Who gets Dawn?

[Werthead]

Blood of the Dragon is the online roleplaying sub-forum of the official Westeros.org forum. Nothing that happens in it is canon.

Dawn is currently in Starfall where it is guarded by loyal bannermen and soldiers of House Dayne. No-one in the current Dayne generation has proven themselves worthy to wield it yet.

GRRM confirmed this a few years ago. It's in the SSM somewhere and no, I'm not going to go through the hundreds of entries to find it

 

[Aegon the Unworthy]

Which absolutely begs the obvious question....

Why didnt we just ask Wert in the first place?

 

[MrWright]

I had always assumed that Dawn ended up being renamed into Ice and passed to the victor at the Tower of Joy...

...and thus was passed to Ilyn Payne...

...and given to Tywin Lannister; to be forged into Lion's Tooth and Oathkeeper.


Woooo 1st Post Hi everyone!

 

[Boaz]

Welcome! It's about time you showed up. I have a couple of friends who've been looking for you for years.

 

[MrWright]

Welcome! It's about time you showed up. I have a couple of friends who've been looking for you for years.

Hahaha....hopefully they're young and gorgeous

 

[Aegon the Unworthy]

Dude I am so sorry...I have so slept with your wife or sister and changed my mind in the morning. Or maybe it was your mom....

Regardless, I didnt call em back the next day so can I get your sister, wife or mothers phone number? Just kidding...I think.

Anyhow, one thing I do know for certain is Dawn is not Valyrian Steel but rather metal forged from a fallen star....coolness huh? But Ice, Lions Tooth, Oathkeeper all were Valyrian steel....so that idea is shot

 

[Werthead]

Ice has been in House Stark's possession for 400 years or so, I think an ancestor of House Stark's went to Valyria to get it before the Doom. At the moment I'm trying to remember where the hell I read that though. I really need to produce some kind of annotated SSM though. It's a fantastic resource but almost impossible to find what you want buried amongst the hundreds of entries in there.

Ned Stark took Dawn back to Starfall and gave it to Lady Ashara Dayne. We can assume from in-book evidence that the sword is still there, unless Ashara threw herself and the sword into the sea, but there's no mention of that.

It's worth noting that Darkstar seems pretty cheesed off at not being the new Sword of the Morning in AFFC, to the extent of deliberately taking a nickname in opposition to it.

 

[Charming Serpent]

Isnt that what I said?

 

[MemmoN]

Darkstar will probably get his hands on the Valyrian blade Nightfall. Some Iron island lord has it as of now but will probably fall in battle. If Jon is a Dayne he will get Dawn and pass on Longclaw to Rickon and it become the ceremonial sword of house Stark. I think Jon will kill Darkstar with Dawn in some Epic battle in the last book.

 

[Boaz]

Hahaha....hopefully they're young and gorgeous

Not anymore.

I don't know when Valyria flourished (I need Wert's help for this), but my guess is between 2,000 years to 350 years before Aegon's conquest of Westeros. So, the Starks most likely acquired Ice before the Doom. Wert's comment about 400 years seems good to me.

 

[Werthead]

Valyria rose to power 5,000 years ago and grew to encompass the south-central regions of the eastern continent, namely the Valyrian Peninusla, the Lands of the Long Summer and, after several major wars, Slaver's Bay. Valyria then seems to have enjoyed an exceptionally long period of stability which ended 1,000 years ago when the Freehold unexpectedly advanced westwards to the coast of the Narrow Sea, displacing the Rhoynar to Westeros and then conquering or founding what are now the Free Cities before colonising Dragonstone at least 100 years before the Doom, probably longer.

It's difficult to know when Valyria was at it's 'height', but it was probably during that long period of peace, before the Valyrians became expansionist and power-hungry.

 

[Boaz]

You da man.