Help!

haven't really thought about doing the 'dig' thing - i'm a poli sci person myself -- (no i don't like politics - i like knowing how the gov't works and how foreign policy is planned - don't lump me in w/ the guys in congress etc - i'm not "THAT" type of political scientist <end rant>)

tho - a dig would be kinda cool - but - like you - i have NO money - if i did - i'd be going to Gatecon - but i don't, so i won't --

oh - hmpf - the webmistress/listmum for Clan MacSlow - i think she lives in Germany - (i don't remember - tho i should) -- so, she hasn't seen stargate - and she may not be interested - dunno - not really the point - just adjusting an observation --


oh - rowan -- have you been to stargate-command.com ?? great site! RPG type - lots o' fun - tests your stargate knowledge!!

hmmm -- weren't we talkin' about fic earlier??
oh - who cares - we'll just talk about whatever comes up --
oh - and this was fic - we were talkin' 'bout the clan for those of us who take years to write fic -- we're still on topic --

ok - i'll stop rambling now --
 
Stuff

stargte-command.com? Yes. You can find me there as Shohona of Abydos.

Besides Allan would kill me if I didn't come and visit. ;)
 
Re: Stuff

Originally posted by Rowan
stargte-command.com? Yes. You can find me there as Shohona of Abydos.

Besides Allan would kill me if I didn't come and visit. ;)

cool! and i figured - all you gatecon types would stick together - so, yeah - he might be a tad upset if you didn't mosey over every now and then ----- ;)
 
insane number of WIPs

Each of you have 30 to 40 fics just lying around. Brain freeze! :disturbed

For XF fics, if I was working on one I ignored any other ideas that popped into my brain. I was assuming that some evil Cyn was distracting myself so that I never made a fool of myself putting fic submissions to the XF list.

For this second round of SG-1, I pause and put the scene that occurs to me down into a seprate file. Touble is when I begin to examine this new idea, it has a bunch of potential holes and I worry that even if it's a fun idea it's not a good idea.

Still stuprises me when I think I'm tapped out and suddenly I have a whole new adventure.
 
yes - 30 -40 -- and that doesn't even count the ideas still floating around in my head that i haven't even jotted down yet --

i do have some completed stories - they are just in need of beta's - preferrably from the correct genre - easier to be edited that way -- but i'm not in a hurry --- i have some excellent betas who work w/ me and understand my style - they're the best --
(someone remind me to send them a virtual fruit basket <g>)

oh - and write the stories you think might be 'bad' but silly -- sometimes a 'bad' story can become a great story w/ a little tweaking -- oh - and things are always different once you put them on paper ---- (or on the word processor - depending on how you write)
 
Clan McSnail

I can make you all feel better. I still have every story I've ever tried to write.

I stopped counting after 200. Some are just basic outline. Or a scene.

The filing cabinet holds more than I thought.

Of course this dates back to 1974 when I started to write a lot.

Me finish something. The reason I post my fanfic here is that the gult would destroy me if I didn't finish. I respond to nagging obviously.

And Illusions has turned into a freakin monster.:rolleyes:
 
lol. I have stuff from 4th grade. Each week, we selected a tiny snippet photo from a basket and had to write a story about it. It's a very strange feeling looking at words I wrote twenty-five years ago. I'll have to dig the box out of the closet.

Like I said earlier, I have some storylines that I've held on to for that long. I was such an escapist I would recite the stories during the day to myself. While I was supposed to be listening in class, I suspect.

The frightening thing is I didn't start writing stuff down until I had a mishap on stage and whacked my head on a pipe. Things went black and I don't remember hitting the floor. Things started up and I found myself on my butt, confused, and swearing aloud at myself. It didn't appear that I had concussed, for all that I had been jogging when I slammed my head into it.

That was the summer I started applying real English to the stories and began writing those really old ones down. I wondered what happened to me in those brief, black seconds.
 
