Who Are Television's Most Boring And Uninteresting Characters?

As has been mentioned, there was little to no tension between any of the crew members (which surely must have been virtually impossible given their disparate natures). Any slight disagreements you know would be patched up by the end of the episode.

Wil Wheaton (Wesley Crusher) showed he was more than capable of delivering a good performance when he got a decent script and a story that revolved around him (First Duty).

I would disagree about Guinan though; along with Picard and she was one of the most interesting characters in the whole show.

I think the "no conflict" rule came direct from Roddenberry. He wanted to depict a world where people were united against external conflicts rather than fighting each other. I think this came from his days in the Navy, and was a bit of a hang over from TOS.

Personally, I like it. It made ST different from every other show. When the writing was on point, it was great. Something refreshing amidst shows rife with synthetic forced drama. I so miss it with nu-trek.

Agreed on Guinan.
 
I think the "no conflict" rule came direct from Roddenberry. He wanted to depict a world where people were united against external conflicts rather than fighting each other. I think this came from his days in the Navy, and was a bit of a hang over from TOS.
The problem with that approach is you end up with a show full of boring predicable and uninteresting characters that never really grow and develop. This is why I liked Star trek DS9 better because the character didn't always get along and didn't always do what Roddenberry would have. deemed the right thing.


Personally, I like it. It made ST different from every other show. When the writing was on point, it was great. Something refreshing amidst shows rife with synthetic forced drama. I so miss it with nu-trek.
For the first 3 season the Roddenberry formula worked. For the next 4 seasons, not so much.

Agreed on Guinan.
I actually liked Guinan
 
I think that TOS got it right with just the right amount of friction between Spock, Bones and Kirk. And it worked believably well that science/first officer, captain and chief medical officer would have their personal and professional opinions, but still work together as a team.

The things is that TOS was written more for individual episodes/stories, whereas TNG was closer to a soap opera, with characters personalities developing over several seasons. It doesn't make any sense from any perspective that seven or eight crew members would work and drink and play together with no rubbing up the wrong way. We very rarely even saw the 'mini' jibes that Spock or Bones or Kirk would make.

To this extent, the premise of TNG just wasn't believable, and whilst individual episodes worked very well at times, it was rarely (if ever) because of the development of any character or a building up of a relationship between two.

As Baylor points out, DS9 (which had many faults) was much better in many respects because you could believe the relationships between the characters. Sisko's dislike (perhaps even hatred) of the Maquis wasn't entirely rational, but that's how real people are; they aren't always entirely rational in their objectivity.

As for Guinan, the first time round I saw her in the series it seemed an odd choice, because she didn't fit in with the rest of the crew. Repeated watching made me realise how right a choice she was, for exactly the same reason. There is very much 'the spectator' about her character, and you sense that there is much power and understanding hidden within her, which makes her the polar opposite of Q. I think Whoopi Goldberg is a wonderful actress, and I do think that she is one of the best things about TNG.
 
I always felt that Arthur Dent was a boring guy that the universe has picked out for extraordinary events to happen to.

I can't remember whether it was ever explained why that was.
 
The detective (series) "Vera". A terrible attempt to create a sort of British female Colombo
Script writing stuck in an 80s provincial TV station mode didn't help her.
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Really? 7.5m viewers average per episode, including me, would disagree, I'm afraid. And the only comparison to Colombo that I can see is that they both wear shabby raincoats. :unsure:
 
I'm going to get flack for this I know but The Doctor from Doctor Who got, somewhere mid-Smith, to be the most tedious bore. Attempts to make him seem less boring by surrounding him with even duller companions didn't help.
No flack from me. I watched every Tennant and Smith, was bored and gave up by episode 3 of Capaldi, and watched half of the first Whittaker episode. I can't blame the actors, though - the writing fell off a cliff and took the character with it.
 
I have low, but still some, hopes for the sixtieth anniversary episodes due later this year.
Tennant seems to really enjoy playing the Doctor. I haven't felt that with more recent actors.
 
The problem with modern Doctor Who is that the Doctor is irrelevant to the story. They are just there to explain things to the companions. Modern DW is all about the companions, most of whom were dull as dishwater.

Which is a complete turnabout from the past, when the companions were usually there to ask the questions we wanted answering and to get themselves into trouble so that the Doctor could save them.

There was little to no building of relationships or development of characters, the shows focussed on the story and the acting ability of whoever the Doctor was.

The Doctor has always been larger than life, from the dandy Jon Pertwee to the Bohemian-styled Tom Baker, to the comic Patrick Troughton; there was always something about them, and they were the star of the show. But many of the Doctors now seem just... dull and uninteresting. In part (as Pyan has mentioned) the writing which made Doctor Who the show it was simply isn't there any more, but the person filling the role of the Doctor is just (if not more important).

I would love to have seen Jodie Whittaker get scripts written by the likes of Terrance Dicks, Douglas Adams, Bob Baker and Robert Holmes. I think that she would have been a wonderful Doctor, and it's a pity that a woman wasn't given the chance to take the role much earlier when those writers were still around. Still, we had very strong, interesting female companions such as Romana, Leela and the lovely Jo Grant.
 
I wonder how it would turn out if you took one of the modern doctor actors and remade an original Who story? Say Tennant in Genesis of the Daleks?


It would be interesting to see. of course it won't be as good as the original; how could you improve on Tom Baker? But I'm assuming that the vast majority of people these days wouldn't ever get the chance (or probably would want to watch) a 50 year old programme. So the only way for people to see it would be to remake it.
 
It would be interesting to see. of course it won't be as good as the original; how could you improve on Tom Baker? But I'm assuming that the vast majority of people these days wouldn't ever get the chance (or probably would want to watch) a 50 year old programme. So the only way for people to see it would be to remake it.
Thank heaven for Britbox.
 
The problem with modern Doctor Who is that the Doctor is irrelevant to the story. They are just there to explain things to the companions. Modern DW is all about the companions, most of whom were dull as dishwater.

The old series revolved around that Doctor and, that's why I liked it better then then the new series.
 
The old series revolved around that Doctor and, that's why I liked it better then then the new series.

The old series revolved around the Doctor before he became this galaxy-straddling saviour figure with a magic wand. With great power comes great responsibility.... but it limits the scope for your scriptwriters.
 
The old series revolved around the Doctor before he became this galaxy-straddling saviour figure with a magic wand. With great power comes great responsibility.... but it limits the scope for your scriptwriters.

Sometimes, limitations can be of benefit to story telling and character development . This is just my take.:(
 
Sometimes, limitations can be of benefit to story telling and character development . This is just my take.:(

Yeah, but it does make building any conflict or tension a wee bitty difficult if the audience knows that your hero has a history of finding a new (or at least previously unmentioned) settings on his magic wand sonic screwdriver / sonic sunglasses and - hey presto! "Oh look! we're not all doomed after all."
 
Yeah, but it does make building any conflict or tension a wee bitty difficult if the audience knows that your hero has a history of finding a new (or at least previously unmentioned) settings on his magic wand sonic screwdriver / sonic sunglasses and - hey presto! "Oh look! we're not all doomed after all."
Exactly. The sonic screwdriver went from being an interesting gadget trotted out from time to time, to being a crutch writers rely on in order to solve a plot hole they can't think a way out of themselves.
 

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