Sansa

AryaUnderfoot said:
I don't know if Arya would kill Sansa. Hopefully by the time they meet up again, they'll be mature enough to forgive each other for mistakes made when they were children.
Mature enough to forgive childish mistakes, you mean like Sandor... and Cersei, and Viserys, and Tyrion, and Lysa, and Aeron, and Stannis...

I, Brian, Arya would want to kill Sansa for betraying their father to his death, for lying about Joff's attack on Mycah, for not caring that Mycah was killed, and for being prettier, more accomplished, and better liked by everyone. Perhaps, also for joining Littlefinger and the Lannisters in their plans against House Stark just to save her own skin.

Sansa, on the other hand, might want to kill Arya for ruining her relationship with Joffrey (thus ruining her chance to be Queen of the Seven Kingdoms and have a fantasy life) and for getting Lady killed. Though I think that Sansa will fully realize, if she does not already, that her life as Queen would have been hell and that Cersei is to blame for Lady, not Arya.
 
Boaz said:
Mature enough to forgive childish mistakes, you mean like Sandor... and Cersei, and Viserys, and Tyrion, and Lysa, and Aeron, and Stannis...

The difference, though, is that Arya is currently in training that none of these people ever experienced. I think that in learning how to kill, she will be taught the value of life as part of her training. She is already being punished for her act of violence towards the singer.

Unlike Sandor, Cersei, Viserys, Tyrion, and Aeron, Arya and Sansa were raised in a much tighter family unit, a loving one. They were not tortured, lied to, disrespected, hated... They are not given the encouragement to develop egotistical, conniving, jealous personalities. And they do not lust for power. Sansa's desire to be a queen seems to be related instead to her romantic nature and her wish to live the life of a character in a song.

Sansa is in danger of becoming manipulative and calculating, like her mentor. But the warmth that her character has previously shown indicates to me that she is unlikely to become as cold as Littlefinger.
 
Arya isn't necessarily being punished. It could be that once she killed someone, it was realized that she was ready to begin her training and the blindness is part of this.
 
You made me curious, so I went back and reread the passage where she tells the old man about killing Dareon. Couldn't get anger out of it. He just orders the warm milk for Arya, who was back unexpectedly.
 
Of course he wouldn't show anger, unless he wanted her to see him angry and make her suspicous. I too think it was a punishment, I'll copy and paste real quick what I wrote in anoher thread about it:I thought Arya's blindness was a temporary thing, don't get me wrong I wouldn't be very surprised if it were permanent, the kindly man for being kindly definetely has it in him and likely wouldn't think much of it. But still I thought it was a punishment for killing Dareon (The bard, I think that was his name), if she hadn't been able to see she wouldn't likely have been able to seek out the Beggarmans dock (or whatever it was called) where other people spoke her native tongue, she also wouldn't have been able to see Sam and Dareon's back clothes and wouldn't have identified them as she had as brothers of the nights watch and then she most likely wouldn't have killed him. But still there is a flaw, I am not sure she will still be able to sell her oysters and stuff anymore nor cast off the boat every morning as she had been accustomed to doing. Now at least she will be forced to learn the new language in order to survive really. I hope this all makes sense, words have a way of failing me sometimes.
I also have to agree on many points with AryaUnderfoot about Sansa, my view on her is she has been through so much and brutallized by one she once admired and thought she loved (Joffrey), these experiences have made her retreat so far into herself is it any wonder she does what she's told? Her beauty making every man want to rape her hasn't helped much either. Once she breaks free of her shell though she will be one to reckon with, even in ASOS her potential is beginning to surface, soon she will surpass Littlefinger at manipulation of people and keeping secrets. About her revealing Ned's plans, how could she know it would lead to his death, she was told very little and had not yet seen behind the masks Cersei and Joffrey showed her. She reminds me a lot of Malt (or something similar to that from Robin Hobb's Liveship books, she starts out a spiteful brat but through hardship develops into a loyal and stong woman). Besides how long do you think she would have lived had she benn as rebellios and headstrong as Arya, Joffrey would have tortured her all the more to break her spirit and Cersei probably would have had her killed or maimed to break her dads.
 
Of course Sansa couldn't of known that her actions would have such dire consequences but Arya was already sour on Sansa before everything went down and she is no longer just a little girl but someone who kills others with no guilt.
 
I don't think Arya's blindness is a punishment, just another part of her training. Although her emotions led to the death of Dareon don't forget what spawned those emotions, she learned from her father that those who left the wall and broke their oaths deserved death. It is an ideal that is engrained upon her. I see her killing Dareon as carrying out justice, not only that but she carried it our without hesitation, and that I believe signified the old man to continue her training.
 
Perhaps "punishment" was the wrong word for me to choose. For the sake of the nit-pickers:) (such as myself), please allow me to rephrase:

What I was trying to imply was that, as a result of Arya's impetuous decision to kill the singer, the Old Man seemed to choose a more extreme method of teaching her a lesson, for she obviously had ignored certain previous teachings of his.
 
Do you suppose Martin will explain the reason behind Arya's blindness in later books (can't wait)? Going by similar situations in other books in training assassins, they all seem to include training in pitch dark so that you have to rely on senses other than sight.
 
Regarding the relationship between Sansa and Arya, I think Sansa would be overjoyed to be reunited with her sister but Arya's reaction is hard to predict especially if she continues with her training-which I do not aprove of solely because one of the main requirements is to give up your personality and all that you are to the god with many faces and I love Arya as a character and don't want her to lose anything-but I think Arya would also be glad to see her sister again because it would a little something of home again, before the sh*t hit the fan.
 
You must not forget, once Arya completes her training she will no longer be Sansa's sister. If Arya meets Sansa again, it will not be a chance meeting, and it would not bode well for Sansa or perhaps someone close to her. The real question is if Sansa were to meet Arya again, would she even notice that it was her.
 
True, but my idealistic self can't quit hoping for a rebuilding of Winterfell and a big happy reunion, oh well...
 
After becoming a Faceless Man, Arya will be hired by the Lannister's to kill Sansa, the resurfaced heir of Winterfell...
 

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