5.14: The Summit

I don't think Jacob will die, at least he's not in the thick of the action on the space station where the summit is being held.....in fact Daniel is.

Daniel has gone with Jacob to act as Yu's slave during the Summit and SG1 and the new SG recruits go to the Tok'ra base Rivanna to see him off and for the recruits to have familiarisation exercises with the Tok'ra. However, after Daniel and Jacob leave, the base comes under attack by motherships and the gate is blocked preventing escape. The Tok'ra get taken out big time by Zipacna acting on the orders of Anubis. The original intent was to use the same toxin that Daniel is carrying to destroy the 7 System Lords on the Tok'ra, but instead they blow the base to smithereens and block the stargate which is the only means of escape.

Lantesh, who the Tok'ra have been keeping alive while he heals, was released when an explosion destroyed the lab where he was on the Tok'ra base. Carter, Elliot (the newbie) are the only people left alive. When Carter comes to, she discovers that Elliot has been taken by Lantesh, who is subsequently healing Elliot's wound. The symbiote had not choice but to seek a host and Elliot was the closest person alive, apart from Carter. Teal'c and Jack get pinned down trying to reach the Stargate and it ends up that they appear (again) to be the only ones who escape. They go back to find Carter and the others.

Meanwhile Daniel has problems of his own when the Tok'ra plan has a hitch. Acting as Yu's human slave, he is meant to wait until the 7 most powerful System Lords are present and then he's supposed to release a toxin which will kill all symbiotes (which means the Jaffa too) and therefore the Goa'uld, leaving a power vacuum which the Tok'ra intend to take advantage of to kill all the symbiotes.

Yu doesn't recognise him because the Tok'ra managed to synthesise some of the chemical produced which made the alien in the Fifth Man able to deceive everyone.

The plan is set, the party is arranged and everybody who is anybody is there.........and then in walks Osiris, who of course immediately recognises Daniel, but doesn't say anything.

Daniel manages to get a message to Jacob to say that Osiris is there, but before anything else can be said, the doors open and in walks Osiris herself saying "Daniel Jackson. You are a long way from home."

Jack and Teal'c find Carter and Elliot and are trying to make their way out of the ruined passages when the wall crumbles inwards......

I have to say that this time, I totally agreed with Jack, who was his usual sceptical self about the whole thing.... with damn good reason in my opinion and extremely justified. Neither Jack nor Daniel are comfortable with the Tok'ra's plan to annihilate the Goa'uld and I think that Jack believes that they might have different ideas to the so called philanthropical attitudes they have put forward so far. Jacob does nothing to allay that feelings, in fact seems rather more evasive than he has ever been. Jack was rather good in this, even though he didn't have the primary role, which really went to Daniel, who also has a good part. The sideline of Sam, Elliot and Lantesh is rather interesting and doesn't detract from the episode at all.

Lots of action, some new rather interesting System Lords, all suspicious of each other and Zipacna who was oily and smooth in his nastiness. Osiris doesn't really want to serve Anubis, but she/he recognises power when she/he sees it and apparently they have some sort of acquaintance with each other.

And everything is still only hinting at the power of Anubis who is keeping well in the background and doesn't seem to display any of the idiocy of his Goa'uld colleagues. He wasn't going to get his **ss shot off...... he was sending minions for that. I doubt that he will allow himself to be trapped on a locked bridge with a vengeful Jaffa. I just hope that SG1 aren't allowed to kill this Anubis off the way they have done with the others.

Good action shots, good interaction, relationships between the team were there, but not hindering the storyline, in fact accentuating it.

Now why the hell couldn't they have done this before?

A good episode, well worth watching. Can't wait to see the Last Stand. Should be a good 'un folks!

Blimey, it's nice to say that for a change!!!

I will also post this in the UK Season 5 forum.

:D
 
5:14 - The Summit

Just a few thoughts on Summit.

Very vague synopsis:

Daniel has gone with Jacob to act as Yu's slave during the Summit and SG1 and the new SG recruits go to the Tok'ra base Rivanna to see him off and for the recruits to have familiarisation exercises with the Tok'ra. However, after Daniel and Jacob leave, the base comes under attack by motherships and the gate is blocked preventing escape. The Tok'ra get taken out big time by Zipacna acting on the orders of Anubis. The original intent was to use the same toxin that Daniel is carrying to destroy the 7 System Lords on the Tok'ra, but instead they blow the base to smithereens and block the stargate which is the only means of escape.

