5.11: Desperate Measures
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i gotta wonder and it's likely wrong, but someone with as huge a god complex as kinsey already has WOULD make an excellent goauld host. he's already got the attitude.
i guess the one question i have right now is where did they get the snake??? i mean you can't just pop down to the local 5 & dime and pick one up
i guess the one question i have right now is where did they get the snake??? i mean you can't just pop down to the local 5 & dime and pick one up
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As SKydiver suggests, hugely egotistical type people may not make good hosts. I know they will get instant access to the symbiote's knowledge, but the symbiote has greater power at controlling the body than the natural host, so if the host is a pain in the bum, it can just keep control, as per most Goa'uld. At which point you sort of lose the benefits of having a long life??
Or is it worthwile simply being alive, if not in control?
Or is it worthwile simply being alive, if not in control?
people as full of them selves as kinsey is just might think HE can control the snake. after all he obviously thinks he's better than everyone else.
someone has also suggested that he seems to think that jack knows the future. since jack's been back in the past, and technically way, way to the future in 1969, that jack is manipulating things his way. kinsey may actually think that he's destined to be prez and jack is subverting him. it seems to play into the god complex.
the more i talk about the guy teh more he bugs me.
here's an idea...remember way back in cotg? there were 2 dead jaffa...where did their snakes go?
the doc says somethign like 'these appear to be pouches' but makes no mention of anything being in them...so where did the two juniors go?
or it is likely that maybourne & co. snagged a few.
now that is a scary thought.
someone has also suggested that he seems to think that jack knows the future. since jack's been back in the past, and technically way, way to the future in 1969, that jack is manipulating things his way. kinsey may actually think that he's destined to be prez and jack is subverting him. it seems to play into the god complex.
the more i talk about the guy teh more he bugs me.
here's an idea...remember way back in cotg? there were 2 dead jaffa...where did their snakes go?
the doc says somethign like 'these appear to be pouches' but makes no mention of anything being in them...so where did the two juniors go?
or it is likely that maybourne & co. snagged a few.
now that is a scary thought.
That would be a good guess, skydiver. But there is also the matter of the Russian held gate.... Who sent Maybourne to the Russians or was it an independent move... that was never explored... Somehow i think that the NID and Kinsey are involved.... (Would a snake want Kinsey? I mean even a nasty goa'uld might have SOME taste! Just kidding... he would think he could handle a goa'uld... so I agree with you on that!)
aide for the showtime deficient
it opens with military trucks driving...low and behold it's the russians...don't ask me what they're saying, no subtitles and all i understand is nyet...anyway,the truck is ambushed and it's revealed they're transporting a jaffa....ought ooh...
now we see sam leaving her health club (exercizing on a sat mornign...uggh)
she walks to her car, tosses her bag in the trunk and a white van pulls up and guys jump out. she gets a few licks in but they over power her adn she's tossed inside
now we're at the sgc, it's monday and sam isn't there. must be late monday cause hammy says forensics didnt' find anything at her house, danny says the police found her car in the lot by the health club 12 blocks from her house. so thery're thinking she's been kidnapped or somethign, but outside of the mountain they have zero jurisdcition so...nothgin they can officially do. but jack says. 'doesn't mean we can't look?' (yes shippers, he still cares)
cut to sam waking up restrained to the bed, guys come in tell her she's in the hospital then drug her through an iv. she's back out.
jacks looking, he finds a bum who saw the whole thing, it was ninjas in a white van...
jack, with danny's help, leaves a message for harry via the net. starsky contact hutch (or vice versa)
jack goes bakc to the bum and low and behold harry shows up, with a beard and mustach..very dapper. harry knows nothing about where she is. and now it's been four days. harry tells him to check out user 4574(yep...colonel q is back)
jack calls it in and danny & hammy know exactly who to blame.
jack goes to the pentagon and confronts simmons...who of course knows nothing.
danny does more research, seems harry was paid 3 million from an account by this company. whose owner hasn't been seen in public for 6 months....
meanwhile harry goes to confront another person at this company (can't recall all the names, we'll jsut call her stupid chick, you'll see why later). he threatens her, she won't spill.
jack now catches up iwth harry, who tells him jack won't kill him cause harry has the name of the doctor whos treating rich dude (adrian conrad...who my fingers keep spelling adrain)
they go to the doctors office and discover that adrian has bertrand's syndrom...a fatal disease ruining his immune system. now this is just the thing a snake can cure. they put two and two together and realize that he's the baddie here.
