Given the chance would you?

[Abydos6]

WOA!!!!

Sorry ladies, but he's not the hottest hunk on the show....

Danny boy is....by streaks...speaking of which....I wish...I wish.....

quick, wheres the drool bucket.....


anyway.....


between drools....


do you think he would give up jr.?

 

[skydiver]

oh yeah
i know junior gives him incredible strenght, endurance, tolerance etc but...hey think about it this way, the snake only gives this power to the jaffa cause it keeps HIM alive.
the goa'uld use the jaffa as soldiers...which tend to have a high mortality rate. so if the snake makes his jaffa harder and harder to kill he therefore helps insure his survival.
junior is teal'c's achilles heel. he's 100% dependant on the little thing. if junior dies, he dies but if he dies, junior can always hop hosts.
just the fact that junior will one day mature and need to move on creates an incredible vulnerability for t-man. one day either the tok'ra are going to have to get him a snake or sg-1 is going to have to get him one...and how will they do that? given that apophis has abandoned chulak, there's no convenient temple to steal one from now so what are his choices, find another jaffa, kill him so teal'c can inherit his snake?
remember what teal'c said in 2010...the dependance on the larva may one day become the jaffa's undoing.

 

[jsc]

Ayeah! One of the sadder things about being a Jaffa! Think that is one of the reasons Teal'c is fighting to free his people. They do not need to be so dependent upon a system lord if their lives and the lives of loved ones are not dependent upon larval snakes!

 

[Abydos6]

So, given the chance, of safetly giving up the larve, he would, thats what I thought.

Do, you think that the Jaffar on Tu'lac will band with him against the goau'ld? I know in 2010 they must have, but given that they changed that(for the moment), do you think they will?

 

[jsc]

I think that they or some will over come their reticence to fight against their false gods. The result can notbe much worse thatwhat it is now. Uncertain life and perhaps death at the hands of a loved one who is on the 'side'of another system lord! I believe that Teal'c is an exception in that he and a few others can break away knowing that their deaths will be the result of that action, not only in battle but because they could loose all the advantages carrying the symboite when the symbiote matures andcan not be replaced!

 

[Abydos6]

Well he is already changing minds, it must be difficult and frustrating when he knows of what he speaks and the others keep their heads in the sand.

 

[jsc]

It is a difficult road for the T-Man!

 

[coffeecup]

with all the technology(sp) Thor and others aliens knows,
you wouuld have thunk that by now, something could be use or manufacture to replace the larval in the T-man.

 

[jsc]

Yes, coffeecup, I agree. I think they are holding out ontheT-Man!

Bring George and Tyrone over to General Discussion we have athread, alien - that you indirectly started by giving the guys thier names! Come and join us!

 

[Sci-Fi16]

Bits of this thread is going into areas I don't know about, so I'll just answer the original question. Well, to start, a major part of my own personal SF writing has been of symbiotic relationships between a certain race, and members of various others, including human. (I did this before I'd even heard of SG-1) So, I have had some experience of considering this. Well, with the Tok'ra, having only seen 'In the Line of Duty', I would consider it. If the bond is volantry, there's got to be a little leinence between the freedom of Goa'uld (Tok'ra, that is) and host. That is to say, the Goa'uld wouldn't need to 'listen in' on whatever the host says or thinks, and vice-versa. As for using the powers of the Goa'uld, that would be interesting, even with the glowing eyes, which is pretty freaky in someone who looks in every other way human. For example, in my own writing, the creature is in tune with it's host in such a way that it protects him/her from attack or harm. However, the cost of this is that the host involontarily loses control over their body.
Very interesting concept, although from what I know, surly it could be a case of 'once a Goa'uld, always a Goa'uld'? A change of name doesn't nesscesarily alter the species.

 

[Abydos6]

ah, but what of teal'c and what of the destroyer of worlds???????

 

[jsc]

The receiving of a Prim'ta ritual is (was) a mark of distinction for the chosen ones. It allows many things for both the goa'uld larva and hosts...but that is another topic. The Prim'ta ritual is a cultural tradition which must be set aside and cultural traditions are the hardest things to give up.

 

[Sci-Fi16]

Not sure what you mean with destroyer of worlds, all I know is that weird woman on 'Prisoners'.
So, I've seen the 'Tok'ra' episodes. Would I do it?
I do not know. It still seems strange, and kind of invasive on the part of the host. At least with Jacob and Selmak the one thing they could share is that they were both likely to die without blending, and so the fact that the two live on....hmm, that's going to take some thought I'm not going to babble on here about.

 

[imported_carter]

i would think about it on you id card

 

[markpud]

Would I get blended?? That is a toughie...
Many pro's: extended life, knowledge, health etc
Cons: snake in head, shared personality....

Hmm... probably not... unless I was dying, like Jacob...

 

[shiloh]

If I were dying, and I was sure it was a Tok'ra, yeah, definitely. The Tok'ra may be smug sobs
with their own agendas, and they screw the Tauri with regular abandon, but they're not evil. And I'd get
into space, cool, so , yeah.

 

[ponyperson]

As long as it was definately a tok'ra, i'd do it.. imagine all that knowledge, all that understanding?... sure, the tok'ra have their own agenda, but with their history, its understandable.. and the tau'ri have their own agenda too... who's to say who's agenda is "right"?...

i wander how my animals would react if i was blended.. i cant think of any scenes where there were tok'ra and animals... animals have that sixth sense... if my pony couldnt handle it (and couldnt come) then i'd have to reconsider my decision.. otherwise...
blend on...

 

[Sci-Fi16]

Yes, animals would be a problem.
And there's the question of 'what you are' upon blending. In 'Tok'ra part 2' Sam describes the Tokr'a Lantash/Martouf as partly human. If we were blended, surly there's something of an identity crisis. On the one hand, you have the essentially free soul you've always possessed i.e., Human. On the other not only do you have a alien being inside your head that 'tags' you as alien, but as you and it are technically one and the same person, there's idea, that, as a member of the Tok'ra, you'd be in a situation whereby you may think: 'Well, I have my values as a human, but *obligations*, as a Tok'ra) I'm not saying that such a rift would exist between Host and Tok'ra, or else such a blend would never of occured, it's just what I would think of, hypothetically, as a host.

 

[imported_carter]

skitsophrenia here i come!

 

[ponyperson]

I think considering how much you are given upon becoming a host (knowledge, strength, healing, etc...) that your loyalties have to go to the tok'ra, if at some point they conflict with the tau'ri...