Cersei's champion

[BlueJimmie]

#1 It wasn't my idea, that would be Thoheeks Bili.

#2 I'd hardly call it a theory since that requires imperical evidence and we are talking about a fantasy novel.

#3 kiwi, you were speculating just like Thoheeks Bili. There is no scene describing Kevan viewing his brother's body after it left Kings Landing. Qyburn may well have replaced his carcass with an assortment of other people's body parts or dead puppies - we just don't know, which is why speculating about it is F-U-N.

#4 To imply that others here don't think before they write is awfully arrogant and ignorant. It would seem you suffer from the same deficiency you have labled others with.

 

[Koopa]

We all do from time to time.

Actually a theory need not be based on actual evidence, just some clues at most

We have proof however of Cersei regard, we have proof of the silent sisters(previous dead cases) and we have prove of the fact that Kevan brought back his brothers corpse. Now i can understand why some wish to speculate about Tywin head being on Frankengregor, but that does not mean i cannot point out the farfetchfulness of it, when all logic makes it seem unlikely.

If there was no one saying that certain theories go to far, we'd end up with with things like The moon and the sun will come alive as symbols of ice and fire and battle it out for eternal night and day

I have been posting to much this last weeks, too much free time on my hands atm

 

[MOUNTAIN THAT READS]

ahhhhh........ new avatar same old kiwi (smiles sadly as yet another possibly entertaining thread is killed) OK while I agree that Tywin's head on UnGregors body is far fetched. Let's not forget that we have a while before the next book and if we don't explore some farfetched idea's this would be a very quiet forum. I have thrown out several myself that have been crushed rather completely but it is fun to play what if. Let's just try to remember just because someone throws out an idea (in a FANTASY forum) it doesn't mean that they are stating it as fact. Sometimes, they are just trying to have fun.
In closing CAN"T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG.lol

ingnorantly and obtusely yours

Mountain that Reads


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[Thoheeks Bili]

FFFfffffffffssssssssssstttt...........cough, hack.................(slowly exhale).................ahhhhhhhhhh.
I am just throwing fuel on the fire Kiwi, and as I am one of the unfortunate few who HAVENT read AFFC, I feel slightly.............dizzy..........oh, that's just the bongs effects.lol

It's on the way though, can't wait till it get's here!!!!!

I never did post..........It's a fact. It is known.

My axe...............quickly!

 

[Koopa]

You people see me as that menacing?

Perhaps i should go visit a shrink

 

[BlueJimmie]

You people see me as that menacing?

Perhaps i should go visit a shrink

Not really. You're Belgian. It's us Americans that are menacing.

 

[Koopa]

many of you are way too fanatic about certain issues (weird religious beliefs--> with snakes, and so on) indeed, you are not doing well in your war against terrorism though

 

[TomServo]

I think there is a thread called impossible things that will never happen, this disscussion should go there. Then you can tell kiwi to blow it out his backside (kidding of course ) because the theory would be perfectly valid on that thread.

 

[MOUNTAIN THAT READS]

many of you are way too fanatic about certain issues (weird religious beliefs--> with snakes, and so on) indeed, you are not doing well in your war against terrorism though

*continues to shake head sadly*

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[TK-421]

What was that part about shrinking...

Anyways, Cersei has a champion and it's Lollys.

 

[Lady Blackfyre]

What was that part about shrinking...

Anyways, Cersei has a champion and it's Lollys.

Don't be absurd! It's Moon Boy.

 

[Koopa]

*continues to shake head sadly*

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I dont get it..

Americans cannot deny that they have plenty of weird cultist sekts.
And that Irak and Afghanistan are not what you would call peaceful, North Korea is lego'ing along as well with their A-bombs.

 

[Boaz]

Let me try to get us back on topic.

As crazy as this sounds, I agree with Kiwi. I know he and are are opposites on a number of views, but I somehow doubt that Tywin's head is on Gregor's body.

First, Cersei pays Qyburn. When she sees Tywin's head on Gregor's body, it'll take her all of two seconds to replace it with Qyburn's.

