Not the sharpest swords in the armory

[Boaz]

Simian, I don't know how I missed your last post (#39), but I'd like to refer you to "promise me, Ned" and the "value of Howland Reed" thread... specifically page 4 where Aegon and I go back and forth on Eddard's qualities of wisdom and honor. I tend to see things like you, but Aegon puts up a good argument.

Probably the most painful thing about Eddard and Catelyn is that they do things the same way I do. I hate to admit this... In the end, I'm not a sociopath like Oberyn, a cold blooded killer like Bronn, an avaricious bitch like Cersei, nor an amoral manipulator like Littlefinger. Most likely I'd have survived less than a tenth of what the Starks endured at the hands of their enemies.

 

[Ursa major]

As in my post during "The Time the Chrons Forgot", I voted for the Slavetraders. I can't recall my original reasons, but I expect it was along the lines of: there were many of them; they were men of the world (unlike Robb - and I still think there could have been was some magic involved in Robb's betrothal and subsequent behaviour); and they were so stupid, they didn't see a consequence that even I could.


(And Ned was foolish and negligent - or at the very least, a very inexperienced player once thinking and plotting were the main attributes required to stay alive.)

 

[Rider]

Am I the only one to think that the Lord Frey would have killed Robb even if he hadn't married Jeyne Westerling? During the wedding with one of his daughters...

He had too many ties to Lannisters to remain helping the Stark-Tully Realm, compared to what ties he had with others.

It would have been exactly the same, albeit with likely more Stark-Tully men dying under the Twins.

 

[TK-421]

Good old Walder did get a plum political position out of the deal, so there is a chance he would of went through with the Red Wedding, Jeyne Westerling or not. He seems the power-hungry sort. She may have been simply the tipping point.

 

[Cerenna]

Edmure. THE stupidest. Definitely.