(harry fans, rest assured, yes harry gave them the snake, but he didn't know they were going to use sam...so he's not all bad)
turns out this corporation owns st. catherine's hospital in seattle....and adraian is sick enough to need constant care so...off they go.
meanwhile sam manages to escape, actually she tries several times, such an uncooperative captive. this time she practically makes it to the exits (ok total irony here, she's trying to escape and follows the exit signs...gotta love osha)
anyway, adrian tells her his precidament, and she's not totally callous to it but also these are the kids who have been keeping her drugged for days...
they chain her back to the bed. adrian takes a turn for the worse and they realize they have to implant him now. so they do (do not ask me know they get the snake outta the tank and into him...we'll never find out)
adrain of course is healing and all nice...but the doctors dont know how to get the snake back outta him. stupid chick wants it gone, see she;s got a crush abotu the size of cheyenne mountain on him and wants her adrain back.
the doctors say the only chance they have of finding a 'cure' is to examine sam's brain tissue, something adrian didnt' want them to do. stupid chick doesn't care. she tells them to do ti.
so...danny goes in the front door of the hospital' i need to see a doctor, i almost electroctued myself'
'you have to leave' the guard says
'i have insurance,' danny says back
'this hospital is closed.'
'i said i was almost electrocuted, do you have any idea what that feels like?'
the gurad comes closer...and danny zats him...and the second one.
'abotu like that' he quips....yes, once again danny got quote of the week
so they're in, so is jack and harry....and the big bad evil doctors are going to carry out stupid chicks order and carve sam open like a turkey...
sam realizes, starts to really fight them, as well as she can cuffed to abed....jsut as they're starting to stick a needle in her...jack and harry barge in.
sam gets second place with 'very dramatic,. thank you'
yes shippers you do get a moment, as harry takes the bad guys into the hall there is a glance and i think a brief hand touch...not much but better than last week
now they realize they have a problem, seems danny and tealc' have found stupid chick's body. see adrain convinced her that he was in control of the snake and he jsut wanted to hold her hand so he unrestrained him...like i said , stupid chick
so we got a goauld running loose.
amazingly mobile for being drugged half out of her mind for the better part of a week sam helps jack look for it, as do danny and teal'c while harry is left behind to guard the prisoners...(yes harry gets away...jack's way of saying thank you i think)
after much searching in halls we see jack going down to the boiler room...and if your'e a homicical alien where will yougo??? wow you guessed it, the dark and scary place.
jack finds him...is about to shoot him...as somone shoots jack!!!! in the back no less...and the villian is....COLONEL Q
gee there's a shocker. simmons helps the snake get away. sam finds jack...he wants sleeves on bullet proof vests....
cut to the infirmary. jack is in bed, hammy and sam at his side...simmons is gone and there is a snake on the loose....
fade to black
no overt shippiness...but more than last week and enough to project your little hearts out...everyone keep your eyes on helio...this is gonna spawn a few dozen fic...
now off to bed for me...be back with wormhole extreme in a few hours
it opens with military trucks driving...low and behold it's the russians...don't ask me what they're saying, no subtitles and all i understand is nyet...anyway,the truck is ambushed and it's revealed they're transporting a jaffa....ought ooh...
now we see sam leaving her health club (exercizing on a sat mornign...uggh)
she walks to her car, tosses her bag in the trunk and a white van pulls up and guys jump out. she gets a few licks in but they over power her adn she's tossed inside
now we're at the sgc, it's monday and sam isn't there. must be late monday cause hammy says forensics didnt' find anything at her house, danny says the police found her car in the lot by the health club 12 blocks from her house. so thery're thinking she's been kidnapped or somethign, but outside of the mountain they have zero jurisdcition so...nothgin they can officially do. but jack says. 'doesn't mean we can't look?' (yes shippers, he still cares)
cut to sam waking up restrained to the bed, guys come in tell her she's in the hospital then drug her through an iv. she's back out.
jacks looking, he finds a bum who saw the whole thing, it was ninjas in a white van...
jack, with danny's help, leaves a message for harry via the net. starsky contact hutch (or vice versa)
jack goes bakc to the bum and low and behold harry shows up, with a beard and mustach..very dapper. harry knows nothing about where she is. and now it's been four days. harry tells him to check out user 4574(yep...colonel q is back)
jack calls it in and danny & hammy know exactly who to blame.
jack goes to the pentagon and confronts simmons...who of course knows nothing.
danny does more research, seems harry was paid 3 million from an account by this company. whose owner hasn't been seen in public for 6 months....
meanwhile harry goes to confront another person at this company (can't recall all the names, we'll jsut call her stupid chick, you'll see why later). he threatens her, she won't spill.
jack now catches up iwth harry, who tells him jack won't kill him cause harry has the name of the doctor whos treating rich dude (adrian conrad...who my fingers keep spelling adrain)
they go to the doctors office and discover that adrian has bertrand's syndrom...a fatal disease ruining his immune system. now this is just the thing a snake can cure. they put two and two together and realize that he's the baddie here.
