Not the sharpest swords in the armory

Which is not sharpest sword in armory?

  • Robb Stark

    Votes: 14 29.2%
  • Edmure Tully

    Votes: 10 20.8%
  • Theon Greyjoy

    Votes: 11 22.9%
  • Astapor slavetraders

    Votes: 13 27.1%

  • Total voters
    48
It is a toss up to the slaver and Robb.

The slavers should have been smart enough to know that Dany was going to due something. If I was in that position I would be careful.

But Robb made the biggest bone head mistake a king could due, when he married that sweet Westerling girl. Losing half his army in the process.

So Robb is the winner by a head, because he lost his for that mistake.
 
Funny Theon has gotten no votes, even though, he:

a) did not even recognize his sister and was coming onto her;
b) thought that his papa would bend the knee to Robb; and
c) didn't see that Bolton's ******* would betray him at Winterfell.

So, what's the consensus on Theon? Is he just an arrogant cowardly little sh@#t?
 
The 'advantage' that theon has, is that he has been pictured as an idiot/villain from the beginning. His stupidity doesn't come as a surprise.:p
 
Took me quite some time to figure out who to vote for.

Edmure Tully not really stupid he just wasnt informed of what the plans were and therefore acted as he felt was the smart move at the time.

The Slavers were not really stupid in the sense of the word stupid, they werre just tricked by Danny as they didnt know she spoke the language and therefore had the situation under their control.

Theon was actually smart, but didnt think his plan through, he had a plan perfected it to perfection and then he didnt think of what to do next, kind of like Bush :rolleyes:

My vote goes to Robb, his stupidity came from inexperience. His marriage for love is a beautifull thing, but stupid thing to do, i think Robb didnt think of The Late Walder as a threat, only thought of him as a silly old man.
Karstark affair couldnt have ended in any other way, so no foul there.
And then there are all the little things, losing his only real bargaining chip againt the lannisters and so on, just to many small mistakes and they added up to what is called "The Weding Incident" :)
 
the Astapor slavetraders have my vote. they committed the worst of errors, effectively sold the armour and sword off their back and gave it to a possible enemy as they stood there naked with nothing to show for it.
 
Well I've voted for Robb after much consideration!
I think the slavers were stupid, but I don't really care enough about them as characters to be infuriated by their stupidity, the same way I was when Robb married Jeyne Westerling.
I really liked Robb, so it pains me to pick him, but after it took so much effort to secure the Frey alliance, to lose it in that way (which really could have been avoided) is awful, especially as the boy had done so well in battle - marriage should've been the easy part.
 
I see after having put my vote in it is quite close between Robb and the Slavetraders. After much contemplation, I myself voted for Robb.

Robb was one of my favorite characters, until he made the huge mistake of marrying Jeyne Westerling. I'm all for marrying for love, but he had to know there would be major consequences for that. You knew just reading that section that Robb had done some major damage, but I still didn't see the Red Wedding coming. Quite the shocker.
 
I vote for the Astapori slavers, who made the single biggest blunder of any of those listed.

But Robb Stark is a case study in political folly, which is worth examining in some detail. The breaking of the Frey alliance, and sending Theon as an envoy to Pyke, are well understood errors.

But perhaps Robb's worst mistake was in letting the Greatjon bellow, "King in the North!"

There is more than one way to lose control of your bannermen. The most obvious way is through their insubordination, but Robb's crowning showed us another way of bannermen usurping authority from their liege.

By letting his lords crown him while in their cups, Robb lost any control over his war aims, and thus enormously complicated his own strategic predicament.

How could he ally with any of the Baratheon claimants, or with the Tyrells, after repudiating the Iron Throne?

This momentous decision--a transition from limited to total war, meanwhile forsaking any allies--was made without a minute's reflection on Robb's part.
 
Thanks for bringing this one back. I voted for Robb. "I will sacrifice my entire Kingdom, my war, all of my alliances, and the lives of thousands, including my closest friends and family, because I got laid. Yes, that sounds like a noble idea."

n00b.
 
I'd choose Robb Stark, for his lack of common sense. He neglected his kingdom to wage war while failing to practice sound diplomacy. Although Robb shares Eddard's idealism and nobility, his mistakes were serious and easily avoided. Eddard, on the other hand, was dealing with forces beyond his control.

Edmure failed as a general, but can hardly be blamed for upsetting Robb's plans. It reflects on Robb, because he should have told Edmure not engage Tywin's army. Theon's plan wasn't bad, simply too ambitious. He did, after all, gain control of Winterfell, although that reflects more on Ser Rodrik's stupidity (castles have garrisons for a reason).
 
I'd have to go for Edmure. Going off on your own without consulting any of your fellow leaders, particularly your direct liege-lord, is just asking for trouble. Didn't it occur to him that there was a reason he got precisely the orders he did? Or that if the others were unaware of his plans it was just possible that he might not know all of theirs???

That being said, Robb didn't exactly cover himself in glory either.
 
Is it too late to vote for Hodor?

My vote goes to Theon. He had nothing but poor reasons and poor reasoning. I can't think of a way to defend him.
 
I have sympathy for Theon. Although, my sweet Asha sure put him in his place. Now I suspect she will be the one to rescue him.
 
I'm going to throw a spanner in the works and say Eddard Stark. Of the four options listed, three can be chalked off to a combination of youth, plain stupidity, bad advice or circumstances beyond their control, and the slavers of Astapor paid the price for grossly under-estimating their opponent. Eddard, on the other hand, was old enough, experienced enough (and should have been savvy enough) to exploit the situation he found himself in to his benefit. Instead, he let his blind commitment to honour get him killed, and more than anyone else damned Westeros to the war that followed.
 
Just re-reading Clash of Kings again.

Theon Greyjoy: what a dipstick!

I mean, he captures Winterfell in a coup de main. But then he's actually dismayed to find the people there no longer like him very much. Duh.

He has valuable Stark, Frey, and Reed hostages but doesn't put a guard on them. Of course he has too few men to guard them. So then why didn't he lock them up? Duh.

And then, after he finds the ******* of Bolton inside his gates with a force much larger than his own, he argues with him over a tavern wench.

Question: will the repeated loss of digits, combined with a diet of raw ratmeat, improve Theon's brain? I guess we'll find out.
 

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