Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell (Book Club)

There are, however, several characters that I found much more interesting and likeable than Strange or Norrell -- and I think it would have been a better book if we had been allowed to see more of them: Childermass, Lady Pole, Arabella Strange, and Stephen Black. I'm of two minds about whether we should see more of the Thistle-haired Gentleman; I found him fascinating, but like the magic perhaps he would have lost some of his sinister glamour if he had played a larger role.

I agree with this- I would have LOVED to know more especially about Childermass, Arabella, and Stephen Black. I found Arabella to be such a delightful character, and I didn't think Strange deserved her, really ;-) It seemed like he ignored her through most of their marriage, then mourned her very deeply, and then when he found her again, he just sort of ditched her. I read the book about two years ago, I think, and so most of the details are fuzzy, at best, but she was one of those characters that sometimes glide through books that I sometimes think I could be good friends with, were she actually to exist.
 
I know more people than this have read the book. I wish some of you would join in the discussion.

Some of us have told why we love the book -- isn't it about time for those who really dislike it to jump in with both feet?
 
Teresa, I think your review is spot on and well put. For me, however, the flaws are more significant. It was tough working through this much book without characters that were more likable, compelling or intriguing. I also thought there wasn’t enough oomph to the overall story or plot line. After wading through this tome, I ended up with a “so what” feeling. I would have liked the book a lot more if there were more spice to either the characters or the story, if not both. I agree that it’s an impressive work, but not one that I would recommend or return to for any reason. Of course, I’m not that much of a fantasy reader anyway.

As for your last question, I thought it might the Thistle-haired Gentleman.
 
I read this book a year back, I think. I had the (still quite huge) trade paperback and used to carry it to work in a special bag so that I could lug it to lunch and back. In other words, I enjoyed it. Susanna Clarke may or may not have captured the flavour of Regency-era prose to perfection (personally I think she's done just enough to get the atmosphere without making the actual reading process a slog), she has captured the leisured, large and lavish feel of a novel of that era. The story unfolds at its own pace, and even dithers about a bit (I felt some of Strange's wanderings on the continent after losing Mrs Strange were a bit pointless), but does take you to several interesting places along the way. I think the characters are true to their era - the dry, humourless Norrell, the not especially interesting but, at least, less boring Strange and so on. The story itself, with it's intimations of a secret fairy-ridden history behind the scenes of Wellignton's battles is fantastic enough that the mundane characters help to ground the story somewhat. I also found the depiction of magic in the book satisfying - it is mysterious, but can be learned, but not without a price. I wonder if Clarke's theme of the rediscovery of magic and especialyl of practical magic anything to do with the rationalism of the age of reason and the indsutrial reason and is her own commentary or response to it, or if magic is just something interesting to write a story about. The footnotes are both a joy and a pain. I enjoyed many, but skipped others. Personally I think Clarke should impose a simple rule on herself, or her typographers - not to let a footnote run beyond the page it is appended to. It's been a while since I read the book, just thought I'd joy down a few general impressions.
 
Sorry, but I have given up on finishing this book. I made it about halfway through, and just can't do any more.It's just not my type of book.
 
For me, there was a huge sense of accomplishment upon finishing this book. I don't mean this due to the length, I routinely read books of this length or longer. It was more like finally completeing a huge project.
I did not go into reading this book with much anticipation. I found the beginning to be horribly mundane, almost unbearably monotonous, really. It took a good 350-400 pages for me to decide that I might actually like to finish it. However; after paying 12.95 CAD for it, I was quite reluctant to give up entirely, and I'm extremely glad I didn't.
While admittedly not the most fast paced, or engrossing book I've ever read, JS&MN had a good payout. I really did find myself enjoying it alot toward the end.
As to the storyline, I was really hoping for more from the infamous Library of Mr Norrell. It was completely anticlimactic for me. The whole lead up to JS's encounter with the library was a huge part of the texture of the story, and I felt let down by it's reality. I'm not saying that I expected something fantastical, I just truly thought it would be a more major event. That said, I'm not sure why exactly I expected something major from this book. While I am fond of JS&MN, it's just not the type of book to give you that `wow` moment.
I definitly think this book is an acquired taste. It is certainly not for everyone, Hugo award or no. You really have to take it as a journey type of book. Do not expect a huge, spectacular ending. It just wouldn't fit. The ending is just as meandering and nonsensical as the rest of the book.
Anyway, this post has gone quite to the rambling side. Just wanted to add something to the discussion.
Lena.
 
I'd agree completely that it's not a 'wow' book. Fantasy books tend to justify their size with great dollops of action, suspense and magic, which is why they're so fat, by and large. Clarke is not at all writing in that vein and despite the size, and physical strenght needed to grapple with that size, this is more of a gentle, quietly pleasurable reading experience than a nail-biting race.
 
I started the book and was really enjoying it, but I have been so busy lately I can't seem to set aside a block of time to read more. *Sigh* It's just not the kind of book I can read for 5 minutes at a time and stay focused. I doubt I will get to it in time to be included in this discussion this month. *Sigh again*
 
Sorry, but I have given up on finishing this book. I made it about halfway through, and just can't do any more. It's just not my type of book.

At halfway through a book that size, I'd say you made a good effort.

I agree with knivesout that it's a book of quiet pleasures, rather than a story with a Wow factor. (The Wow in my own case simply being that such a book was published at all.)

Considering that most fantasy readers crave ever more action and excitement in their reading, the popularity of JS&MN has surprised me. It seems that you don't need massive amounts of sex and violence to write a book that will appeal to a wide number of readers. I find that heartening.

But I can see how the style and the unsympathetic main characters could spoil the book for many readers, even those who aren't looking for something sensational to read.

Razorback -- The idea that the Thistle-haired Gentleman might be the party in question never occurred to me, but now that you mention it, it would have made a fascinating twist!
 
My 2c.

I read it a while ago. While Clarke took 10 years to write it I took 3 months to read it. Not that I had a hard time to finish it, no, far from that. I quite enjoyed it in fact. It's just not a book to devour but to savor. And I had other books to read at the same time. I appreciated the style, flavour, the subtle humour and wit, the characterization and the history of English Magic. But I did skip some footnotes and felt it got tedious here and there and could do with some trimmings especially the 1st half. I wouldn't say it's a masterpiece neither agree with what Neil Gaiman said 'unquestionably the finest English novel of the fantastic written in the last seventy years'. However it's a remarkable achievement not only in the sense of being a debut.
 
I'm very late to this but I wanted to say this is one of my all time favorite books. I have to admit, it took me quite a few pages to actually get into it. I don't think I was hooked until the actual magic began when the statues began talking. From then on I couldn't get my nose out of it. One of the things I really enjoyed was Susanna Clarkes style of writing, as if the book were written in during the period it takes place. I found it extremely enjoyable.
 

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