Anyone else getting BLOODY peeved off about A Dance With Dragons?

Meh, I don't mind that people complain. It's just another way that shows how deeply passionate people are about this series. It's a testament to its greatness. The day people stop complaining about the wait between books is the day I start to worry about the quality of the series. People wouldn't complain if they didn't love it to begin with.
 
Actually Boaz, about Salvatore - well the earlier books are nothing to write home about, but the dark elf trilogy has a few sparks in the beginning. being a prequel, it deteriorates along the way in order to fit the beginning of the assembly line literature. When dealing with his own ideas for short period of time Salvatore is quite good - readable, probably in my top 500 writers. Martin on the other hand (May he live in health and happiness ever lasting) is currently contending for first place with Bernard Cornwall and Patrick O’Brian.
For the waning people – try to write a piece, say 10000 words long with a quality close to any random selection out of a song of ice and fire in say… a week, and than complain, not a bloody minute before.
 
To an extent. I really like the series, but it's not like there aren't a thousand other good books of the same and differing genres that can be read in the intervening period.
 
Well, I tell you something about waiting. I was seven years old when I readed "Hobbit" very first time. Year was 1982 and Estonia was part of "big friendly family" - Soviet Union Empire behind Iron Curtain. It was time when those sneaky ******* russians in Moscow decided about everything: how to walk, how talk, how to live, how to die. And of course they decided, what kind of books we can read. So they decided that "Hobbit" was harmless book for children, but LOTR has dangerous ideas inside - about freedom, good and evil, fall of an empire. So "Hobbit" was translated into estonian, but no LOTR. IT was only mentioned in the end of the book, that Tolkien wrote also a trilogy where Bilbo and Gandalf and elves and orcs and dwarwes were inside. It's hard to describe that happiness what I feeled when I readed "Hobbit" and I am no writer so lets skip that part. When I have readed book couple of time and calmed down little bit, then I asked my parents to get me LOTR somehow. But it was impossible, they told me and I had to wait and hope. And so I waited. I waited until the fall of Iron Curtain, fall of Soviet Union, ant then we get our independence. And so in Summer 1998 I opened "Fellowship Of The Ring" for first time. I had to wait one book 16 (sixteen) years! And until next year when " Two Towers" was translated and until next year when the Return of the King" was translated.
"Game of Thrones" was translates into estonian in november 2006, but only first half, waht ended when Ned broke his leg. Second part was published in May 2007, but in december 2006 I decided NO NO NO MORE WAITING. And bought all these books in english. I finished AFFC in early summer because without translation it goes very slowly, and now Iam reading them again. All I wanted to say - it's good to wait, it's giving to you a reason to live.
 
Raul, that is impressive. Could you speak or read English before reading the series?
 
Well, yes, I get quite good education and few years ago, when I studied in Finland, I had plenty of time and I fond very good library where was many books in English. So I read them with dictionary beside. And fiction of course. Fighting fantasy books - Lone Wolf series, irish and scottish fairy tales,Robert E. Howard etc. Anyway, in ASOIAF the most difficult part, believe it or not, was description of dishes. I mean, looks like GRRM really like to write about food and eating. Even dictionary didn't help me completely when I was reading about Joffreys wedding and all those 77 dishes.
One thing more about food in ASOIAF. To me most shocking food was when Cersei and Tyrion ate swan. I can understand that in medieval times it was quite common food but in our country we still have our own old pagans believes and religions and swan is one most holy creatures ever. So eating swan is even greater sin than eating American bald headed eagle.OK , last one was a joke. No offence.
 
I mean, looks like GRRM really like to write about food and eating.

Better this than hundreds of pages describing the dresses of every female character in the series.....
 
Better this than hundreds of pages describing the dresses of every female character in the series.....

I wonder who you could be referring to viZion....:rolleyes: though I agree with you.

I really hadn't noticed all the descriptions about food until Raul mentioned it, but now that I think about it, there are lots of descriptions about it.
 
aye well its great to see that atleast a few of you are in agreement with me. And i do have to agree that was one mighty post Boaz, coming from that angle I am now a bit less impatient! cheers mate.

And Im sorry but what are these forums for if not complaining hypothisisng and argueing?
 
god i am! on my 3rd rereading....... heard he was a rather lazy writer, but this is crazy!
 
god i am! on my 3rd rereading....... heard he was a rather lazy writer, but this is crazy!

[shakes head]

When you write a seven-volume epic fantasy series of such epic scope and accomplished story-telling in less time than Martin, then you can call him lazy.

And you do know there are other books out there...?
 
Better this than hundreds of pages describing the dresses of every female character in the series.....

;) I hear ya... I'll rather hear about Martin's foods than Jordan's dresses and bosoms.
 
And Im sorry but what are these forums for if not complaining hypothisisng and argueing?
This is exactly the purpose for which these forums were designed.

Snaga, In no way did I mean to shut you down. You have as much right as I do to express your opinions. An American radio host, Dennis Prager, says something to the effect of "I desire clarity over agreement or conversion." It's better that we be able to express ourselves and understand each other than to demand supremacy and submission. It's great that I, Brian and others host this site so we can discuss our passions about literature.

Raul, your story on patience in the face of oppression gave me goose bumps. I salute you. By the way, is Raul a common name in Estonia?

Also, I've caught the descriptions of food in my re-reads. I think I'd like to live in Dorne... mmmm, fiery peppers. By the way, if you want descriptions of food in your art, then you should watch Ang Lee's Taiwanese family story Eat, Drink, Man, Woman. I thought it was much better than Like Water For Chocolate... plus I just have a deep affinity for Chinese food.

pan naranus, I've not read Mr. Salvatore. So it's dangerous for me to qualify him. I only think that a writer working from his own ideas is preferrable to a writer working over someone elses ideas. Also, if you've read more than 500 fantasy authors, then I salute you!
 
Raul, your story on patience in the face of oppression gave me goose bumps. I salute you. By the way, is Raul a common name in Estonia?
Yes, It's quite common. But we started to use it only sixty seventy years ago.
 

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