Lantesh, who the Tok'ra have been keeping alive while he heals, was released when an explosion destroyed the lab where he was on the Tok'ra base. Carter, Elliot (the newbie) are the only people left alive. When Carter comes to, she discovers that Elliot has been taken by Lantesh, who is subsequently healing Elliot's wound. The symbiote had not choice but to seek a host and Elliot was the closest person alive, apart from Carter. Teal'c and Jack get pinned down trying to reach the Stargate and it ends up that they appear (again) to be the only ones who escape. They go back to find Carter and the others.

Meanwhile Daniel has problems of his own when the Tok'ra plan has a hitch. Acting as Yu's human slave, he is meant to wait until the 7 most powerful System Lords are present and then he's supposed to release a toxin which will kill all symbiotes (which means the Jaffa too) and therefore the Goa'uld, leaving a power vacuum which the Tok'ra intend to take advantage of to kill all the symbiotes.

Yu doesn't recognise him because the Tok'ra managed to synthesise some of the chemical produced which made the alien in the Fifth Man able to deceive everyone.

The plan is set, the party is arranged and everybody who is anybody is there.........and then in walks Osiris, who of course immediately recognises Daniel, but doesn't say anything.

Daniel manages to get a message to Jacob to say that Osiris is there, but before anything else can be said, the doors open and in walks Osiris herself saying "Daniel Jackson. You are a long way from home."

Jack and Teal'c find Carter and Elliot and are trying to make their way out of the ruined passages when the wall crumbles inwards......

I have to say that this time, I totally agreed with Jack, who was his usual sceptical self about the whole thing.... with damn good reason in my opinion and extremely justified. Neither Jack nor Daniel are comfortable with the Tok'ra's plan to annihilate the Goa'uld and I think that Jack believes that they might have different ideas to the so called philanthropical attitudes they have put forward so far. Jacob does nothing to allay that feelings, in fact seems rather more evasive than he has ever been. Jack was rather good in this, even though he didn't have the primary role, which really went to Daniel, who also has a good part. The sideline of Sam, Elliot and Lantesh is rather interesting and doesn't detract from the episode at all.

Lots of action, some new rather interesting System Lords, all suspicious of each other and Zipacna who was oily and smooth in his nastiness. Osiris doesn't really want to serve Anubis, but she/he recognises power when she/he sees it and apparently they have some sort of acquaintance with each other.

And everything is still only hinting at the power of Anubis who is keeping well in the background and doesn't seem to display any of the idiocy of his Goa'uld colleagues. He wasn't going to get his **ss shot off...... he was sending minions for that. I doubt that he will allow himself to be trapped on a locked bridge with a vengeful Jaffa. I just hope that SG1 aren't allowed to kill this Anubis off the way they have done with the others.

Good action shots, good interaction, relationships between the team were there, but not hindering the storyline, in fact accentuating it.

Now why the hell couldn't they have done this before?

A good episode, well worth watching. Can't wait to see the Last Stand. Should be a good 'un folks!

Blimey, it's nice to say that for a change!!!


:D
 
Re: 5:14 - The Summit

Originally posted by Anni


Good action shots, good interaction, relationships between the team were there, but not hindering the storyline, in fact accentuating it.

Now why the hell couldn't they have done this before?

A good episode, well worth watching. Can't wait to see the Last Stand. Should be a good 'un folks!

Blimey, it's nice to say that for a change!!!


:D


Hey Anni...nice to see you over here!!

I thought you would like this one....I know I did...I like you did say why could they have not done this a long time ago...I think it has to be one of the best episodes of this season!

Great to see Zipacna back..I liked him last time around.....

Can't wait to see the new big bad Goa'uld...like you I hope he doesn't get killed too easy.

Its going to be really intresting to see how Lantash and Elliot story works out!
So do you think he will have to go live with the Tok'ra or will he stay on at the SGC?
Wonder what Sarah will have planned for Danny?
Oh so many questions...and we have to wait until Jan 9th to find out :(

Overall I have to say its been my fave of the season!
 
did you see the epi already. stateside it doesn't start until like february. is there any web site i can download it from. im too impatient to wait. thanks for the run down anni:rolly2:
 
I can safely say it was the best episode for a long time.

