is as yet unread, help!!!!!!!!!
 
I remember the horror and disgust when 11-year-old me discovered that Asimov had suddenly started writing huge long novels with sex in them (I felt the same thing about Clarke). I think this would have been about the time of Foundation's Edge. I remember not being very convinced when he joined his robot and Foundation stories. My suspicion is that Asimov learned his trade when SF was rather technical and dry, and that was when he was at his best: a lot of the robot stories involved investigating a particular malfunction, which seemed to suit him as a style.

Re Lovecraft: there's a comment in the old Call of Cthulhu game by Sandy Petersen (who seemed to really get Lovecraft's style) that he ignored a lot of the expansions by other writers after Lovecraft's death, who watered down the original concepts. He doesn't mention Deleth by name, but given the things he says he left out, it's clear that it was Derleth that he meant.
 
Am thinking of starting Book Hoarders Anonymous, my house is groaning full of the damned things from over fifty years of collecting, but am still buying the wretched things now, even with about 80 to 90% of what I have is as yet unread, help!!!!!!!!!
Ditto
 

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