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Just a quick question (and hoping this is the right spot -wasn't sure if the Lounge was best) -does anyone do live storytelling? Some advice from @The Judge about using a visual medium got me thinking about giving it a go at an open mic somewhere. Would be good to hear what works/ doesn't as it's probably a thing someplace.
All advice appreciated. (y)
 
I think it would work very well if you have stage presence and a great reading voice. (But you're Irish, right? So the second ought to be covered.) I've been to open mic for poetry and I'm happy now that I have the opportunity to use one of my favourite words, because they were almost universally execrable. Even book readings by pro authors I've been to have mostly had me wanting to hurry them up. Words aren't enough. You'd need to be a cross between a good actor and a tribal shaman.
 
I've done a couple of live reading events, so here's my top 4 suggestions:
1: Rehearse it thoroughly in advance. For all of the events I did, I had a script in my hand to read from, but it really helps if you already know what's coming.
2: For a ten minute slot, around 1k words is about right. If you get through 1k in five minutes, you're talking too fast.
3: Assuming you have a reading script, print it in a larger font and tweak the layout so that you don't split paragraphs across page boundaries. (And as part of item 1, get to know where the page turning happens, because I found that I could "read" chunks of it without looking at the script, which means I could hit a point where I needed the script and had missed a page turn.)
4: Don't have one of your front teeth removed the week before the event. :rolleyes:

A couple of of me in action:

And for a really polished performer, Andrew Wallace

All from Future Fictions organised through Virtual Futures
 
Words aren't enough. You'd need to be a cross between a good actor and a tribal shaman.
Crumbs, so it's easy enough then! Appreciate the advice. Well done on finding an opportunity to use your favourite word;)
 
I've done a couple of live reading events, so here's my top 4 suggestions:
1: Rehearse it thoroughly in advance. For all of the events I did, I had a script in my hand to read from, but it really helps if you already know what's coming.
2: For a ten minute slot, around 1k words is about right. If you get through 1k in five minutes, you're talking too fast.
3: Assuming you have a reading script, print it in a larger font and tweak the layout so that you don't split paragraphs across page boundaries. (And as part of item 1, get to know where the page turning happens, because I found that I could "read" chunks of it without looking at the script, which means I could hit a point where I needed the script and had missed a page turn.)
4: Don't have one of your front teeth removed the week before the event. :rolleyes:

A couple of of me in action:

And for a really polished performer, Andrew Wallace

All from Future Fictions organised through Virtual Futures
Great stuff, ya looked very comfortable at that. Appreciate the advice -not talking too fast is going to be breaking the habit of a lifetime, but the word count thing is a great reference. Fair play, thanks for the pointers and links.
 
Another tip for live readings is to memorise the sentence ahead, lift your eyes to the back of the room and speak to a point just above the heads of the people in the back row. If you’ve no microphone, this helps to project your voice but even with a microphone, it helps the audience stay engaged as it gives the impression that you’re looking right at them.*

Also, practice breathing. Nothing worse than running out of breath at a crucial point and finishing a sentence with a choked wheeze.

*But don’t actually make eye contact, especially with someone you know, or it can really put you off your stride. I used to do a bit of solo singing for weddings and stuff, and one time I was following my own advice, setting my eyes just above the back row, when I noticed my husband with our three small children. The middle child was standing on the bench and waving at me with a huge grin. I totally forgot the next line of the song!
 
Nice one, thanks. It's not till the beginning of March so there's time to practice/ chicken out -somebody told me to imagine everyone is in the nip, but I've no clue how that's supposed to help! Can see how having the kids there would turn it into an interactive experience without a plot. Hope ya go back to singing, great thing to be able to do.
 
No expert, I read a live poem or story roughly weekly at a poetry or writers group. A mic is nice if it is a live mic event but needs a little
distance to keep your voice clean. If it is a small acoustic venue practice being loud without forcing, there is a balance point. As @Kerrybuchanan says, Keep your lungs topped up as much as possible.

1.Rehearse and then hit the word processor to make an only for you layout with pauses, italic and bold, even simple notes if you need them.
Double space, when you look up at the audience and back it is terribly easy to lose your place.

2. Head up. Move between audience and script mostly with your eyes, not your head. That keeps your voice projection forward.

