>One is scenes that don't add much to our understanding of the plot or characters. The other is lyrical - or ornate - writing.
I agree with the distinction, but I would phrase it differently. One is poor writing, the other is good writing. And then I would re-phrase my own words thus: one is the stuff that I don't like, the other is the stuff that resonates for me.
That is, there really is good writing and bad writing, but there's also personal preference. With those variables in play, there's plenty of room for someone to like this author's writing and disliking another's, while someone else likes just the opposite. And, of course, at all four points it's more of a quantum cloud than an actual point.
On another thread someone suggested specific examples would help. I think it would help here, too. So long as we speak in generalities, we sort of all agree and all disagree.
One last point. I find I enjoy Bradbury rather less these days. When I was young, I absolutely adored Ray Bradbury. I actually typed out entire chapters (on one of those Actual [tm] typewriters) simply because I loved the words. I have returned to Martian Chronicles and The October Country and other works in the past few years (I'm 71) and while I still appreciate the lyricism, I find myself getting a little impatient. Sometimes it just feels like fireworks. To put another way, the tastes of each individual reader change over the years, making any absolute pronouncements about writing even less reliable.
I agree with the distinction, but I would phrase it differently. One is poor writing, the other is good writing. And then I would re-phrase my own words thus: one is the stuff that I don't like, the other is the stuff that resonates for me.
That is, there really is good writing and bad writing, but there's also personal preference. With those variables in play, there's plenty of room for someone to like this author's writing and disliking another's, while someone else likes just the opposite. And, of course, at all four points it's more of a quantum cloud than an actual point.
On another thread someone suggested specific examples would help. I think it would help here, too. So long as we speak in generalities, we sort of all agree and all disagree.
One last point. I find I enjoy Bradbury rather less these days. When I was young, I absolutely adored Ray Bradbury. I actually typed out entire chapters (on one of those Actual [tm] typewriters) simply because I loved the words. I have returned to Martian Chronicles and The October Country and other works in the past few years (I'm 71) and while I still appreciate the lyricism, I find myself getting a little impatient. Sometimes it just feels like fireworks. To put another way, the tastes of each individual reader change over the years, making any absolute pronouncements about writing even less reliable.