Re: Clan McSnail

Originally posted by Gemsong


Me finish something. The reason I post my fanfic here is that the gult would destroy me if I didn't finish. I respond to nagging obviously.

that's what finally got me to finish writing my story (well i guess i can't really say *finish*--yet)

i feel bad that i'm stringing everyone along on this massive run-on, but i know that i'd probably never finish it if i didn't have someone constantly on my butt.
have to wonder if everyone would be so patient if i ever did that again. hmmm:rolleyes:

"I worry that even if it's a fun idea it's not a good idea. "--Cynn
i so know what you mean. i mean, maybe someone else with more talent could get away with some of my ideas, but i know that any attempt i make would just be painfully embarrassing. now if i could direct them...well, visually i might be able to pull it off, but with my writing skills--hell no!
or i'll start with a great idea but then go'now what?' as i have absolutely no plot and no way to get everyone out of the situation i just finished gettting them into.

And i too have a filing cabinet brimming over with partials. maybe some day i'll even find and ending for some of those suckers.

okay, i have enjoyed getting all of this out there just to blow some steam, but i'll shut up now:D
 
Re: Re: Clan McSnail

Originally posted by Sandman

or i'll start with a great idea but then go'now what?' as i have absolutely no plot and no way to get everyone out of the situation i just finished gettting them into.

that's where I end up. I'm not a linear writer. I've heard some can be, but not I. When I launch an idea, I usually have a situation, and four scenes of snappy dialogue. I might or might not have an ending ready. Then it's the duh and doubt time.

Plot is plot. Pick the bigest threat: that's your climax. Work up to it, have big problem get solved, sum up how it mattered to the players. Something so easy and it takes so long....

I've been writing adventures, I'm still thinking about how to treat the Farscape crossover. I read a SG-1 goes Star Trek spoof that had me snickering, but that's sort of spoofing hasn't been my thing.

What pops into my head after this. Is John Criedon from FarScape saying, "Unh, great, the military found me."

Here we go again. crtl-N
 
I have a farscape/sg-1 crossover going. or actually it's not going, it's sitting in my file box, the one labeled 'ya right, who ya tryin to kid!'
i have some ideas, one half-written scene, and some pretty frustrated characters ready kill me as they are, by now, extremely bored.
 
writing

I am *not* a linear writer. The technique that works for me is to write on a pieve as far as I can go. If I have more ideas for it, I leave myself a spacer, something like:

*************
*************
Put Jack stuff here
*************
*************

and keep on going.

Sometimes I get a lot further than I thought. Sometimes it goes in the 'to look at later' pile. some Gate pieces have been living on my HD for a couple of years, just waiting for the right time.

Also... I'll stop and put down and idea... even if it's only a title and what inspired the idea. Stuff seems to come that way.

the other trick is a now 12 page, 2 col. doc of nothing but possible story titles. Sometimes a title will inspire a story later on.

It's all in trying to figure out how your mind works. Mine looks at a whole story [unless it's screaming to get out, like "Son Light" or "Lightning" that write themselves in an hour or so] and freaks becasue there's a lot of work there. If I break it into smaller parts, like using the spacer, it works better for my head.
 
X-over fic

Would like to see it someday, Sandman.;)
 
i never thought myself to be a linear writer either. but it seems that the some of my best stuff is the short stuff that pours out all at once. hardly happens, but you can tell by what i have posted over at stargatefan that that is the only kind i ever really get completed. though i'd like to think that my writing has improved a bit. maybe.
 
Re: Re: X-over fic

Originally posted by Sandman

ha, right.

No... I'm serious. Honest. I mean... if it's meant to be a story. I've got some stuff in my'I Ain't Ever Gonna Show This To Anyone' file that's just play around, but if you mean it as a story, I'd like to see it.
 
Re: Re: Re: X-over fic

Originally posted by Rowan


No... I'm serious. Honest. I mean... if it's meant to be a story. I've got some stuff in my'I Ain't Ever Gonna Show This To Anyone' file that's just play around, but if you mean it as a story, I'd like to see it.
oh i've got those:rolleyes:
that's really nice of you to say. the 'ha, right' was meant more like it's-not-going-anywhere-and-i-doubt-i'll-finish-in-the-next-decade. but if i ever do finish i'll be sure to let you know.
 
