Avoid These Movies At All Costs!

[Alysheba]

As for the Star Wars prequels, there was another actor up for the role Christensen ended up with and that was Jonathan Jackson. Of course he's a soap actor (plays Lucky Spencer on General Hospital) and probably not given enough credit because of that) but he is a very good actor and can show a lot of emotion which I think Hayden kind of lacks that in a lot of those scenes.

 

[Casshern]

Hayden lacked everything.. they could have gotten a puppet of him to play the part, and it'd convey more emotion.

its a pity they didnt keep the lil kid, christopher Lloyd was it?, as Anakin Douchewalkr

 

[Casshern]

i just remembered films to avoid.. HIGHLANDER 2+.. the first one was epic, the music is the best ever.. A Kind of Magic.. it even had a classic sean connery scottish sounding spaniard routine..

but teh second one turn the premise from a bunch of immortals.. to exiled aliens.. and then time travel mixed in.. then a tv series where connor dies and that he wasnt the only one left because he has a cousin and theres 3 new bad guys.. it just went from bad to worse..

also it was Raiden himself, Christopher Lambert.. with his sexuality changing deep gravely voice..

ive seen someone mention MKII a while back.. ever seen conquest? it makes MKII look like the mona lisa

 

[Alysheba]

They ruined the Highlander films. It made no sense what so ever after the first one. I have to admit that I did love the series. The last one was atrocious.

 

[Casshern]

well move aside bad movie 6.. they are making 789 and 10 as we speak.. they are filming all four at once for a direct to dvd boxset xD

 

[Parson]

The Fifth Element was such utter rubbish! I can't believe that I saw it.

 

[Culhwch]

I did not at all find the Matrix watchable in any way. I'd rather rip out my prostate with a noodle spoon than watch any Keanu Reeves movie anymore.

Even Bill and Ted's???????

 

[clovis-man]

The Fifth Element was such utter rubbish! I can't believe that I saw it.

Whoa! Careful with that axe, Eugene!

I've seen a lot of bad SF movies in my day. But this wasn't one of them. Lots of minor quibbles one could get hung up on: (1) Bruce Willis (2) Bruce Willis' mother (3) Chris Tucker, etc.

But the thrust of the story and the tongue in cheek delivery was highly entertaining. And the film editing and scene cuts added greatly to the pace of the film. Gary Oldman was great and the space thugs were hilarious. Ian Holm supplied his usual impeccable character portrayal. Etc. Etc.

Just my opinion.

 

[Culhwch]

I'd agree with that assesment, Clovis, though Chris Tucker absolutely **** me to tears...

 

[Parson]

Sorry, the axe must stay!!!! The Fifth Element makes me gag every time I even think about it, and that nearly pornographic outfit the female lead wore brings it to mind much, much, too often. It had all kinds of wildly improbable violence. The aliens were laughable. I don't do tongue in cheek well at all, especially when it is played as if it were a real story.

 

[Sparrow]

whoa, I thought The Fifth Element was pretty damn entertaining.
It was over-the-top campy science fiction done pulp style, and it worked because there wasn't any lofty pretensions to do otherwise.

I can't imagine anyone taking that movie seriously when as it turns out the savior of the world is a down on his luck taxi driver.

 

[Rodders]

Yeah, the Fifth Element is just a SF fun romp. It doesn't even take itself seriously let alone ask the viewer to.

 

[Parson]

As far as I remember The Fifth Element was not advertised as a campy cartoon, think the Batman TV series. It was promoted like it was something really wonderful like Star Wars. (Originally 1 and now 4 in the series.)

 

[Sparrow]

typical review of the movie... Ancient curses, all-powerful monsters, shape-changing assassins, scantily-clad stewardesses, laser battles, huge explosions, a perfect woman, a malcontent hero--what more can you ask of a big-budget science fiction movie? Luc Besson's high-octane film incorporates presidents, rock stars, and cab drivers into its peculiar plot, traversing worlds and encountering some pretty wild aliens. Bruce Willis stars as a down-and-out cabbie who must win the love of Leeloo (Milla Jovovich) to save Earth from destruction by Jean-Baptiste Emmanuel Zorg (Gary Oldman) and a dark, unearthly force that makes Darth Vader look like an Ewok. --Geoff Riley

Since The Fifth Element was pretty well received by critics and moviegoers alike, and made tons of money at the box office and as a dvd rental, I think most people "got it". Likewise, StarWars wasn't promoted as the next 2001, A Space Odyssey, or anything that highfalutin. I think many of us have very fond memories of StarWars, but looking back on it, the movie wasn't as good as Blade Runner or Alien... which both were promoted as serious sf.