(and if Anni liked it, it must have been alright ;) ;) )

Now we have to wait until 11th January 2002 for the second part :( :(
 
I agree with all the comments so far, easily the best contender for the best Season 5 episode so far.

It was such a refreshing change to see Daniel being the key figure and I also enjoyed the balance of power with the Goa'uld kicking a$$ for a change.

For such a "deadly enemy" we don't often get to see why - this episode really brings in the reminder of the threat.

Good acting all round and we even get to see a new arc with the Lantash/Elliot introduction.

The first time for a "To be continued.." midway but it has my vote :D

Let's hope Anubis doesn't get the SG-1 treatment just yet (agree with Anni on that point) but I doubt they'll get the chance yet.

5 Star - What a Fantastic ep !
 
This shows that I have missed a few eps but what is the significance of that Goa'uld and why did Danny not kill them all anyway?
 
on sky1 in uk. what date is the last stand going to be on in the usa. cause here its on jan 9th
 
I have heard that no new episodes will air for the moment in the US on Showtime because they wanted to time the end of Stargate on Showtime (before it moves to the Sci Fi channel) with the beginning of a new show called Jeremiah. This Jeremiah show was delayed apparently. Rumour control has it that there were scenes in it that were controversial because of the World Trade Centre disaster on 11 September, but I can't swear that this is true.

We will see Last Stand and the rest of the Season 5 episodes in the new year starting with Last Stand on January 9th. However there is a real chance that the UK will have seen every episode well before the US sees them.

:cool:
 
ihave a question for all of you.at the begining of episode 5 the producers of stargate said they would be peeling the onion on the ancients. so far i havnt seen any episode which the ancients in, have any of you got clue which one it is in the upcoming episode???by the way best episode in season 5 was summit so far seen
 
Originally posted by padders
This shows that I have missed a few eps but what is the significance of that Goa'uld and why did Danny not kill them all anyway?

I think you mean the female goa'uld...well if you do the reason that Danny would not kill her was because she was his ex girlfriend from a few years back.....she got turned in a season four episode....So I think he won't complete his mission to kill them all coz she would die too......
 
I liked the little scene with Danny and Teal'c talking at the beginng. It's good to see them actually interacting, must be one of the first time this season.

Again, it was great to see some old favs like Aldwin and Zapacna and that female Tok'Ra chick was great too.

I wonder how this whole Lantash thing is going to effect Sam in the future, will her and Lantash have a "heart to heart" about what happened to Martouf.

Also, the costumes were excelent. Jacob had some pretty funky threads, as did Danny and Sarah/Osiris.

Question: Is Zapacna working for Anubis?
Question: Anyone know the name of those funky Goa'uld ships that were attacking Revera?
 
Originally posted by ShelbyS
Question: Is Zapacna working for Anubis?

He insinuated that he was working for Anubis, because he said he was working for some one much more powerful, and Osirus/Sarah seemed to know exactly who he meant. The question is: Is Osirus also working for Anubis now? And does anyone in the Tokra or SGC know that he is pulling the strings? It seems that everything that happened could have been orchestrated by Anubis simply to wipe out the Tokra.
 
i too like the sam/elliot/lantash bit. it seems to me that sam has known for quite some time that lantash survived. she said she'd been trying to get info for months (or quite a while).

i do have one questin, and maybe they explain this in last stand...(which, given teh dire straits they're in is not boding well)
if a dying symbiote releases a toxin...how did sam survive jols? jolinar was absorbed into sam's body so....where did this toxin come from?

and another thing...anyone else just screaming at danny to "push the button for cryin out loud!!!".


and i wonder who the traitor is? is s/he still alive?
 
No offence Sky, but why would anyone be screaming for that? Everyone could plainly see that Anubis wasn't there and the Tok'ra were getting their butts well and truly kicked. If Dear old Danny HAD pushed the button, he may have killed off the people on the space station, but there was no one left on the base to synthesise more of the toxin, (Jacob and Daniel had the only sample). The only thing that killing the System Lords would have done was to make Anubis immensely powerful and in total control of huge armies. The armies weren't on the station, so they wouldn't have been killed. Anubis would have the biggest and most powerful army in the galaxy.

And there would be no one around to activate the Tok'ra master plan to disseminate the toxin throughout the Goa'uld. And let's face it, that had monster holes in it anyway. How the heck were the Tok'ra going to be avoid being killed too?

