Are all new stories endless?

Wil

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Are there any new, good series out there that are finished in four books or less? It seems as if every new writer out feels he has to complete 6 books or more to be considered good.

Has anyone read something recently that finished in under 4 books?
 
First -- I do not believe that avatar! That's priceless!

Second -- If you've taken a look at the input from John Jarrold and others, the publishers are very much pushing for long books and long series these days; and are much less likely to even look at your material seriously without that being a possibility. Personally, I think it's heading for the same problem the early Gothics did -- increasingly huge novels (3-4 volumes) that get increasingly complex and attenuated, and eventually readers get bored with the whole thing and dump the entire field; which means fantasy suffers another nasty setback for a good few decades (which I would really hate to see happen). But for now, it's the trend, and as long as writers are trying to survive in the marketplace, that's what they're mostly going to go for....
 
I found Moontide and Magic Rise followed by Sea Without a Shore by Sean Russel to be an enjoyable duology.
 
I've completely given up on Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time and George R R Martin's chronicles. I can't be bothered reading a series that requires me to go back to he last book to refresh my memory about what happened so I can enjoy the new one. If Tolkien can write an epic fantasy in under 1000 pages then surely someone else can! Three books should be a max for a series (moan, complain..)
 
personally, I LOVE huuuuge series. The bigger the better. All my fave books are already large tomes, and part of a larger tale. To be honest if a books under 400-500 pages I look at it with suspicion, suspecting that they've cut corners in regards to character development and worldbuilding etc. to cram their creation into a much smaller space - and I’m often proved right, with a few notable exceptions. I like my fiction epic, I like long and convoluted plotlines, I like huge casts of characters and massive worlds. I LIKE the fact that I often have to go back and dig around in previous volumes. I LOVE the fact that I often have to come on here and beg Boaz to tell me what the hell is going on.

HOWEVER - they must be GOOD, large books. The only thing worse than a crappy novel with little plot, one dimensional characters and a poorly realised and boring world is a HUGE book with page after page of dull descriptive drivel that STILL doesn't actually address any of the aforementioned problems (yes, I’m looking at YOU mr Donaldson, and Robert you've been slipping the last few books!).

If a writer can justify the shelf space with gripping plotlines, intelligent and dynamic characters and stunning worlds I’d RATHER they told their tale in 10,000 words rather then 1,000, I’d RATHER they spent 10 volumes exploring their creations rather than just one.

But only if it's all brilliantly written, and justified.

Martin, Eriksson, and bakker are all doing very well so far. But so was Jordan for a fair while. :) We'll just have to wait and see. :D
 
BUT if you want a great series in under 3 volumes i've just finished reading the second sons trilogy by Jennifer Fallon. Excellent stuff, gripped me from start to finish. Will deffinately have a look at her earlier stuff, and i look forwad to reading her future works.
 
Dolorous Edd said:
BUT if you want a great series in under 3 volumes i've just finished reading the second sons trilogy by Jennifer Fallon. Excellent stuff, gripped me from start to finish. Will deffinately have a look at her earlier stuff, and i look forwad to reading her future works.

Really liked the Second Son trilogy, but felt that the Demon Child trilogy was not quite as good. Then there is the prequel to Demon Child consisting of Wolfblade, Warrior and Warlord that I liked best of all. Just my 2 cents worth.
 
I like long books better simply because I read so fast and anything less than 1000 pages of small print is a bad investment because it's gone in about a day or two. You should read The Mists of Avalon. It's really the only good thing she wrote but it's great. A fantastic take on Arthurian legend.
 
the smiling weirwood said:
I like long books better simply because I read so fast and anything less than 1000 pages of small print is a bad investment because it's gone in about a day or two.


Aye, i have the same prob :rolleyes: I blitz through books. i can happily devour 400-500 + pages in a morning/afternoon when i have the time. I don't really do bitesize reading, a chapter a day etc. My worst example is Robin Hobb's Fools Fate. it arrived Saturday morning and i started reading it. 11:45 Sunday, i finished it and finally went to sleep. :eek:

I Kept going "right, it's midnight, should probably go to sleep - oh o.k., just another few chapters...."

"O.K. now i'm being serious, it's gone 2 - i really should go to sleep".

"Oh for f*ck sake! It's 7 am! - i really should have gone to sleep".

"8:45!!! :eek: Ah, sod it. May as well finish now, haven't got to do anything tommorow/today...." :D


God bless 1,000 + page novels and Sundays! :D
 
thats exactly what i do. get to then end of the chapter and think, ok ive gotta stop now, but then somehow i start reading the next chapter and before i know it ive read that chapter, then it repeats, and repeats....
 
Good-to-great completed series:

The Prince of Nothing by R. Scott Bakker (trilogy, although there will be four sequel books set in the same world).

The Monarchies of God by Paul Kearney (five, relatively short books).

Crown of Stars by Kate Elliott (seven pretty big books).

The Night's Dawn Trilogy by Peter F. Hamilton (three huge books).

The Revelation Space Trilogy by Alastair Reynolds (three middling-sized books).

With Jordan I'd now recommend anyone thinking of reading the series to wait a while longer. The final volume is due for the end of 2008. With Martin it's more difficult as he is easily the best epic fantasy writer working today, but the multi-year gap between books is irritating and he won't be finished with his series until about 2013 at his current schedule.
 
the fencer series, has a nice feel, its not omg stuff, but it has a certain thing about it
 
Werthead said:
Good-to-great completed series:
The Monarchies of God by Paul Kearney (five, relatively short books).
I can't recommend this set of books enough. Kearney's Monarchies of God is one of the most underrated series' in modern fantasy. Very few writers are comparable in regards to his prose and style. It's an absolute shame that those books are no longer in print.
 
williamkooiker said:
I can't recommend this set of books enough. Kearney's Monarchies of God is one of the most underrated series' in modern fantasy. Very few writers are comparable in regards to his prose and style. It's an absolute shame that those books are no longer in print.


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William A. Kooiker

Author of Tower of Ruin and "A Dove Before Dawn" in Time Intertwined.

Just bought the complete set, all new, except for one. It depends on where you look. I got most of mine from pforpaperback.com online
 
Thanks Yall...Great info on new books to try.

Werthead:
To add on to your suggestion about Jordan: Anyone interested in starting his series-don't.

On your statement of GW's final book due 2013 - that's a long time away if he sticks to his schedule, and he's not very good at finishing on time. Let's hope he gets a sudden 5 year spurt of inspiration and finishes the whole thing sooner.
 
Hey William (williamkooiker), I just visisted your website. Good luck with your book.
 
Finishing sooner is possible. ADWD should be out in the spring or early summer of 2007. 2-2.5 years after that should come TWoW and then another 2-2.5 years to ADoS. which would put us at 2011-2012. However, then add on another 2-3 month delay for each book for signing tours, con appearances etc.

But on the plus side we should get another three or four Dunk & Egg stories in that time as well.
 

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