ADWD Publish Date? (I hope not)

Well, much to comfort of his devoted fans (not those fairweather ones) GRRM is not rushing and thus the quality of ADWD will assuredly be as high as the others.

And, about Ned being Jon's father...either the joke will be on those of us who like this theory of Jon being a Targ OR those who laugh at us now will be served a big helping of crow pie.
 
That has been mentioned a couple of times, but we appreciate the input. Normally new people get a little time, and a few posts in before they are taunted. Its like a grace period. I am looking at you BOAZ and Florian:). Keep in mind that you haven't really arrived until 1. Boaz taunts you 2. Aegon the Unlikely compliments you on a ridiculously unlikey theory and 3. Raven and Wert tell you that your idea is impossible because you didn't read the books carefully enough. Anyway let me be the first to welcome you to the forum.

I want my honourable mention damnit
 
Personally i would rather wait and let GRMM maintain the high standard of writing. There would be nothing worse than if he rushed the book, just because we couldn't wait and we all moan about the result.
Amen.

I am sure the DNA test proved clearly that Ned was Jon's father.
The only way that a DNA Test will prove Ned's paternity is if DNA stands for Do Not Ask.

Yet is it not ironic that the man who delved into the parentage of Robert's bastards and who learned the truth of the parentage of Robert's heirs is the very man who we doubt was Jon's natural father. Ned worked so hard to cover up the origins of Jon (either his ******* or his sister's), but he was undone by the search to find the truth about his best friend's kids. Eddard should have given others the grace he so demanded for himself.
 
there is the difference that Jon stood to inherit nothing, while the Lannister bastards, are next in line for the throne.
 
Ned worked so hard to cover up the origins of Jon (either his ******* or his sister's), but he was undone by the search to find the truth about his best friend's kids. Eddard should have given others the grace he so demanded for himself.

I can't really blame him. No one wants another "mad king." Joff caused all kinds of problems during his stint on the throne, and he was really just a puppet of his mother and grandfather.
 
Well Ned and John kind of look exactly the same. Can't you bafoons go read another book or something instead of just talking about crap that can't be proven until ADWD which will probably be the last book before George calls it quits.

Keep it civil, Gregor>Sandor. Lay off the name calling, it's against forum rules. If you're not into discussing aSoIaF, I don't see why you'd be on these threads in the first place. If you have nothing constructive to add, please don't add anything at all.
 
Well Ned and John kind of look exactly the same. Can't you bafoons go read another book or something instead of just talking about crap that can't be proven until ADWD which will probably be the last book before George calls it quits.

Has GRRM given pictures of Ned and John then? I think not.
I dont think they look-alike.

I'm guessing you're just here to flame. If so, it says enough you find that funny.
 
Your career goal, being the worst comedian out there EVER
 
Your career goal, being the worst comedian out there EVER

Nope, he's just a 16-year-old kid with a fluffy cat picture on his Myspace who thinks he's being cool by insulting people older than him for no reason.

ADWD which will probably be the last book before George calls it quits.

GRRM is many things, but a contract-breaker is not one of them. He'd get in severe trouble with his US publisher (Bantam), his UK publisher (HarperCollins) and with HBO, who are making the TV series based on the idea that they'll have a completed story to work with.
 
he not going to break contract it a laughable idea....even if he wanted too which i don't think he does

he get lawsuits for US and UK publisher plus i guessing he have problems publishing again so for those reason alone he finished the series plus the next two books are a bit more plain out stories wise
 
I think you will find that we are all descended from the apes Gregor.
 
Just a word on such people (we really need to post a sign in front of the cages, I suppose;)): "Please don't feed the trolls".....
 
Well actually it has been stated that Jon does look very much like Ned although this could be because he looks like a Stark, as did Lyanna....
 
I am confused, weren't we talking about a possible resemblance in appearance between Eddard Stark and Jon Arryn?
 
No no, you're the one who brought up the Arryns. The flaming troll was using the resemblance between Jon and Eddard to support his claim that they were father and son.
 

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