And if the Stargate production people allowed this powerful Goa'uld to be blown away as simply as the others by four little humans, I reckon the show would lose complete credibility forever.

I know you all like simple little feelgood solutions like.... the four goodies are so good and so pure that they will always prevail and kills the baddies no matter how powerful like some sort of fairy tale, and I also know that it's a TV show and they can make anything like that happen. But it would have to be with complete suspension of disbelief. Quite honestly, I don't want it to be that simple, or that black and white. There's always a happy ending and the goodies always win? No... I don't think so. In my experience, goodies get squashed and the baddies always get whatever they want.

And yes... I did pick up on the Sam/Jolinar toxin thing. I just assumed it was another gaping plot hole. Another example of the writers and producers complete and total inability to research their own show's scripts. Or, even worse, a total lack of concern as to what we might think......

However, since I am assured by many that Brad Wright, RDA and Co have all been accepted for sainthood and can do no wrong, I'm sure they wouldn't do anything so dreadful!

:evil: :evil: :evil: :rolleyes:
 
yeah but daniel has no idea about anubis, no one really does. all the tokra know is that someone has been kicking the goauld tushes. if daniel knew about anubis then yes he'd be a fool to release the toxin.

i have a funny feeling that osiris didn't blow danny's cover because she wants to use him to get rid of zippy and get herself some more power. there has also been a mentin that the cloning stuff may come up.

and there's also something else that jacob mentioned, he said the goauld used to spreaad like a plague, but recently they've had zero population gorwth...and the tokra dont' know why.
maybe anubis is tampering with something to eliminate any and all contenders sorta like a queen bee will kill all her sisters so she can be the boss.
 
Yeah..... of course you are right. Neither SG1 OR the Tok'ra know it's Anubis do they? Good point! but even so, I STILL didn't want Daniel to press the button. That would have been FAR too easy and far too convenient.

In fact very good points all round. I wondered that about the zero growth myself. Also, that might have something to do with the fact that perhaps there aren't too many larva bearing queens around, and SG1 have accounted for at least two (Hathor and Ammonet, I have to assume that the latter was one). Isis who might have been another makes three. I mean just because a Goa'uld has a female host doesn't make them into a symbiote that can bear the larva. The trouble is that obviously through time constraints the writers only scratch the darn surface and the rest we have to conjecture or make up for ourselves, which is fun, but causes problems when you're trying to make sense of the episodes.

But Anubis would be an idiot if he didn't try to get rid of the opposition, which means that SG1 constantly help him in this endeavour by killing off a fair few themselves. If I wanted supreme power, that's what I'd do. So you may well be right in your theories.

Of course, Anubis would be delighted if seven of his pesky rivals for power were killed off in one go. But to be honest, I really don't want them to die that easily. I really do want the idea of the Goa'uld as an horrifically powerful enemy of earth brought back. And I really do hope that we don't have any more evidence of Sam and her "Wait a minute Sir, I think I may have an idea.....", or Jack and his laissez faire "Oh well, we kicked butt....AGAIN, like shooting fish in a barrel" attitudes. I know that this is a wonderfully feelgood and simplistic view.... SG1=Goodies.....Goa'uld=Baddies and therefore SG1 MUST win, but if they do intend to wind up Season Six, then go into a film and a sort of carry on series..... the horrific Goa'uld should be a continuing theme, because after all, it was with Ra in the film and then the Goa'uld in the show that the idea of the series started. The premise that we are linked to them whether we like it or not and that they are responsible for seeding our part of the universe with the humanoid species. And also that they are inextricably linked with man's civilisations and development.

If the Goa'uld just get discarded to appease the viewers who want the enemy to be destroyed and the world saved because it makes them feel warm and gooey inside, it's a cop out. If they say, well there's worse enemies out there (and so far all they've come up with is lego bugs, who are just ridiculous and not scary at all) then it just becomes a show looking for another even worse monster to scare the kiddies because they're afraid our limited attention spans might not keep us watching unless they do.

I hope they keep the impetus they have started with Summit and don't fizzle out like a damp squib.

Unfortunately, I have a horrible feeling that the episode which sees Daniel's 'demise' might well be a damp squib. The 'ascending' notion makes me feel rather nauseous.

But Summit just goes to prove that when they really put their minds to it, the Stargate team CAN produce and maintain the atmosphere of menace and mystery.

Let's hope they keep it up.

:cool:
 

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