Horn of Winter or a horn of the Children of the Forest?

Horn of Winter, Horn of Summer?
Horn of Ice, Horn of Fire?
But then what about the third horn? I don't buy it as a fake, although maybe. That would better explain why the Wildlings weren't told that Mance had it, if he didn't really have it...
Still, I'm looking for another explanation.
 
Firstly, regarding the seige; Manse made a point of stating that it would be easy for the wildlings to climb the Wall in twenty places at once, and just as easy for them to launch boats around the wall and come in from behind. If Stannis did not arrive, the wall would have fallen.

Secondly, I do believe the horn has magical qualities.
 
Oh please, he was sooooo bluffing. The Wall would not have fallen.
Well, not fallen as such, but the Wildlings would have been on the other side, thus defeating the purpose at least where anti-wildling sentiment was concerned.
 
Ygritte told Jon that they had opened graves all across the North looking for the horn but found nothing. I think Mance's horn is a fake, he was bluffing. The horn that Ghost found, currently entrusted to Samwell, is legitimate but I don't think it'll bring down the wall or that it was made by the children of the forest. The children of the forest didn't need horns, they communicated through the trees. So it was probably made by the first men. Also, I think Ghost was able to find the cache because it had the scent of Benjen on it. Uncle Benjen is the man, and he planted it there to be found or to pick it up on the way back from wherever he's gone.

Uncle Benjen, where are you?
 
I just went back and reread this whole thread realizing that a lot of what I just posted had already been said. Sorry about that. I try not to repeat things on the boards and the guys who said it first, Trey Greyjoy, ras'matroi should get full credit for bringing it up.

So Sam has the horn in Oldtown. Sam is a library hound/research machine. The Maester's library would probably have the most extensive resources available chronicling the first men and children of the forest after the Night's Watch library (unavailable, poorly catalogued) and Winterfell (burned down). If the horn's significance is recorded or mentioned in a book somewhere, Sam will find it.
 
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Sam's horn is broken!!! Horn of winter is magical idem a) it is unbreakable or b) if it is breakable way didn’t somebody broke it before (in the past), if B.Stark found HoW he would destroyed it. (If not, way? I would…). So Sam’s horn isn’t HoW.
 
Sam's horn is broken!!! Horn of winter is magical idem a) it is unbreakable or b) if it is breakable way didn’t somebody broke it before (in the past), if B.Stark found HoW he would destroyed it. (If not, way? I would…). So Sam’s horn isn’t HoW.

but how could he tell that it was the horn of winter theres not going to be a big sign saying horn of winter this way and its not like hes going to find out just in case the wall dose come down.
though maybe he did take something from it snap something off maybe thats why nothing happened when it was blown though i dont really think so
 
If B.Stark left the cache himself way would he put in? Contents of the cache: dragon glass and the horn. Dragon glass is useful and the horn isn't. I don't see the logic in saving that horn?? Do you??
 
Jeroam, I make a lot of unfounded and ridiculous posts trying to get to the truth of ASOIAF and people just punch 'em full of holes. So, no malice here, but I have to ask the following...

And hiding such valuable information less than a day's ride from Castle Black? Why would he not have returned it to the Lord Commander and let the Old Bear know of such an important discovery?
 
A thought...if the Horn of Winter can collapse the wall, would it have been crafted after the wall was built? And if that idea can stand would it have been made by the others or the wildings, as I believe it would be safe to say that a Westerosi would want the wall intact? Just musing, haven't fully thought this through.
 
[quoite=Boaz;769547]And hiding such valuable information less than a day's ride from Castle Black? Why would he not have returned it to the Lord Commander and let the Old Bear know of such an important discovery?[/quote]

Fist of first men isn’t less than a day's ride from Castle Black. Fist is a week ride from Castel Black!!!

I think B.Stark didn’t found all that stuff by himself, somebody gave him that and told him all about others and HoW. When he new all the answers he rush to the Castel Black but he was stopped by others on the Fist. But before he was killed he buried the cache in hope somebody from Night Watch will found it (he assumed that NW will camp on the Fist).
Then there is my question: if B.Stark found HoW way didn’t he destroy it??
And here is the answer: it is destroyed (there is a part missing). To function the HoW has to be whole and the missing part is with the person who gave the HoW to him.
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I fully agree with Jeroam that the horn is in oldtown with Samwell. I also agree with him that it was stashed by Benjen (or another crow). Is it functional... a good point, but probably not. Broken is broken. :)

However with all the attention on Kings Landing, when Martin focuses on the wall it will be fantastic. The horn however, I Believe will work to the crows favor, being on the southern tip of westeros. And i have a sneaking suspicion that Samwell unlike Jon survives ASOIAF.
 
Maester Luwin gave him lessons about blowing the horn on his knees, perhaps?

Weird how no one seemed to be offended by this post, perssonnaly i do not see what this post is doing here, unless i mistake the meaning of it.

First time that i am a bit bothered by someone post, perhaps you should frame it :)
 
A believe the tactic is also known as a 'bottleneck'.

The most famous examle being of course Herodotos the Historian's the battle of Thermopyla when king Leonidas and his 300 spartans along 700 thespians held a narrow strip of land against an army of 50,000 persians.

They died to man following a betrayal, but their sacrifice saved Greece.

I thought it was more than 50,000...
 
Well I'm surprised this thread has gone this long without derailing into Jon's parents like 90% of the threads on this board. I haven't gotten quoted this much on a message board since, uhhhmm, yeah, ok, I don't think its ever happened.

Its best if you shift a small gear in your mind and have the voice in your head read the rest of this in its best Jerry Seinfeld impersonation.

So Boaz says, "Heh Jeroam, what's the deal with this horn? Why would you keep something if its obviously broken, unless you know how to fix it. Fix it? These guys can't even figure out what it is. I don't even know what it is. Have you ever noticed that powerful magical items are never where you need them to be? The really frustrating part is that they're not even in the place they were last seen.
'Honey, have you seen my horn of winter?'
'No dear, where's the last place you used it?'
'Well, there was that other rebellion when the wildlings were trying to bring down the wall.'
'Did you give it back to them?'
'No, I thought I put it in the garage.'
'Have you looked a week's ride North? Maybe buried near the Fist?'
'Honey you're not helping! A week's ride away, how the hell would it get there?'
That's the strange part. When something's lost you start by looking in the last place it was seen, but when you do eventually find it, you always see it in the last place you looked."

That was fun to write. I should have been more clear in my last post. This horn in the Ghost cache is not the Horn of Winter. When I wrote that I thought it was legitimate, I meant it was an artifact from the first men, a real clue and not a red herring. The other thing to remember is that Benjen doesn't know what's going on either. He's following a set of clues himself, riding North to solve this ice demon riddle. Its just that he's had a year's head start. If the watch had kept going North I bet there would've been other clues left along the way that would paint a better picture of what's going on. That's not happening. Bran and his little troop will have to be Uncle Benjen's clue finders. Martin does play things close to the vest when it comes to winter. The only thing I'm pretty sure of, is that Benjen is alive, he will return, and when that day comes there will be a reckoning.
 
Benjen alive?? So you say B.Stark was somewhere in the woods, he must now Mance is preparing for attack and he do nothing?
 
ive a thought how do we actually know the horn will actually take down the wall like obviously no one has tested it couldnt it just be an old wifes tale?
 
Others were an old wifes tale,and they do exist. so.... i do believe in HoW.
 

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