superhero showdown 3: Hulk vs superman

[Rosemary]

...a superman has x-ray vision because he can handle it. Are you sure you can handle it?

The ever optomistic Rosey would reply - OF COURSE

 

[kyektulu]

I could handle it cyborg_cinema I am quite wordly despite my lack of years...

 

[cyborg_cinema]

I could handle it cyborg_cinema...

...x-men mutants with x-ray vision should take anger management courses.

 

[cyborg_cinema]

 

[terryweide]

Just happened to see this thread, and I have to admit there's some good chuckles in it...

In regards to the "geek" issue, let us recall that the Hulk's alter ego, Bruce Banner, was often depicted as the proverbial 90 pound weakling or milksop. Therefore I'd say that it would be a toss up in Bruce Banner vs. Clark Kent showdown of geekiness.

Also, there's one issue that doesn't usually get touched on in discussions like thiis, and that is speed. Superman (and the Silver Surfer is another such character), at least the old Superman, was said to be able to fly at faster than light speed. In the old comics, Superman was shown flying between galaxies under his own power. Yes, the Hulk might be able to match Superman in terms of strength, but if a character like Superman or the Surfer is moving at anything approaching their full speed, and they hit a slower moving character, even one of immense strength, I would assume the character moving at light speed would go right through his or her opponent.

Also, in the slug fest depicted above, if Superman is that fast, why is Superman lettting the Hulk hit him in the first place? The only reason, of course, is to please the fans. Put it like this: If I can move at light speed and my opponent can't, I'll just hit him 10,000 or so times before he even starts to move, and we'll see who wins.

Well, those are just my opinions. Terry, over and out...

 

[dreamwalker]

I would assume the character moving at light speed would go right through his or her opponent.

Hahahahah (continues to giggle)
(breathes)
I'm sure the guys at http://www.advancedphysics.org/ would have something to say about that. (something along the lines of, matter loses all coheision, the stong forces that hold moluclues together cease to function and super man turns into atomic goo be the time he reaches the hulk)!
"Maybe the force that keeps his costume from ripping to streads at super sonic speed keeps his molecules together when he goes galaxy hoping, at FTL (faster than light) speeds" Ahahahaha
Sumerban wins, ehem, superman, with FTL travel or not, (heat ray, heat ray!!)

 

[Tim Bond]

they would both lose -
i would use the comics for cleaning windows or worse.
if worth anything i would sell them for sure.

but, if someone is tough and moves at light speed --------------
that 'wins' if anything would.

if the guy --- superman --- shoots lasers, can fly, is super strong, and tough as the strongest steel, and blows hurricanes out his lungs, and can move at the speed of light, don't forget super senses, and hardly needing to breath or stay warm/cool or anything.

why have comics, he could defeat/save anyone hands down long before anyone could even blink and many times over at that.he would never really have any challenges.


unless what happens is that he gets really bored of his own superness
and 'just lets things go' at normal speed 'just to see what they all do'.
maybe he secretly enjoys the look of terror on the faces of the people who he needs to save but decides to be a little less than light-speed with it all. for all his goodness - he could begin to resent all the 'needs' of the people on his life - with all the 'important' emergencies and all.

or
maybe he likes to let his opponent with super strength feel he might 'one-day' accomplish a victory 'if he just could try hard enough' during a fight - instead of just ending it all quick like he could - just to bolster his opponents self-confidence a little before he crushes him completely and so that if not crushed egowise the ‘badman’ at least tries again in a predictable strong-arm test-your-strength fashion.

superman could be super jaded
he could be super-moral/good out of nothing more than boredom

 

[cyborg_cinema]

..."faster than a speeding bullet"—Superman would blow a huge hole through Hulk's chest cavity. Flying so fast—he would be visible—with his fists cutting through the air. A steaming slab of green flesh. A superman clenching a green elephant heart.

 

[Rosemary]

..."faster than a speeding bullet"—Superman would blow a huge hole through Hulk's chest cavity. Flying so fast—he would be visible—with his fists cutting through the air. A steaming slab of green flesh. A superman clenching a green elephant heart.

Do you actually pay money to read or view the films of Superman or The Hulk?

I think Superman would win - more brains than brawn for a start. I didn't realise that he was so bloodythirsty, cyborg.


I like this idea though dreamwalker -
"Maybe the force that keeps his costume from ripping to streads at super sonic speed keeps his molecules together when he goes galaxy hoping, at FTL (faster than light) speeds"

 

[Princess Ivy]

other showdowns continue in the graphic novels board

 

[terryweide]

why have comics, he could defeat/save anyone hands down long before anyone could even blink and many times over at that.he would never really have any challenges.

That's why they invented kryptonite--so it would appear he wasn't unbeatable.

unless what happens is that he gets really bored of his own superness
and 'just lets things go' at normal speed 'just to see what they all do'.
maybe he secretly enjoys the look of terror on the faces of the people who he needs to save but decides to be a little less than light-speed with it all. for all his goodness - he could begin to resent all the 'needs' of the people on his life - with all the 'important' emergencies and all.

or
maybe he likes to let his opponent with super strength feel he might 'one-day' accomplish a victory 'if he just could try hard enough' during a fight - instead of just ending it all quick like he could - just to bolster his opponents self-confidence a little before he crushes him completely and so that if not crushed egowise the ‘badman’ at least tries again in a predictable strong-arm test-your-strength fashion.

superman could be super jaded
he could be super-moral/good out of nothing more than boredom

This is pretty funny--it's also probably true. Terry

 

[terryweide]

P.S. The Hulk's best chance for winning? Hope the gamma radiation that gives him strength acts as a form of kryptonite (after all, Hulk is usually green) and it weakens the "man of steel." Or if gray, hope the "gray" gamma radiation has the same effect as red kryptonite, causing Superman to undergo a weird transformation such as suddenly becoming a baby. I'd say the Hulk might be able to defeat a baby Superman, if said baby didn't crawl away at light speed.

Terry

 

[Tim Bond]

freaky baby!

he still might beat the hulk, if he was hungry

 

[mikeo]

if the guy --- superman --- shoots lasers, can fly, is super strong, and tough as the strongest steel, and blows hurricanes out his lungs, and can move at the speed of light, don't forget super senses, and hardly needing to breath or stay warm/cool or anything.

why have comics, he could defeat/save anyone hands down long before anyone could even blink and many times over at that.he would never really have any challenges.

And this is exactly why I never saw the point in reading Superman - as Terryweide said, they had to invent kryptonite just to make him vaguely interesting. Even that was at least kicked back when (from what I recall) Superman did something or other to destroy all the kryptonite on the Earth.

So anyway, Superman would win, and he'd be boring while he did it. He'd celebrate his victory with a small glass of fat-free milk and a pompous speech about eating your vegetables and getting enough sleep.

The only time I liked having Superman in a comic was in Frank Miller's "The Dark Knight Returns."

 

[cyborg_cinema]

I didn't realise that he was so bloodythirsty, cyborg.

...not bloodthirsty, just pissed.

SkepJ previously mentioned how Superman would fly in a circle above Hulk—aiming his x-ray vision down at the giant snot.

 

[cyborg_cinema]

...90 pound weakling or milksop...

..."milksop", now that's a good one Bruce probably had enough sand kicked into his eyes.

 

[terryweide]

Just call me General "Thuderbolt" Ross. "Where's that milksop, Banner anyway? Bah! What does my daughter see in him? Why doesn't she go out with a real man like Glen Talbot?"

Heh, heh, heh... Terry

 

[Rosemary]

...not bloodthirsty, just pissed.

Well that's even worse then Not even a little trace of Vampire in him? Oh what a shame