Dragon Foes

[Aegon the Unworthy]

What you need is a bald Matthew McConaughey, an axe, and a half-smoked cigar......the dragon wont stand a chance.

 

[Young stormlord]

In that case, a suit of Valyrian Steel Plate Armor might come in more than handy.

Too bad Valyria is now flaming pit. All you need is guverner of California dressed like Conan and the world is saved.

 

[Thoheeks Bili]

The suit of Valaryian armour may be impenetrable, yet I'm sure it's not heat resistant .

My Axe ..................quickly!

 

[Boaz]

So we can rule out Sandor,with his pyrophobia, from becoming a Dragonslayer?

 

[Fourth Hunter]

Fourth Hunter, who do you think these Dragon-Hunters-to-be are? Jon? Tyrion? Jaime? Euron? Brienne? Thoros? Anguy? Gendry? Edric Storm? Asha? Arya? Bran?

Boaz, I mostly said this as a joke, but I really do believe that small assassination forces will have a better chance of killing a dragon than an entire army, as they may have the ability to sneak up on one while it sleeps. That being said, Jon aquired too much of his father's, (different argument), honor, so it will not be him. Any of the others, especially Jaime (has the bravery and is willing to do what ends up being right regardless of the impact on his reputation), could be in this force.

 

[Boaz]

FH, I believe that non-conventional warfare must be employed to take down Dany's dragons. I'd not thought of the characters I'd named as fighting together. I saw them as lone heroes or leaders of small groups.

 

[Thoheeks Bili]

I think that the Maesters( or Faceless men) using poison would be the way to go. You know, a whole cow out on a field coated with the Tears of Lys( tasteless) would do the trick without much blood shed incured from the footsoldiers .
The last 2 killed (with the mastiff sized head) are probably around the same size as Dany's are right now( at the end of Feast) and you see how unruly the Black is becoming( apparently killed a child ) , thus if one is to make the attempt, it should be when they are younger and less experienced with the ways of man. There also seems to be no "controlling" them as of yet, so maybe the Bran & Jon warg abilities will come to play along those lines?
You would think that all the magic users throughout the world would flock to keep them safe as they seem to be the fount of magic...........Dany may play that card in the future? Nah, she just wants Westeros as her dominion( and to free all the slaves, and to destroy bad rulers, and to abolish the fighting pits, and to generally save the world )
Are you pondering what I'm pondering?

My Axe..........quickly!

 

[Fourth Hunter]

I also don't think that those characters will march together, but rather one would act as leader of a 3-5 man strike force.

 

[Boaz]

a whole cow out on a field coated with the Tears of Lys( tasteless) would do the trick without much blood shed incured from the footsoldiers

This is what I imagine Littlefinger doing to stop Dany... I mean if he's in it for himself... I'm still of half a mind that he's a closet Targ.

 

[TK-421]

Littlefinger is not a closet Targ but a closet Targ loyalist. Just like Mace, the Queen of Thorns and company.

 

[Aegon the Unworthy]

Petyr is a closet petyr-loyalist. Maybe not so closet.....No debate, so save your useless rhetoric.....Aegon out!

Sorry....channeling old Ryan Seacrest there.

By the way, I love these threads that meander all over the place. I have a confession to make....I actively try to derail em sometimes (unless its my thread then thats different). Yes, my name is Aegon, and Im a thread-derailer.

 

[Culhwch]

You shouldn't have made that confession, Aegon. We have a room for people like you...

 

[Aegon the Unworthy]

Yes but if its done by you Aussies itll be all cheerful with G'days and shrimps on the barbies and girls in bikinis that think my american accent is sexy and the like. Or is that a stereotype?

 

[Young stormlord]

Lol . Let's get back on the thread shall we?
Arya once said something like "Angi had regular arrows for hunting and thin one that can brake any armor". So my guess is that small cloud of arrows should do the trick.

People don't like Americans in my country. I wander why? I mean does it have anything to do with year 1999?

 

[Culhwch]

What happened in 1999? There's nothing wrong with Americans. They gave us so many wonderful things, like... cheese in a can, for instance.

I don't recall any direct comparison between dragon skin and conventional armour, but bodkins such as Anguy carries were really only effective against light armour, not plate (at least not at any king of distance), and I imagine they wouldn't have much effect on a full-grown dragon (though this is of course fiction, so who knows?). But I think it would require more than a small cloud, and by the time a group of archers had launched one volley and tried to notch a second shaft, they'd probably be nicely toasted...

 

[Young stormlord]

Then have 3 groups of archers and make them shoot like machine gun .

About 1999, well they needed place to test some new weapons and they have chosen my country. Which wasn't so bad because school wasn't working because of bombing. But we still got one of those stealth planes down. (F117 A)

 

[Funky Cthulu]

What happened in 1999? There's nothing wrong with Americans. They gave us so many wonderful things, like... cheese in a can, for instance.

I don't recall any direct comparison between dragon skin and conventional armour, but bodkins such as Anguy carries were really only effective against light armour, not plate (at least not at any king of distance), and I imagine they wouldn't have much effect on a full-grown dragon (though this is of course fiction, so who knows?). But I think it would require more than a small cloud, and by the time a group of archers had launched one volley and tried to notch a second shaft, they'd probably be nicely toasted...

There is also the issue of how much penetration of the skin the arrows could get, and how much that would really bother such a massive beast. Once full grown, it seems rather like the equivalent of attacking a grizzly bear with a hatpin. I suspect it would just madden the dragons, leading to more carnage.
Perhaps if they could be lured onto ground concealing a huge pit? The dragon lands, settles its full weight onto the ground, only to find the realistic looking turf giving way, tumbling rider and beast into a large, spike filled pit, as hidden fighters rush out to hurl flammable liquid and torches (or spears) in after them. That would probably kill the rider, at least.

 

[Thoheeks Bili]

Taken from a previous post of mine elsewhere! As far as a large beast is concerned.......in the eye is the easiest and best way to start their downfall( from a distance), as most large animals are stronger than humans. The fact that there is also sword sized teeth, gouts of fire, lashing tails, and buffets of wind notwithstanding , may have something to do with that though!
You better make sure you finish him off the first time though as a pain maddened dragon on the loose is truly a frightful idea


My Axe............quickly!

 

[Weasel Soup]

Culhwch, to what the stromlord was referencing, I had just reread that chapter 2 days ago.

Martin's quote regarding bodkins: pg 531 Softcover Amer Edition Bantam Publishing, ASOS

"He fell heavily. Anguy had arrows tipped with bodkins as well as broadheads. A bodkin could pierce even heavy plate. I am going to learn to shoot a bow, Arya Thought."

YS, while bringing down a Stealth may be comparable to slaying a dragon in modern vernacular, having had friends who were civilians of both nations during that time, I do not believe this is a good forum for that discussion. While talking long distance to a Lukic and then locally to a Smith, the only thing that can be said, it was and continues to be a tragedy.

 

[Culhwch]

FC: Not much use hurling flammale liquid or torches on them, born in fire and all that...

WS: Precisely why I added that fiction disclaimer. But then Martin usually tends to be a stickler for realism. I imagine Anguy was either overstating to impress Arya, or Arya misinterpreted, hearing what she wanted to hear. But a bodkin will pierce plate, so it's true, but only at a range to close to not be realistically viable against a dragon. I'm with FC, they aren't going to bother a dragon too much.

I think someone has already mentioned it, but I would reckon targeting their wings is the best tactic. How, I'm not so sure. Perhaps some sort of chain-shot, delivered by catapult or similar.