Belgarath

[devilsgrin]

don't forget though, that Belgarath's alien appearance is as a result of having had Aldur's features stamped over his throughout their eons of aquaintance. So Belgarath could be literally any of the races. He is clearly not one of the godless ones, as Gara had a temple. Which means he MUST be from one of the seven gods' peoples. Angarak is almost completely impossible, but any other is just as likely as another...though i'd hazard not Nyissan, as their culture was even then swamp based and Gara was not in a swamp

 

[Koopa]

Welll he looks like Aldur, so that is his racial treat

 

[devilsgrin]

aah so whatever he was born as... he is now Aldurian...

 

[aebo06]

Beldin was probably Tolnedran.

No way. He's way too ugly to be of a civilized race.

 

[The Ace]

UL cannot have made the women barren as such, since they discover Mara(?) the women in the slave pens who tells Belgarath and Belgarion that her mum told her she was a Marag....

UL made the women of the godless ones barren after they rejected Gorim (prologue to "Magician's Gambit, and alluded to in the early chapters of BS) Mara's grief probably blinded him to the Marags who were sold into slavery and ended up in Cthol Murgos. The Marags were never barren, but they were believed to have been exterminated by the Tolnedrans. Taiba was descended from those slaves, completely unknown in the West.

 

[The Ace]

Welll he looks like Aldur, so that is his racial treat

In MB, this is touched upon, and again in EEG, both Belgarath and Zedar came to resemble Aldur through their long service as his disciples. On first meeting Zedar, Ce'Nedra thought (briefly) that he was Belgarath.

 

[Talysia]

Does it mention in any of the books when Belgarath was born? I know that his birth was lost in antiquity, but how close was his birth to the time when the gods each took a race of peoples as their own? Especially if the boundaries of each new country hadn't been properly established.

 

[devilsgrin]

as far as it implies, it was not straight after, and it would have been long enough for the racial traits and cultural peculiarities to become apparent. But not quite long enough for humanity to have become generally civilised... melcenes and dals excluded tho...

 

[Talysia]

Ah, thanks for that, Devilsgrin. I haven't read the series in a while, so I wasn't too sure. Maybe I should get the books out again.

 

[Belmakor]

I just finished "Belgarath The Sorcere". I know, I'm running behind. I did read where he was from a village, but the way the village is explained gives no indication that they are marags or the daily life would have been different and the father who scared him off would not have cared about the daughter. So I would have to dismiss the Marag notion. However, the Tolnedran notion is probably what I would consider more along the right lines as Tolnedrans had a status system and a god but were not very religious peoples. So it would make sense that a child would not know who their god was. It also would explain why they looked down on him (other than his thieveing ways). Then ofcourse, over the years, he began to look more and more like his master so he never bore traits of any one race.

Not to mention he could sense gold in the mountains. He also had a hard time pulling himself from it because there was more to be had. My guess is that the Tolnedran side of him wore away with time as he spent more time with Aldur. Assuming ofcourse that he were Tolnedran to begin with.

 

[ghost8772]

I think I'm gonna go metaphysical here. After all there seemed to be many instances where it was mentioned that the world was created to give Garion a place to stand....... once he showed up that is. so how about the village of gara, and its people existed as a place to produce Garath? after all at the end of the age it went bye-bye. Alorn would be my next closest suggestion. He has an active intelligent mind, that doesn't succumb to impetuous action, so not an Arend (toss in how much they set his teeth on edge) he despises drug use, and not to fond of snakes either, so pretty much rules out Nyissan. He was beaten by a girl's father..... which actually rules out Marag, since they were matriarchial... he'd have been beaten by the girl's mother. who cared who her father was as long as he was good looking and muscular? Tolnedrans? They set his teeth on edge at sixteen for being haughty and materialistic, but they were also his first experience with money, Since Gara had none, that is a second argument against him being Tolnedran. Angarak? not no, but unh-uh, no sacrifices in Gara at all.
Since Belar was a party animal, as well as wanting to be "big brother" instead of ruler over his people, it fits more closely than any other gods' peoples. This does not rule out him being a Dal possibly, but I think he addressed, and ruled out, the possibility of him being a Morind or Karand early on.