(harry fans, rest assured, yes harry gave them the snake, but he didn't know they were going to use sam...so he's not all bad)
turns out this corporation owns st. catherine's hospital in seattle....and adraian is sick enough to need constant care so...off they go.
meanwhile sam manages to escape, actually she tries several times, such an uncooperative captive. this time she practically makes it to the exits (ok total irony here, she's trying to escape and follows the exit signs...gotta love osha)
anyway, adrian tells her his precidament, and she's not totally callous to it but also these are the kids who have been keeping her drugged for days...
they chain her back to the bed. adrian takes a turn for the worse and they realize they have to implant him now. so they do (do not ask me know they get the snake outta the tank and into him...we'll never find out)
adrain of course is healing and all nice...but the doctors dont know how to get the snake back outta him. stupid chick wants it gone, see she;s got a crush abotu the size of cheyenne mountain on him and wants her adrain back.
the doctors say the only chance they have of finding a 'cure' is to examine sam's brain tissue, something adrian didnt' want them to do. stupid chick doesn't care. she tells them to do ti.
so...danny goes in the front door of the hospital' i need to see a doctor, i almost electroctued myself'
'you have to leave' the guard says
'i have insurance,' danny says back
'this hospital is closed.'
'i said i was almost electrocuted, do you have any idea what that feels like?'
the gurad comes closer...and danny zats him...and the second one.
'abotu like that' he quips....yes, once again danny got quote of the week
so they're in, so is jack and harry....and the big bad evil doctors are going to carry out stupid chicks order and carve sam open like a turkey...
sam realizes, starts to really fight them, as well as she can cuffed to abed....jsut as they're starting to stick a needle in her...jack and harry barge in.
sam gets second place with 'very dramatic,. thank you'
yes shippers you do get a moment, as harry takes the bad guys into the hall there is a glance and i think a brief hand touch...not much but better than last week
now they realize they have a problem, seems danny and tealc' have found stupid chick's body. see adrain convinced her that he was in control of the snake and he jsut wanted to hold her hand so he unrestrained him...like i said , stupid chick
so we got a goauld running loose.
amazingly mobile for being drugged half out of her mind for the better part of a week sam helps jack look for it, as do danny and teal'c while harry is left behind to guard the prisoners...(yes harry gets away...jack's way of saying thank you i think)
after much searching in halls we see jack going down to the boiler room...and if your'e a homicical alien where will yougo??? wow you guessed it, the dark and scary place.
jack finds him...is about to shoot him...as somone shoots jack!!!! in the back no less...and the villian is....COLONEL Q
gee there's a shocker. simmons helps the snake get away. sam finds jack...he wants sleeves on bullet proof vests....
cut to the infirmary. jack is in bed, hammy and sam at his side...simmons is gone and there is a snake on the loose....
fade to black
no overt shippiness...but more than last week and enough to project your little hearts out...everyone keep your eyes on helio...this is gonna spawn a few dozen fic...
now off to bed for me...be back with wormhole extreme in a few hours
me love you long time sky
sounds interesting....even if it had only mild shippiness.
health club - y the hey is she going there. "i don't think my health is quite up to standards" that may be due to the fact that you work your ass off 24/7 and then there's jolinar, the entity, a whole lot of dead intergalatic bfs and you relationship with your co (which is dead this season)
ciao
jaxie
sounds interesting....even if it had only mild shippiness.
health club - y the hey is she going there. "i don't think my health is quite up to standards" that may be due to the fact that you work your ass off 24/7 and then there's jolinar, the entity, a whole lot of dead intergalatic bfs and you relationship with your co (which is dead this season)
ciao
jaxie
Finally some genuine concern for Sam! After last weeks episode I was beginning to wonder.
We see Jack especially concerned about her, as is only fitting for a friend and comrade. Yes, there is a look when he rescues her which could be read as true affection for you shippers. Or it could just be the normal concern for a good friend and comrade.
I agree that Daniel got the best line. Loved the part where he goes "just about like that" after zatting the guards.
No gate travel this week but despite that I think this was a pretty good episode. We got to see that all is not perfect here on earth and there are other powers at work besides the SGC.
Anyone wonder what Maybourne actually knows. He did seem actually concerned for Sam, not sure if that is genuine or not.
Just exactly who is Simmons working for or what is he after? Guess we will have to wait and see.
