Sean3w
Ra's ship would have seen them on there exit from Earth.
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Ra's ship would have seen them on there exit from Earth.
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MythingLink
Are you saying that RA kept his ship there on Earth after the people revolted and buried the Giza Gate?
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MythingLink
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Are you saying that RA kept his ship there on Earth after the people revolted and buried the Giza Gate?
Cheers,
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MythingLink
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padders
This whole thing brings up 1 question for me. When and where did humans fit into the goa'uld life cycle. We know they used different hosts before humans, so did they then travel to earth on ships (assuming the stargate - which ever one - was buried or they would not bother) and find humans.. think.. arr good hosts and take them?
If this is the case then it raises a number of questions:
1) How did humans get to other planets. As there are some "humans link" people on other planets that have no goa'uld presence we assume they left earth through the stargate before the 1st stargate was buried. How they worked out the stargate is another question? perhaps asgard etc.. where on earth a long long time ago.
2) Did the Goa'uld only arrive on earth in Egyptian times? I wonder if there history with humans can only be 3,000 years old??
Just a couple of thoughs, anyone with answers?
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This whole thing brings up 1 question for me. When and where did humans fit into the goa'uld life cycle. We know they used different hosts before humans, so did they then travel to earth on ships (assuming the stargate - which ever one - was buried or they would not bother) and find humans.. think.. arr good hosts and take them?
If this is the case then it raises a number of questions:
1) How did humans get to other planets. As there are some "humans link" people on other planets that have no goa'uld presence we assume they left earth through the stargate before the 1st stargate was buried. How they worked out the stargate is another question? perhaps asgard etc.. where on earth a long long time ago.
2) Did the Goa'uld only arrive on earth in Egyptian times? I wonder if there history with humans can only be 3,000 years old??
Just a couple of thoughs, anyone with answers?
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Chris Padfield, administrator for TalkStargate.com
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SGPflughaupt
Gee,Padders, you certainly brought up alot of questions there. Did it rain while on holiday and you were stuck inside with nothing else to do but think about StarGate?
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Let me put on my thinking cap while you pull on some hip-waders......
Okay,the Movie showed Ra arriving in his Galactic RV so I assume he did not arrive by gate but by travelling through space.
Humans on other planets may have been put there by other aliens (like the Asgard as you suggest).
I Can see it now.....(dream fade).
Alien 1 - "Well,here we are,a strange new planet. What do you want to do first?"
Alien 2 - "LETS GET SOUVENIRS..those funny looking creatures inventing fire would make good ones."
or...
Alien Child - "Mommy,it followed me back to the spaceship...can I keep it, huh, huh, pleeease".
Gou'ald arrival before 3000BC is one I couldnt say but the show has never indirectly suggested that IMO. Would humans had been there to greet them and say "Beam me up,Sco'tty"...well I read some where that some historians think at humans have had villages going back to over 5000BC.
At least these sound like okay replys but then I am only trying to rationalize those questions you brought up.
Gee,Padders, you certainly brought up alot of questions there. Did it rain while on holiday and you were stuck inside with nothing else to do but think about StarGate?
.Let me put on my thinking cap while you pull on some hip-waders......
Okay,the Movie showed Ra arriving in his Galactic RV so I assume he did not arrive by gate but by travelling through space.
Humans on other planets may have been put there by other aliens (like the Asgard as you suggest).
I Can see it now.....(dream fade).
Alien 1 - "Well,here we are,a strange new planet. What do you want to do first?"
Alien 2 - "LETS GET SOUVENIRS..those funny looking creatures inventing fire would make good ones."
or...
Alien Child - "Mommy,it followed me back to the spaceship...can I keep it, huh, huh, pleeease".
Gou'ald arrival before 3000BC is one I couldnt say but the show has never indirectly suggested that IMO. Would humans had been there to greet them and say "Beam me up,Sco'tty"...well I read some where that some historians think at humans have had villages going back to over 5000BC.