3. Don't go too fast, "savour" key lines and try not to speed up as you go.

ps 4. From experience: If your piece is 'serious' Try not to follow a "comedian" because they will get the audience in completely the wrong mind set :p . Mind you you have made me laugh quite a bit with your stories on here so you will likely be on the winning side of that equation.

pps 5. There is a tendency for people in audiences to watch you through their phones. Which I think is bloody rude but, whatever, they do it.



No vids like the ones above but here is an (audio only) poem demo, mic recorded, which I posted a while back on the poetry thread here.
 
Thanks @Astro Pen , a weekly practice makes you an expert in my book -appreciate the advice and will use it. It'll be pot luck what comes before (hopefully a few drinks). SF is a strange one, I think nearly everyone likes is but dunno if it's ever been in fashion so will see how it goes.
here is an (audio only) poem demo
Well done, great work and very well read ...'life was an island', powerfull stuff for a wet and windy Wednesday (y)
 
Unaccustomed as I am to public speaking... (Though the average courtroom is very different from an event where people are expecting to be entertained -- doubly so if they've had to pay to be there!! -- I think there is a crossover of technique as both involve needing to get the audience on-side and not bored rigid!)

Anyhow, I should say that when I made that comment about comedy pieces, I was thinking of stage/screen ie something dramatic, where pratfalls etc can do some of the heavy lifting, not just a written piece read aloud. Though in that regard, I've not been to a live storytelling of the kind you're envisaging, so this might seem a silly question, but is it actually storytelling, or storyreading? To my mind, the two are rather different.

A storyteller needs to have the main parts of the story fixed, but can embellish and embroider as needed, and can use gestures and his/her whole body to help tell the story -- it's a performance more than anything else. (This is very much the advocate in the courtroom -- bullet points to hand, but leeway for the actual words used, using emotion as much as logic to get the story across.) A storyreader is necessarily constrained by the words on the page and in the absence of an autocue will likely have less scope for physicality, so it's harder to generate atmosphere -- also more attention is going to be focussed on the words themselves, which means those words have to be very good indeed if the audience is to be kept engrossed.

In either case, I'd argue the most important thing is to understand how to use one's voice. I've been to book readings and while the authors weren't all as execrable as HB's poets, there was far too often a sameness in the tone and pitch during the reading which made for very boring listening. It's necessary to have some theatricality of presentation, so for instance if there is dialogue, to read the speech slightly differently from the narrative text, and to try and distinguish between speakers -- there's no need to try for different accents, but eg a deeper or harsher tone as opposed to a lighter, brighter one.

The other issue I've encountered at book readings is that the wrong piece is chosen and the extract isn't interesting and/or dramatic enough to hold the audience. That's not such a problem with short stories, but I'd still advise that you choose well -- have something with a cracking beginning, in order that the listeners are with you from the start.

I'd argue against Kerry's suggestion of looking above the audience's head. That would be perfect for a singer, but as a storyteller/reader you will need to engage more with your audience. You have to know if they're with you or they're getting fidgetty from boredom, and the best way for that is to keep looking at them so you can see how they're reacting. Don't look at one person, but have your gaze range over them all -- move your head, rather than swivel your eyes! -- drawing everyone into your ambit. Storytelling/reading is a two-way process between you and the audience -- good storytellers (like good comedians/actors/lawyers) will feed off those who are listening to them.

And though I've not been to any story/poem readings, over the years I've been to countless talks and lectures, both scripted and unscripted. The best have invariably been the latter, because the speaker knows his/her subject inside out and without having to read every word s/he has been able to inject real passion into the subject. (On one occasion we heard four speakers, one after the other, and the only one who was any good was a novelist who roamed back and forth across the dias as she spoke without notes. The others -- all university lecturers -- stuck to the lectern and their script and were boring, notwithstanding the subject matter. The novelist had learned she had to enthuse her audience to keep them listening, so she could sell her books. Seemingly always having a captive audience of students, lecturers/teachers generally don't have to put any effort into being interesting!)