I think most peoples expectations were that The Fifth Element would be good old fashioned sf, just with way better special effects.

 

[Connavar]

The Fifth Element is one of few SF films in last decades i can enjoy and respect.

Visually very good looking too. Luc Besson is always cool.

You cant diss a movie because you heard the hype that compared it to Star Wars....

 

[Parson]

I cannot believe what I am reading! Fiifth Element was trash!!! There were no redeeming ideas. I mean come on, who could believe that ending!

Give me Star Wars any day over either Blade Runner or Alien. Alien was a good movie, blade runner was far too dark for me even to think about watching. I want a movie which has serious heroes, fighting impossible odds, willing to make any sacrifice. If you can throw in some social comment and a real moral sense, I'm there. Which is why the original Star Wars was so much better than any of those which followed.

My opinion, which might not be a majority opinion, but l am right as far as I am concerned, and I will continue to tell one and all avoid Fifth Element like the plague itself.

 

[Culhwch]

The plague gets a bad rap. Look, if you expect it to be serious and meaningful, you're not going to get anything from it, but if you take the Black Death in the light-hearted spirit in which it was intended... Sorry, couldn't resist.

I'm with you on Blade Runner, Parse. I never really saw anything in that film worth the praise it gets. Some arresting visuals, maybe, but outside of that...

 

[Sparrow]

Parson ~Give me Star Wars any day over either Blade Runner or Alien. Alien was a good movie, blade runner was far too dark for me even to think about watching. I want a movie which has serious heroes, fighting impossible odds, willing to make any sacrifice. If you can throw in some social comment and a real moral sense, I'm there. Which is why the original Star Wars was so much better than any of those which followed.

StarWars, social comment... what?
The only social commentary StarWars ever made was that the good guys wear white, and the bad guys wear black; and it may have taken place a long time ago, in a galaxy far far away, but it sure seemed alot like one of those old pirate movies from the 1930s. Does anyone really indentify with Luke Skywalker or Han Solo?.. what lessons can two castrated cartoon characters repeating fortune cookie wisedom possibly bestow on an otherwise jaded and corrupt world?

No please, give me Charlton Heston in Planet of the Apes and all his misogynistic glory, that was a man.

 

[Winters_Sorrow]

I've probably mentioned it before but I still regard "The Descent" by Neil Marshall as one of the worst movies ever made. Ill-prepared potholers go into a previously unexplored cave and die. I won't even go into the whole "was it a dream or not?" crappy ending but the film itself had bad characters doing stupid things (not having any food and water with them, using poorly maintained equipment, wearing inappropriate clothing - "hell yes, we always go clambering through small caverns underground in hot pants!") but were supposedly 'experienced' in their hobby. Really??

Anyway that crapfest was preceeded by another hackney lot of tripe known as Dog Soldiers and the so bad it was almost funny Doomsday. Everytime someone mentions how we should support the "British Film Industry" I point to Neil Marshall & Guy Richtie as living proof on just how bad it is. So I regard those three movies as possibly the biggest pile of steaming excrement served to the british public in the last 20 years. And what riles me even more is how much money they made and were lauded by some critics as a breath of fresh air!! Awful director, derivative straight-to-video scripts and smug, lazy storytelling which makes no attempt to paper over the cavernous plot holes in his movies.

Phew! I feel better

 

[Parson]

Sparrow, I did not mean that Star Wars had social relevance, although what I said could have been construed that way. I meant to say that if you were making the ideal movie for me, it would have that. If I were to talk about my all time favorite SF movie it would be Charlie (from the book Flowers for Algernon). But for me Star Wars a breath of fresh air in a 60's and 70's and to a large degree today with anti-heroes, the people who are supposed to be the good guys the bad guys, families derided, religion mocked and bad stuff without end.