The Jack McDevitt Thread

creslin_black said:
3001: The Final Oddyssey and Time's Eye
You're talking about 1) A book widely considered among the worst of Clarke's career, and 2) one of his collaborations, which are widely panned, if not ignored outright, by Clarke fans. Respectfully, those are two of the very worst examples of Clarke's work you could have picked. Neither prepresent his work very well.

Rendezvous With Rama (ignore all sequels), 2001: A Space Odyssey, Childhood's End, Songs Of A Distant Earth, The Sands Of Mars, Imperial Earth, his short story collections, all are worthwhile. Avoid anything he wrote with another author like the plague.

So go ahead with Childhood's End, says I!
 
I discovered Jack McDevitt about two years ago and have since read everything I could find that he has published. He is one of my favorite modern authors and I would recommend any of his books. For anyone that is interested he will be appearing at Con*Stellation XXV : Cygnus in Huntsville Alabama on October 20-22 along with David Drake and Glen Cook.
 
If you are going to give Clarke another try, I would suggest Rendezvous with Rama if you favor works that , which are very good, The Fountains of Paradise is another one that I recommend.
 
Wrapped up reading McDevitt’s Infinity Beach a few days back and really enjoyed the twists on a “first contact” novel. Part mystery, part ghost story, part speculative fiction, it kept the pages turning the whole way through. Drags a tad right in the middle and a bit at the very start, but you’re always compelled to see how the mystery unfolds. Good stuff.

The only unread McDevitt I have left on my selves is Moonfall. I think I’ll probably end up buying and reading Polaris before I get to that, though.

Oh, and a fifth Hutch book is set for release in December. Doesn’t appear as if it’s picking up on the Omega Clouds story, but instead going off to do its own thing.
 
I am in the middle of Polaris and enjoying it a lot. I was hooked on the story within the first few pages. I think I have a pretty good idea where the plot is going at this point, but it still an enjoyable read.
 
Good to hear, Razor. I'm about 100 pages into a Greg Bear book right now (Anvil Of Stars) and frankly, it's beginning to bore me. I'm strongly considering putting it back on the shelf and moving on to something else. Polaris is on my short list.
 
I did not care much for Anvil of Stars either. I thought be first one, The Forge of God, was okay. The story was a bit predictable for a mystery, but Polaris was still a much better read. It may not be his best, but it is a solid read.
 
I just finished reading The Engines of God as my first Jack McDevitt book. It features humans with normal lifespans without any augmentations. It features those humans going out and doing things across interstellar distances in a high-tech future. There's been no Singularity. It's written in a straight-forward manner. It clocks in at 419 pages in my paperback edition rather than 700 or a 1000. And, not meaning to be offensive but, since it seems Americans don't write SF any more, McDevitt has the bonus of being American. (It seems like books used to have spelling and punctuation converted when transported across the pond but don't seem to these days.)

So everything should be just exactly perfect. Except I didn't much care for it. It starts off with a brief scene and then goes into a larger section in which 20 names are thrown at me and only a couple matter. Then it seems to wander from chunk to chunk until it ends in an unsatisfying manner. In researching the author further, I come across comments from him like:

What were the omega clouds?

I must confess I had no idea. Nor did I think it was important, or even wise, to reveal a source. They were far more interesting as simply an enigmatic presence in a universe that grows more complex, more subtle, and more mysterious, with every revelation. To explain what they were was to reduce them to the mundane, rather like an asteroid or a dwarf star, and thereby deprive them of their exotic nature.

To me, those are the words of a man who has no business writing science fiction. I enjoyed some of the X-Files for a few seasons but that's not what I want in my SF reading. If he thinks asteroids and dwarf stars are "mundane" and not "exotic" then we just aren't speaking the same language. If more interest and wonder and excitement doesn't derive from understanding, but from some fuzzy metaphysical hand-wavium and he's just stringing readers along with nonsense... well, again, that's not why I read SF.

I hear many references to McDevitt and mystery, but mysteries have a solution and the delight is in either working it out yourself or marvelling at the author's (or his protagonist's) cleverness in working it out. There's no mystery if there's no solution - there's just nonsense with the appearance of a mystery.

In searching this site for this author, I came across a thread about "Authors you wish you liked" and I think McDevitt is one. As I say, he's got all the elements I cited in this book as just about the perfect thing I'd want to read but I was unimpressed with the exposition, plotting, and "ending".

Of his remaining books, the Alex Benedict series sounds interesting but I'm not willing to try another series. Of the independent ones, Eternity Road sounds interesting except I'm afraid the main society would be too technologically primitive to appeal to me. It would depend on how it was handled, I guess. And Infinity Beach sounds interesting but might be too "regressive" for me. I'm not sure what the actual thrust or point of that one is, but it sounds like an interesting dilemma.

