Zardoz an Under Appreciated Science Fiction Classic

[JunkMonkey]

The ending was difficult to fathom

There are different cuts. It's one of those films which got hacked about a bit post production when the producers didn't like the director's cut. From memory the ending Saul Bass shot, and the ending in the released print were radically different. (Though I couldn't off hand tell you how.)

 

[JunkMonkey]

Logan's run seems much more remote, in terms of how close I feel I am getting to the issues and the players. They both explore issues that impact the future of humanity, but Zardoz seems to be much more personal and in your face.

And it's not stultifyingly boring for its second half which Logan's Run is. Once they are out of the city it becomes a plodding bore.

 

[BAYLOR]

There are different cuts. It's one of those films which got hacked about a bit post production when the producers didn't like the director's cut. From memory the ending Saul Bass shot, and the ending in the released print were radically different. (Though I couldn't off hand tell you how.)

Interesting , I wasn't; aware there was a different ending for Zardoz. It sounds a bit like what happed to thee original of Orson well fIm The Magnificent Ambersons .

 

[BAYLOR]

And it's not stultifyingly boring for its second half which Logan's Run is. Once they are out of the city it becomes a plodding bore.

If they ever did a remake of this one, , Id like to see the remake more in line wit the 1967 novel .

 

[JunkMonkey]

It sounds a bit like what happed to thee original of Orson well fIm The Magnificent Ambersons .

Happened often. But The Magnificent Ambersons is a good example. What's left of it it is still wonderful

 

[BAYLOR]

Happened often. But The Magnificent Ambersons is a good example. What's left of it it is still wonderful

There was story recently about an uncut print of Welles film possibly being in Brazil ?

 

[JunkMonkey]

There was story recently about an uncut print of Welles film possibly being in Brazil ?

We can only hope. After that missing footage from Metropolis turned up a few years ago - in shockingly bad condition but I thought I'd never see it - anything is possible.

 

[paeng]

Fascinating Yes, but also lacking. I think they did what of because they didn't have time to do any kind long sequence of their life after the fall of Zardoz, at least that's my take.

I think I saw it as such because it was lacking.

 

[BAYLOR]

The rifle cartridges in his "bandolier" and "belt" would not fit into that handgun.

Nice boots, though.

Yes, It's quite a fashion statement. Why couldn't he have worn the costume in The League of extraordinary Gentlemen?

 

[BAYLOR]

There are different cuts. It's one of those films which got hacked about a bit post production when the producers didn't like the director's cut. From memory the ending Saul Bass shot, and the ending in the released print were radically different. (Though I couldn't off hand tell you how.)

On Youtube there is something called The Lost Ending of Phase 4. I have no idea what to make off it . It's pretty strange stuff.

 

[BAYLOR]

They might considered doing a remake of this film .

 

[Toby Frost]

I think the real question is: who has the sillier pants, Sean Connery in Zardoz or Sting in Dune?

 

[BAYLOR]

I think the real question is: who has the sillier pants, Sean Connery in Zardoz or Sting in Dune?

Sean Connery's costume would have been fine had he been in Logan's Run . Hm, Sean Connery as Logan 5. I can see that .

 

[Noah Chinn]

Funny I should come across this thread. I write a comic strip that is basically Toy Story meets Dungeons and Dragons. At its core it's about a group of roleplayers playing a science fiction RPG. My upcoming strip next Sunday actually shows the players in characters in the SF setting, and I wanted to introduce them in a high-tech looking data readout/hologram kind of way. One of them ends up looking like this:

 

[Christine Wheelwright]

Never seen Zardoz but I might seek it out now. There is a very interesting recorded conversation between Harlan Ellison and Robert Silverberg (online somewhere) in which they discuss a sudden dumbing-down of SF in the mid 70s. Star Wars is mentioned (I think by Silverberg) as a pivotal moment in this decline. (I'll be careful what I say because I know there is plenty of love for Star Wars in these forums). Anyway, I think Silverberg actually admits to taking advantage of this decline as an opportunity to churn out some tat for the masses (Lord Valentine's Castle anyone?). I'm in danger of digressing, but this thread reminded me of that mid-70s change in style.

 

[BAYLOR]

Funny I should come across this thread. I write a comic strip that is basically Toy Story meets Dungeons and Dragons. At its core it's about a group of roleplayers playing a science fiction RPG. My upcoming strip next Sunday actually shows the players in characters in the SF setting, and I wanted to introduce them in a high-tech looking data readout/hologram kind of way. One of them ends up looking like this:

Welcome to Chrons Noah.

 

[paeng]

Charlotte's the only reason why I'd rewatch that movie!

 

[Rodders]

I don't think Zardoz deserves classic status, to be honest. Too esoteric and confusing.

 

[BAYLOR]

Charlotte's the only reason why I'd rewatch that movie!

Yes, she was gorgeous and , would have made a really good Bond girl too.

 

[BAYLOR]

Did Ramírez have an Aston Martin?

No, but he had a really cool sword .