We see Jack especially concerned about her, as is only fitting for a friend and comrade. Yes, there is a look when he rescues her which could be read as true affection for you shippers. Or it could just be the normal concern for a good friend and comrade.
I agree that Daniel got the best line. Loved the part where he goes "just about like that" after zatting the guards.
No gate travel this week but despite that I think this was a pretty good episode. We got to see that all is not perfect here on earth and there are other powers at work besides the SGC.
Anyone wonder what Maybourne actually knows. He did seem actually concerned for Sam, not sure if that is genuine or not.
Just exactly who is Simmons working for or what is he after? Guess we will have to wait and see.
I loved Daniel's electrocution dialogue...very clever!
The only problem is they think that Mayborne shot Jack!! They don't even know that Simmons was there or that he has the goa'uld!! ACK! That's not good!
Not much shippiness at all, was there? More like a concern any CO would show for a team member who was kidnapped. This doesn't bother me, since I'm not a shipper anyway (I'm more of a Daniel/Sam wishful shipper ) but I'm afraid some shippers might be disappointed.
OH!!! And did anyone catch that line at the Pentagon when Simmons was spouting his all-mighty crap, and Jack said that sounds so familiar! Yep, Kinsey's got a hand in this apparently!
The only problem is they think that Mayborne shot Jack!! They don't even know that Simmons was there or that he has the goa'uld!! ACK! That's not good!
Not much shippiness at all, was there? More like a concern any CO would show for a team member who was kidnapped. This doesn't bother me, since I'm not a shipper anyway (I'm more of a Daniel/Sam wishful shipper
) but I'm afraid some shippers might be disappointed.OH!!! And did anyone catch that line at the Pentagon when Simmons was spouting his all-mighty crap, and Jack said that sounds so familiar! Yep, Kinsey's got a hand in this apparently!
i think we have a translation problem. a health club in the states is where you go to exercise, a gym with exercise equipment.
don't totally dispair about the lack of shippyness...this epi was better. no one mention sam's concern for jack when he was shot. some good looks and a few pats there too.
Umm.......... not a translation problem, perhaps a perception problem though.......
A Health Club is where you go to exercise and do workouts in the gym in the UK too!!
Believe it or not...... we have health clubs, gyms AND indoor plumbing in merrie olde England too!
A Health Club is where you go to exercise and do workouts in the gym in the UK too!!
Believe it or not...... we have health clubs, gyms AND indoor plumbing in merrie olde England too!
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Well i enjoyed this ep. it was nice to see maybourne. loved the beard. he forced me to change my avatar back yet again. wonder if i can find one with a beard...
wonder if i can find one with a beard...For an episode that's primarily here to set up future events (hopefully) it was pretty cool. The whole NID/Conspiracy story line has come roaring back with a vengeance!
I really liked the confrontation scene between Simmons and Jack. Those two are perfectly matched adversaries. And now NID has their very own tame goa'uld, that is just too scary for words.
Loved your coining "stupid chick", skydiver. Catches her perfectly. What a moron. Bummer, good point that they all think Harry shot Jack. That should make the next Harry episode verrry interesting.
Really enjoyed Maybourne in this one. Coincidentially, just the night before I read a fic on www.frondic.com (also stargatefan.com, I think), that had Harry convincing Jack to trust him to work a sting against NID. It was eerie how closely Tanya's Harry matches the new, gentler, I-gotta-start-thinking-about-my-karma Harry. I wish I could remember the name now, but I *think* the title is something like "A Question of Ethics". It's too hard to jump websites from the dinosaur computer I'm on. I'll post it later.
I didn't even realize Jack had been shot until Sam said so -- I just thought Simmons had slugged him over the head or something. Whoa.
I really liked the confrontation scene between Simmons and Jack. Those two are perfectly matched adversaries. And now NID has their very own tame goa'uld, that is just too scary for words.
Loved your coining "stupid chick", skydiver. Catches her perfectly. What a moron. Bummer, good point that they all think Harry shot Jack. That should make the next Harry episode verrry interesting.
Really enjoyed Maybourne in this one. Coincidentially, just the night before I read a fic on www.frondic.com (also stargatefan.com, I think), that had Harry convincing Jack to trust him to work a sting against NID. It was eerie how closely Tanya's Harry matches the new, gentler, I-gotta-start-thinking-about-my-karma Harry. I wish I could remember the name now, but I *think* the title is something like "A Question of Ethics". It's too hard to jump websites from the dinosaur computer I'm on. I'll post it later.
I didn't even realize Jack had been shot until Sam said so -- I just thought Simmons had slugged him over the head or something. Whoa.
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