Anyway - those are my impressions, positive and negative. I know no one can answer for me but I'd be interested if anyone thought I should give him another try or give up. And, if another try, are one of the two I mentioned good avenues, or should I try another approach?
 
I'd forgotten I'd posted the 2008 post above. Despite what I said, I did end up giving A Talent for War a try and actually liked it just fine, or a whole lot, or somewhere between. If memory serves, I'd picked up Eternity Road at the last library book sale I went to, apparently a couple-three years ago but didn't read it until now. (In the meantime, I'd already picked up some more McDevitt at this year's book sale.)

Anyway - I'd say that, between Talent and Eternity, they've washed out the negativity produced by The Engines of God. It's more remarkable to me because Eternity is set unspecified centuries after a plague (which took place unspecified years from our present) has wiped out almost the entire human race and turned its civilization into ruins and myths. A band of travelers gather to go on the traditional quest structure in a "second expedition" after the secretive sole survivor of the first dies and his belongings stir up old mysteries. I had to forcibly remind myself that these characters were not hobbits. So topically, it's not my cup of tea and, formally/structurally, it's rather conventional. But something about it kept me quite interested and I enjoyed reading it quite a bit. I liked the characters and thought they were drawn well enough and there was much description which usually bores me but seemed well done here and I liked the resolution - the whole final leg of the journey and the last crisis were particularly appealing to me. Most of all, perhaps, I liked the perspective. There are many ways in which the scenario just doesn't hold water in detail but I liked the way our near-future looked as their distant-past and how their present looked as a point in our far future - and particularly their future, itself. Despite the conventional fantasy-like quest, it was an unconventional "post-apocalypse" or "far future" story. I dunno - not great, but good - definitely worth reading and I can see taking that journey again someday.
 
I also read A Talent for War a year or so ago, and really liked it. I've also read Infinity Beach and enjoyed that too - though the two books did seem stangely similar. I'm rather surprised at the lack of comment or interest in Jack Mcdevitt on the forums tbh. He's a much better writer, imho, than many other authors (e.g. Bujold) who garner a large number of posts and threads.
 
I read The Hercules Text years ago, and I rather enjoyed it, though the premise (signal from space turns out to be instructions to build a machine) had been done to death. It wasn't anywhere near as good as Hoyle's A for Andromeda, but it was a decent book.
 
A Talent for War I bought in paperback and then went and bought it in hardback, because I thought it was that good. Wish I had written it.

Since that time, Jack McDevitt has become one of only four authors who I buy all there new books in hardback as soon as they come out.
 
I also read A Talent for War a year or so ago, and really liked it. I've also read Infinity Beach and enjoyed that too - though the two books did seem stangely similar. I'm rather surprised at the lack of comment or interest in Jack Mcdevitt on the forums tbh. He's a much better writer, imho, than many other authors (e.g. Bujold) who garner a large number of posts and threads.

I've noticed your dislike of Bujold elsewhere - glad I'm not alone in being mystified by her popularity/success. (Not that either of us are saying she's awful, I don't think, but just not anyone who ought to stick out of the pack.)

I'm also kind of surprised at the lack of McDevitt activity.

I read The Hercules Text years ago, and I rather enjoyed it, though the premise (signal from space turns out to be instructions to build a machine) had been done to death. It wasn't anywhere near as good as Hoyle's A for Andromeda, but it was a decent book.

Sounds good - I was thinking about picking that up if my interest in him holds and I come across it - that's encouraging.
 
I have read plenty of scifi although I prefer fantasy and I have read Polaris and Seeker and liked them. Good mysteries.
 
I finished Eternity Road last night. I liked the book overall, though as "quest" novels go, I didn't feel it was as tight and well plotted as some. I think I prefer McDevitt's novels set in space. For those not familiar with the book, it's a post apocalypse (plague) novel, set about 2000 years in the future, with mankind basically at a pre-industrial stage still. The journey up through the US countryside is interesting, and I liked trying to workout where they were on a present day map. His Benedict books are better IMHO.
 
I have read lots of McDevitt, and have quite enjoyed it as undemanding escapism. I do not think he is in the same league as Clarke.
The latest Alex Benedict was completely flat and a big disappointment. It felt as though the author had become bored with the idea and was simply going through the motions of getting a book written.
 
I just reread your comments on the same book, J-Sun. This sentence is scarily clever, or unwittingly, extremely apposite! I'm going to credit you with the former :).

Yes, yes, the former of course. ;)

What, me unwitting?
 

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