Second, Jaime and Kevan respected Tywin. If Cersei was somehow drunk enough to tell Qyburn to put Tywin's head on Gregor, then Kevan and Jaime would kill Cersei and her children.

 

[Culhwch]

Though I'm sure it's not meant with any kind of venom, can we keep the political and national sniping to a minimum? And by minimum I mean zero.

I agee, Boaz. Qyburn is too cunning by far to be be stupid enough to make a Tywinstein.

 

[Aegon the Unworthy]

Let me try to get us back on topic.

As crazy as this sounds, I agree with Kiwi. I know he and are are opposites on a number of views, but I somehow doubt that Tywin's head is on Gregor's body.

First, Cersei pays Qyburn. When she sees Tywin's head on Gregor's body, it'll take her all of two seconds to replace it with Qyburn's.

Second, Jaime and Kevan respected Tywin. If Cersei was somehow drunk enough to tell Qyburn to put Tywin's head on Gregor, then Kevan and Jaime would kill Cersei and her children.

Thats the price you pay when you make your points in a disagreeable and advesarial fashion....the actual information is lost in the chaff.

You always got to ask yourself who gains from the particular action. I cant really see any reason why it would be done, unless Qyburn has some previously undiscovered backstory. And yes there are a whole lot of reasons why it would get him killed. Heck with the way Cersei defends Tywin on occasion Im pretty sure she would have the Q killed for such an act herself.

I dont know....its as valid an idea of most of mine....

 

[Funky Cthulu]

Thats the price you pay when you make your points in a disagreeable and advesarial fashion....the actual information is lost in the chaff.

I dont know....its as valid an idea of most of mine....

Well said, Aegon.
Never say never in the fantasy genre, but it reminds me of that movie version of Frankenstein, with Kenneth Branagh and Helena Bonham Carter - when Helena wakes up (after having her heart ripped out), with her head sewed onto her friends body, screams in horror and sets herself on fire - "I don't want to live like this" sorta thing. But I suspect Tywin would just make sure that other people couldn't live with it, instead.
Or maybe we'll start to see heads in jars, Futurama style...

 

[Boaz]

Or maybe we'll start to see heads in jars, Futurama style...

Futurama? I thought that was The Man With Two Brains. The line, I couldn't **** a gorilla! is one of the all time best. Heads in jars in Qyburn's laboratory means Miss Uumellmahaye's galore.

I ask you guys, does the undead Mountain even need a head?

 

[Funky Cthulu]

Futurama? I thought that was The Man With Two Brains. The line, I couldn't **** a gorilla! is one of the all time best. Heads in jars in Qyburn's laboratory means Miss Uumellmahaye's galore.

I ask you guys, does the undead Mountain even need a head?

Perhaps to see where he is going - unless he has a brilliant sense of smell (also difficult without a head) and can sense his foes that way.

 

[Boaz]

Ummm, yeah, well I concede that most of the senses are located in the head. And humans desperately need heads to function. But I guess I was thinking unGregor was more of some kind of magically or demonically animated construct. I was thinking less in terms of Frankenstein and more interms of a puppet.

We don't really know all of Qyburn's powers, but ascribing magician, shaman, druid, or demonic conduit status to him is going well beyond the realm of facts. So I guess I was advocating some sort of crackpot theory. Sorry, it's second nature to me. I'm glad you guys are here to call me on that stuff.

 

[Funky Cthulu]

Ummm, yeah, well I concede that most of the senses are located in the head. And humans desperately need heads to function. But I guess I was thinking unGregor was more of some kind of magically or demonically animated construct. I was thinking less in terms of Frankenstein and more interms of a puppet.

We don't really know all of Qyburn's powers, but ascribing magician, shaman, druid, or demonic conduit status to him is going well beyond the realm of facts. So I guess I was advocating some sort of crackpot theory. Sorry, it's second nature to me. I'm glad you guys are here to call me on that stuff.

No worries I liked QC's suggestion, ages ago, that the 'unusually large' head sent by Qyburn in a chest was actually Robert Baratheon's head. Delicious irony!