As to practical matters, practise, practise, practise. Speak slowly, but not funereally so; don't mumble into the script or at the ground, look up and speak clearly. Record yourself and listen to what works and what doesn't. Have someone else listen and give feedback on both the story and your performance. If there are words you trip over consistently, re-write! If using a paper script, if your hand is likely to shake through nerves, see if you can rest that arm/wrist against the back of a chair, or put the script on a table, or perhaps write it out in a stiff-backed notebook, so the indivdual pages don't flop over. If you think your legs will give out, see if you can lean back against a table and perch your bum on it to give you support. (And envisaging your audience in the nude doesn't help, it just produces nightmare images on the one hand and giggles on the other!)

Good luck with it! Be sure to report back when it's over!
 
When reading out in public, I've always found it helps to:

- Prepare the text. Print it in large font with sufficient gaps that you won't lose your place. Read it out several times before, and make sure there are no pronunciations that might trip you up.
- Choose the text for the audience. The best-written bit might not be ideal for these listeners. If necessary, trim the text so that it is easy for the audience to get. The less explanation required to understand it, the better.
- Read slowly (but not too slowly). I was once told to count for one for a comma, two for a semi-colon, three for a colon and four for a full stop. I'm not sure that's vital but pauses are important.
- Try to sort out your papers before reading, to minimise having to fuss with them.
- If you're me, don't attempt accents. Slightly changing pitch and tone of voice between characters can help, though.
 
Unaccustomed as I am to public speaking... (Though the average courtroom is very different from an event where people are expecting to be entertained -- doubly so if they've had to pay to be there!! -- I think there is a crossover of technique as both involve needing to get the audience on-side and not bored rigid!)

Anyhow, I should say that when I made that comment about comedy pieces, I was thinking of stage/screen ie something dramatic, where pratfalls etc can do some of the heavy lifting, not just a written piece read aloud. Though in that regard, I've not been to a live storytelling of the kind you're envisaging, so this might seem a silly question, but is it actually storytelling, or storyreading? To my mind, the two are rather different.

A storyteller needs to have the main parts of the story fixed, but can embellish and embroider as needed, and can use gestures and his/her whole body to help tell the story -- it's a performance more than anything else. (This is very much the advocate in the courtroom -- bullet points to hand, but leeway for the actual words used, using emotion as much as logic to get the story across.) A storyreader is necessarily constrained by the words on the page and in the absence of an autocue will likely have less scope for physicality, so it's harder to generate atmosphere -- also more attention is going to be focussed on the words themselves, which means those words have to be very good indeed if the audience is to be kept engrossed.

In either case, I'd argue the most important thing is to understand how to use one's voice. I've been to book readings and while the authors weren't all as execrable as HB's poets, there was far too often a sameness in the tone and pitch during the reading which made for very boring listening. It's necessary to have some theatricality of presentation, so for instance if there is dialogue, to read the speech slightly differently from the narrative text, and to try and distinguish between speakers -- there's no need to try for different accents, but eg a deeper or harsher tone as opposed to a lighter, brighter one.

The other issue I've encountered at book readings is that the wrong piece is chosen and the extract isn't interesting and/or dramatic enough to hold the audience. That's not such a problem with short stories, but I'd still advise that you choose well -- have something with a cracking beginning, in order that the listeners are with you from the start.

I'd argue against Kerry's suggestion of looking above the audience's head. That would be perfect for a singer, but as a storyteller/reader you will need to engage more with your audience. You have to know if they're with you or they're getting fidgetty from boredom, and the best way for that is to keep looking at them so you can see how they're reacting. Don't look at one person, but have your gaze range over them all -- move your head, rather than swivel your eyes! -- drawing everyone into your ambit. Storytelling/reading is a two-way process between you and the audience -- good storytellers (like good comedians/actors/lawyers) will feed off those who are listening to them.

And though I've not been to any story/poem readings, over the years I've been to countless talks and lectures, both scripted and unscripted. The best have invariably been the latter, because the speaker knows his/her subject inside out and without having to read every word s/he has been able to inject real passion into the subject. (On one occasion we heard four speakers, one after the other, and the only one who was any good was a novelist who roamed back and forth across the dias as she spoke without notes. The others -- all university lecturers -- stuck to the lectern and their script and were boring, notwithstanding the subject matter. The novelist had learned she had to enthuse her audience to keep them listening, so she could sell her books. Seemingly always having a captive audience of students, lecturers/teachers generally don't have to put any effort into being interesting!)