At least these sound like okay replys but then I am only trying to rationalize those questions you brought up.
MythingLink
Besides the Tollan, I can think of no humans that has been mentioned that didn't at one time mention being slaves to the Goa'uld. The Tollan might very well have been and like their counterparts on Earth have overthrown the Goa'uld. They never say. So I would have to say that the human presence on all those other worlds did originate on Earth. Once on the other worlds, they could have figured out how to work the Gates and then gone on to populate other worlds themselves maybe as a way to hide from the Goa'uld who were still coming to the world they were transplanted onto. Does any of that make sense? <G>
Until there is other evidence to the contrary I think we have to go with RA being the first to discover the humans and that he could use them as hosts and slaves much better than the Unas or the other life forms they've used.
Cheers,
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MythingLink
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Besides the Tollan, I can think of no humans that has been mentioned that didn't at one time mention being slaves to the Goa'uld. The Tollan might very well have been and like their counterparts on Earth have overthrown the Goa'uld. They never say. So I would have to say that the human presence on all those other worlds did originate on Earth. Once on the other worlds, they could have figured out how to work the Gates and then gone on to populate other worlds themselves maybe as a way to hide from the Goa'uld who were still coming to the world they were transplanted onto. Does any of that make sense? <G>
Until there is other evidence to the contrary I think we have to go with RA being the first to discover the humans and that he could use them as hosts and slaves much better than the Unas or the other life forms they've used.
Cheers,
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MythingLink
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padders
I agree that it looks like all the humans where from earth. The 3000 year thing came from the aga of ancicent egypt where it looks like Ra arrived and adopted that "culture".
And holiday.. nah no rain at all.. it was boiling hot.. in england.. unbelievable!!! i am a little hot is what so hot! Never thought about stargate once what a horrible thought that is!!!
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Chris Padfield, administrator for TalkStargate.com
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I agree that it looks like all the humans where from earth. The 3000 year thing came from the aga of ancicent egypt where it looks like Ra arrived and adopted that "culture".
And holiday.. nah no rain at all.. it was boiling hot.. in england.. unbelievable!!! i am a little hot is what so hot! Never thought about stargate once what a horrible thought that is!!!
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MythingLink
Just rewatched Fire & Water. I've got the books downstairs to check for sure, but I'm too lazy to go down there and grab it. Amaroca came to Earth 4,000 years ago during the time of Babylon so if that is the case, then there were Goa'uld here before RA came if his arrival wasn't until 3,000 years ago.
Cheers,
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MythingLink
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Just rewatched Fire & Water. I've got the books downstairs to check for sure, but I'm too lazy to go down there and grab it. Amaroca came to Earth 4,000 years ago during the time of Babylon so if that is the case, then there were Goa'uld here before RA came if his arrival wasn't until 3,000 years ago.
Cheers,
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MythingLink
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MythingLink
Oh darn, now I've gotta go down to the basement and find those books. <G>
Cheers,
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MythingLink
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Oh darn, now I've gotta go down to the basement and find those books. <G>
Cheers,
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MythingLink
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MythingLink
I believe her. <G> There's also those big, hairy spiders to watch out for. Blech! I hate those things.
Cheers,
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MythingLink
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I believe her. <G> There's also those big, hairy spiders to watch out for. Blech! I hate those things.
Cheers,
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MythingLink
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padders
hehe, i forgot to add the a.d. years. I was guessing egypt at say 3,000 b.c. although i can't remember exactly when its height of civilisation was. So more like 5,000 years then i guess.
One question, where did tech like the hand devices come from? They must have been designed for humans so Tollan ??? (as Goa'uld don't seem to make anything themselves).
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Chris Padfield, administrator for TalkStargate.com
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hehe, i forgot to add the a.d. years. I was guessing egypt at say 3,000 b.c. although i can't remember exactly when its height of civilisation was. So more like 5,000 years then i guess.
One question, where did tech like the hand devices come from? They must have been designed for humans so Tollan ??? (as Goa'uld don't seem to make anything themselves).
