Thoughts on the 1982 Conan Film and all things Conan and Conan Related.

BAYLOR said:
I have no doubt that John Millius and Oliver Stone had some familiarity with Howards stories and characters. They likely knew that Thoth Amon was Conan's main villain , but chose Thulsa doom because they liked his name better. It could be as simple as that. And I agree James Earl Jones could have easily played Thoth Amon.

Another actor that would have also been good choice to play Thoth Amon is Amrish Lal Puri . He played Mola Ram in Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. He's was a great actor and he would have been perfect for the role of Thoth Amon ! :cool:
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Yes, Amrish Lal Puri would have been outstanding in the role. He even fits the image in my head.
 
Thanks for the rundown on all those novels Baylor, and good to know you are a Conan expert as I might have more questions one day :) After hanging around these forums for a couple of months my reading list is growing quicker than the time I have to read them, but I will add that first one you mentioned for starters.
 
My favorite part is the sound that James Earl Jones' head makes as it bounces down the stairs. Now that's what I call poetic justice!:LOL:
 
I remember watching them both in the cinema, for the first movie it was myself and a group of mates and no one else in the whole theatre. I have to say I really enjoyed the film, yes it is a B Movie, but that doesnt mean it is a bad movie :)

And it did do justice to the spirit of REH.
 
I think the Conan in Destroyer and "Kalidor" are closer to REH than the 1982 film which lacks the adventure and fantasy--for a big budget film, it really dropped the ball on that aspect and I wonder how the competing project with Jim Danforth as FX supervisor might have done.

"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women"

That line bugs me a lot as REH Conan would not have said that. I don't think he would have enjoyed making widows and orphans. I am not sure even war-mongering Achilles would have said it either! It's psychopathic and I don't see Conan as a psychopath. Not that Arnie's Conan comes across like that, but the scene with him repeating that line like a brainwashed goof is so far from REH.

The lack of monsters is unforgivable and dare I say, their choices in the women roles was far less glamorous than in an Italian peplum. They needed women like Caroline Munro or one that closely resembled a Buscema model such as:

 
Yeah I forgot that was where he was with those other guys and was repeating the indoctrination.
 
KGeo777 said:
Yeah I forgot that was where he was with those other guys and was repeating the indoctrination.
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The opening of the film has a quote by Nietzsche " That which does not kill us makes us stronger"
 
JJewel said:
I remember watching them both in the cinema, for the first movie it was myself and a group of mates and no one else in the whole theatre. I have to say I really enjoyed the film, yes it is a B Movie, but that doesnt mean it is a bad movie :)

And it did do justice to the spirit of REH.
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In one of Janet Morris's Heroes In Hell anthologies There was story /scene which had Robert E. Howard and HP Lovecraft traveling though hell in a pickup truck and they encountered Gilgamesh .
 
BAYLOR said:
In one of Janet Morris's Heroes In Hell anthologies There was story /scene which had Robert E. Howard and HP Lovecraft traveling though hell in a pickup truck and they encountered Gilgamesh .
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Somehow I don't imagine Howard and Lovecraft getting along very well
 
Really? Wow! I knew they each respected and enjoyed one another's work, but I would have thought Howard, a big no-nonsense, tough Texan would have had little patience for a thin, proto-intellectual Yankee, and vice-versa...

Did they ever actually meet?
 
Narkalui said:
Really? Wow! I knew they each respected and enjoyed one another's work, but I would have thought Howard, a big no-nonsense, tough Texan would have had little patience for a thin, proto-intellectual Yankee, and vice-versa...

Did they ever actually meet?
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No , Howard and Lovercrat never met one another face to face . They carried on their friendship in the form letters back and forth and forth for many years. There was Thord member of this Friendship group . Clark Ashton Smith who also coespended with the both of them. He in turn never met with of them face to face. They couldn't afford to travel , which why they never met.
 
That's interesting to know! Now you mention it, a very dim, old bell is ringing, so I think I might have heard of this correspondence before...
 
Narkalui said:
That's interesting to know! Now you mention it, a very dim, old bell is ringing, so I think I might have heard of this correspondence before...
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They did little homages to each other in their stories . for example in one the Lovecraft stories there is reference to Cimmeria ( Conan lane of origin).



I just remembered something, A few years ago someone did a fantasy/ horror novel in which Howard and Lovecraft had met and were doing battle with evil menacing the world . I saw the book and I wish I had picked it up . I can't for the life of me remember the author for title of the book.:unsure:
 
That s a popular year for fantasy

The Sword and Sorcerer 1982 A bit of an over the top film , but fun to watch and would in its own right have made a good film franchise. :)
 
Then there's the 1987 film The Barbarians It revolves around two Barbarian Brothers who look like Conan knockoffs . It's a silly but fun film to watch.:D
 
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