The Hound: A theory

Slyde said:
From what I remember, I thought that Gregor's head (or skull) was being sent to Dorne.

Being headless, it seems he would not be a likely candidate to become 'undead'.

Am I wrong ?
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Only GRRM knows.

There's a lot in the later books about the heads of various dwarves being brought to King's Landing so that their owners can claim the reward for dispatching Tyrion. I'm pretty sure that this is GRRM hinting that Gregor may still have his head on his shoulders.
 
ArstenWhitebeard said:
he never really does anything too terrible (relatively speaking when you take the time and world he lives in into consideration)

I am having a hard time putting it into words (clearly) but I always got the impression that Sandor was one of the most honest characters there are in the series, which is only downplayed because of how bitter he is.

I can't remember exatly how it happens in the book, but I belive it is very similar to the show, but when Eddard sees that he killed Mycah he asks "you cut him down?" and Sandor replies "He Ran". If mycah would have surrendered, Sandor would have brought him back, and Cersei would have had him executed anyway. but Mycah Ran, so Sandor ran him down. Either way, Mycah would be dead.
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I've got two points to make her so bear with me. First, I'm sure Sandor would have cut him down whether he ran or not. There was nothing moral in his mind or in that scene at all. GRRM wrote it that way on purpose to show us what a uncaring, cold-blooded killer he is.

However, you have to keep in mind that this scene happens in an early chapter of the first book of the series. GRRM hadn't fully fleshed out his characters yet and several actually changed characteristics later on in the series when he'd written more and had a firmer understanding of who they were or he who wanted them to be.

An obvious example is Tyrion. Tyrion does a flip and lands perfectly when Jon first meets him in an early chapter. In later chapters, Tyrion becomes a bit gimpy (even before GRRM started maiming him I mean) and isn't nimble enough to do a flip and would never consider doing such a thing. GRRM changed his characteristics to better fit the mold and direction he wanted to Tyrion to have. If I remember right, there's another character whose eye colors changes. Little things like that. When you're working with books this big, it's tough to go back and edit those details after you've changed them in later chapters.

Anyway, back to the point about Sandor. Early in AGOT, GRRM wanted him to be a certain way but later on he changed his direction with the character. He needed something different from Sandor so that he could be a mentor and "father figure" to Sansa and Arya. So the Hound in early AGOT would cut down Mycah whether or not he was running away. But I believe the Hound in later chapters and books wouldn't have done the same thing because that wouldn't fit the character he ended up becoming.
 
Even though GRRM has, I believe, owned up to that continuity error, I would prefer to see it as evidence that Jon** was very, very drunk. (I'm almost surprised that GRRM didn't use this excuse; but then it might undermine some people's belief that the various PoV characters have perfect perception, which wouldn't do at all.... ;))





** - The incident occurs in a Jon chapter.
 
One other continuity error occurs in AFFC. Sansa thinks back to the night that KL was attacked by Stannis. The Hound came drunk to her room. She remembered the song she sang for him and the kiss he took.

The problem is that Sandor never kissed her in ACOK.

The error is in AFFC, but I think GRRM either misremembered or had wanted the kiss to happen yet forgot to change it before publication.
 
Even though GRRM has, I believe, owned up to that continuity error, I would
prefer to see it as evidence that Jon** was very, very drunk. (I'm almost
surprised that GRRM didn't use this excuse; but then it might undermine some
people's belief that the various PoV characters have perfect perception, which
wouldn't do at all.... ;))
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Yes! Thank you Ursa, that's what I want to hear!

...damn you Boaz.
 
Ursa major said:
Even though GRRM has, I believe, owned up to that continuity error, I would prefer to see it as evidence that Jon** was very, very drunk. (I'm almost surprised that GRRM didn't use this excuse; but then it might undermine some people's belief that the various PoV characters have perfect perception, which wouldn't do at all.... ;))





** - The incident occurs in a Jon chapter.
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No that would never do! :D ;)
 
Wow, I didn't realize that they never kissed... just re-read the chapter and was surprised that they hadn't.

When I watched the show I was disappointed that they didn't. I suppose that maybe we can blame the art and skill of GRRM for fooling a lot of us and himself as well?
 
Yes, Tywin. I hear stories of famous singers, like Paul McCartney, having to relearn the lyrics before going on tour. They've written, recorded, and performed the songs and then moved on to create more and more. Guys like him, Neil Diamond, Paul Simon, and Prince have probably written ten songs for each one that is actually recorded. I wonder how many times George Martin wrote that Sansa chapter... and now with about twenty-five concurrent POVs, how can he remember everything? It'd be so much easier if he had a factory like George Lucas. "Meesah forgetting evryting!!!"
 
Boaz said:
One other continuity error occurs in AFFC. Sansa thinks back to the night that KL was attacked by Stannis. The Hound came drunk to her room. She remembered the song she sang for him and the kiss he took.

The problem is that Sandor never kissed her in ACOK.

The error is in AFFC, but I think GRRM either misremembered or had wanted the kiss to happen yet forgot to change it before publication.
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I haven't looked up the AFfC reference, so the following may not fit the "facts" at all, but could it be that, deep down, Sansa wants to believe that Sandor kissed her in King's Landing?
 
I haven't looked up the AFfC reference, so the following may not fit the
"facts" at all, but could it be that, deep down, Sansa wants to believe that
Sandor kissed her in King's Landing?
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Unfortunately, I don't buy it :(
 
Tyrion does a cartwheel on the Shy Maiden after getting dumped in the water in ADWD.

The Hound will return but maybe as a golden retriever.
 
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