As to practical matters, practise, practise, practise. Speak slowly, but not funereally so; don't mumble into the script or at the ground, look up and speak clearly. Record yourself and listen to what works and what doesn't. Have someone else listen and give feedback on both the story and your performance. If there are words you trip over consistently, re-write! If using a paper script, if your hand is likely to shake through nerves, see if you can rest that arm/wrist against the back of a chair, or put the script on a table, or perhaps write it out in a stiff-backed notebook, so the indivdual pages don't flop over. If you think your legs will give out, see if you can lean back against a table and perch your bum on it to give you support. (And envisaging your audience in the nude doesn't help, it just produces nightmare images on the one hand and giggles on the other!)

Good luck with it! Be sure to report back when it's over!
Thanks TJ, will definitely report back if it goes ahead -the plan is to tell rather than read and leave things a bit flexible depending on how the reaction is. Practice seems to be the key so will be pestering anyone within earshot over the next while. I agree with the two-way thing, and probably the listener is the most important part as they're the one experiencing the adventure (or not!).
 
Nice one, thanks. It's not till the beginning of March so there's time to practice/ chicken out -somebody told me to imagine everyone is in the nip, but I've no clue how that's supposed to help! Can see how having the kids there would turn it into an interactive experience without a plot. Hope ya go back to singing, great thing to be able to do.
Also forgot to say, a transparent 6” ruler or similar, or even a finger, helps to keep your place as you look up.

I’d love to go back to singing but a number of years ago I got sick and ended on a ventilator in ICU. This caused damage to my vocal cords and I lost most of my vocal range and fine control of my voice. I had to learn to talk again (made up for lost time ever since!). I still sing, but not often and not where anyone can hear me!
 
Also forgot to say, a transparent 6” ruler or similar, or even a finger, helps to keep your place as you look up.

I’d love to go back to singing but a number of years ago I got sick and ended on a ventilator in ICU. This caused damage to my vocal cords and I lost most of my vocal range and fine control of my voice. I had to learn to talk again (made up for lost time ever since!). I still sing, but not often and not where anyone can hear me!
Sorry to hear that -it's great that you came back so strong but that was a cruel thing to have happen.
Gonna try a story without notes, appreciate the advice though.
Keep singing and thanks (y)
 
Good advice here across the board. I do lots of public speaking for work, either presentations or other forums (I chaired a 90-minute Question Time-style event on space robotics in Manchester just last week) and have a few pointers:

- Keep topped up with water. Don't drink alcohol, it dries out your vocal cords. Coffee is ok, but I wouldn't have more than one in case you get the jitters. And don't feel afraid to take a few seconds for that sip of water
- Pay attention to your audience! Even though you're the only one speaking, you are in fact having a conversation, and you can tell how engaged they are.
- remember, they're there to hear you, not offer a critique (although falling asleep during your talk would be a heck of a review). Even if you're nervous, remember there's more good will in the room than you might think. So enjoy it.

But the number one point has been covered by @Biskit - REHEARSE! Know your piece inside out, know where the cadences and nuances are, and it'll be a thousand times easier. Plus, knowing your lines will enable you to watch the audience and keep up with how they're reacting.

But you've got a great voice already, as we know from the Chronscast skits - you'll be just fine, I'm sure :)
 
I chaired a 90-minute Question Time-style event on space robotics in Manchester
Crikey -impressive stuff. Thankfully I won't be handling anything that serious. Appreciate the advice, the second point is the reason I'd like to do this. Writing is nice but feedback is tricky and it'd be great to be able to look people in the eye and see what is working. I did an open mic for writers in the library before, but it was my first story and two weeks before the lockdown so that was that. This time round will be a pub gig and I'm guessing a less forgiving audience so appreciate the tips -everyone is saying practice so it must be important ...the kids are sick of the story already, but there's two weeks more of it to go;)
 
Be sure to report back when it's over
Just reporting back. Thanks for all the advice. My plan was to tell a short story called 'Level Up' but I had second thoughts and went for SF style comedy in the end.
Was good fun if a bit nerve wracking (have linked a clip for anyone who has 5 mins to kill -warning: some bad language;)
 

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