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MythingLink
A bit of a spoiler for Upgrades. There are other races (species?) out there that are humanoid besides the Tollen, Nox, etc. The Ribbon Devices could have come from any number of worlds. They could have been originally designed for the Unas and then when the Goa'uld shifted to using humans, they revamped them so that they could be worn on a smaller hand. The Goa'uld have to be able to engineer things on their own even if the tech they use is stolen. Just a guess.
Cheers,
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MythingLink
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A bit of a spoiler for Upgrades. There are other races (species?) out there that are humanoid besides the Tollen, Nox, etc. The Ribbon Devices could have come from any number of worlds. They could have been originally designed for the Unas and then when the Goa'uld shifted to using humans, they revamped them so that they could be worn on a smaller hand. The Goa'uld have to be able to engineer things on their own even if the tech they use is stolen. Just a guess.
Cheers,
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MythingLink
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SGPflughaupt
Yea,I would agree. My impression was that the Goa'uld just werent big on original research (work is for the little people - signed the Gou'ald master) but didnt have any problems with adapting know technology to suit their needs.
Yea,I would agree. My impression was that the Goa'uld just werent big on original research (work is for the little people - signed the Gou'ald master) but didnt have any problems with adapting know technology to suit their needs.
padders
Makes sense although the tech does seem "designed" for goa'uld as only they can use it. If they did not design it someone must have modified it. Are there goa'uld scientists???
That is a thought, how many goa'uld actually are there? We know of very very few goa'uld don't we yet there are loads of jaffa with little juniors so where are all the Goa'uld?
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Chris Padfield, administrator for TalkStargate.com
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Makes sense although the tech does seem "designed" for goa'uld as only they can use it. If they did not design it someone must have modified it. Are there goa'uld scientists???
That is a thought, how many goa'uld actually are there? We know of very very few goa'uld don't we yet there are loads of jaffa with little juniors so where are all the Goa'uld?
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MythingLink
Speculation? I would almost guess that each System Lord has a 'court' similar to the what was seen in historical times. This court is probably filled with Goa'uld who are not System Lords, but say Under Lords or something - like Klorel who was a son, but not a System Lord.
Cheers,
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MythingLink
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Speculation? I would almost guess that each System Lord has a 'court' similar to the what was seen in historical times. This court is probably filled with Goa'uld who are not System Lords, but say Under Lords or something - like Klorel who was a son, but not a System Lord.
Cheers,
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MythingLink
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padders
Makes sense althoug i can't really imagine a court of people "working together". Goa'uld all seem to hate each other.
There must be civilian goa'uld won't there? i wonder what they do all day!
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Chris Padfield, administrator for TalkStargate.com
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Makes sense althoug i can't really imagine a court of people "working together". Goa'uld all seem to hate each other.
There must be civilian goa'uld won't there? i wonder what they do all day!
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MythingLink
Probably got some of them surfing the Universe Wide Web, downloading the latest MP3s and pictures of Terri Hatcher. <G>
Cheers,
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MythingLink
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Probably got some of them surfing the Universe Wide Web, downloading the latest MP3s and pictures of Terri Hatcher. <G>
Cheers,
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MythingLink
The Woolfden: http://www.woolfden.net
SGPflughaupt
I would have to support the "Court" theory because in CotG if you remember Apophis had others selecting hosts from the dungeon where the SG-1 team was being held. After, of course, his consort got first pick.
These others seems to be subservient to Apophis. It would make sense for lesser powerful Goa'ulds to allie themselves with more powerful ones even if just for protection against other powerful Goa'ulds.
I would have to support the "Court" theory because in CotG if you remember Apophis had others selecting hosts from the dungeon where the SG-1 team was being held. After, of course, his consort got first pick.
These others seems to be subservient to Apophis. It would make sense for lesser powerful Goa'ulds to allie themselves with more powerful ones even if just for protection against other powerful Goa'ulds.
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