Okay

I can live with that. Just makin' sure you weren't shooting yourself down.;)
 
we're a funny lot, aren't we??

i have one of those 'i'm never showing this to anybody' piles - well, it's not really a pile, the pieces are just stuck in my notebook under their correct heading -- they're usually snippets that flew into my head and i jotted 'em down - but they'll never go anywhere --


most of my work used to be 'i'm not showing anyone' b/c i was never sure what ppl would think - b/c hadn't found fanfic on the web yet - and was afraid ppl would think i was weird for writing it --- but then, found fic on the web - and realized - hey cool - others do this too! so - then let some ppl read -- got good reactions, so i kept going --

i write longhand - so i scribble stuff on notebook paper, then type it up, then read it 1000 times --- i had a story i'd read over so many times i think i was making stuff up and adding phrases and scenes that weren't there - had to have someone else read it -- (still don't know if it came out the way i really wanted it to - but didn't have much choice - deadline stuff and all)

i wear out pens -- and paper -- i had one of those Fisher space pens - wrote all the ink out in a month --- (part of that was taking notes in class, but most of it was fic writing) --- i wear out pens!

just scrapped 5 pages of the new SG-1 fic i was writing - didn't like where it was going - had one of my characters acting like an idiot - gotta begin again ---


what works for me? oh - i'm *SO* not linear -- usually i scribble down an idea, then hopefully get into writing the story around it --

for instance - the story i just finished - Profiler fic - i had this idea in my head and had to find a way to make it work - and i was adamant about finishing the story - but, i refused to tell anyone what the story was about - for fear that my kindly muse would stop talking - and it worked -- now, that won't work all the time, but it did work for this story -- it was kinda fun dangling my story in front of ppl, then telling them i couldn't give away the plot b/c it would then never get finished -- oh - and listening to Matchbox Twenty seemed to help a lot too! (no, i don't know why)

leaving spacers - i've done that b4 - but it doesn't always work for me either - i've had others suggest that to me - but i seem to run into problems of - 'well, what if something happens in this space that will change the entire outcome of the story' -- like, if i finish the story, then add a part, and it changes the story - i'd have to rewrite the whole thing - that's a hard thing to make yourself do - especially if you write rather slowly ----


okay - i think i'm done rambling now -- thanx for reading ------- :D

H2
 
inspritation

If you've looked at the working titles of my stuff you'll see two albums of music are on my mind when I write SG-1. For my XF fic, there is a music connection, too. Once I got done with "Factor AB+" I had "Deadlines and Commitments" and "Double Vision." One of my favorite titles I've come up with was "Intersection" for the John Doggett fic. I was so pleased with myself that I could do it like the real writers and sum it up in one word that had so many meanings. And on both a physical and character interaction level.

All my life I've found it hardest to title a story. When I was a kid I'd sit in class ready to hand the thing in and be mad/sad/upset/disgusted/fearful I couldn't get a title. Teachers don't like untitled works or something.

I've written at least some part of the story first in any case that comes to mind. I've always felt the title is a tease and the icing to the entire episode of SG-1. By the ending you can know why it's title is what it is. "There But for the Grace of God," "Holiday," "Forever In a Day." By the end, the title sums the whole.

Titles for scripts change during filming. It happened on XF each year. They'd get to the point of releasing the schedule and have ::Untitled:: stuck in there.

In the PDL interview they implied that they were doing direct lifts of other movies. I was a bit shocked. But, it is a trick used a lot in television writing.

I played a bit with Waterworld in my middle fic, so I'm not innocent. It occured to me about halfway through that that was what I was doing... At the start I was just thinking, "what had I not seen yet and would they likely never do because of production cost and extensive CGI costs?" Boats, water and diving on an entirely water covered world.

I've stopped using notes in my writing. I just leave some paragraph breaks. I find that if the story changes, the notes are a hinderance and distraction.
 

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