Implications on Jon being LC

I wonder if he really is the 998th Lord commander, i remember reading in AFFC that Sam said that was debatable, that he had found information that might prove the count wrong.

For some reason the count of LC reminds me a bit of the count of popes, the're have been many hundreds by know as well.
 
I was thinking about the number. And i came up with the following:

1) GRRM just wants us to think something will happen to Jon, but in reality would never go down that cliché-road of having exactly a 1000th LC of the NW.

Seeing as the following book will in great part be about the wall, it could mean that:

2) Jon dies at the end.
3) Jon 'dies' like Bran and Rickon but not really, and the NW just think him dead and appoint a new LC.
4) Jon becomes a wight.
5) Jon gets desposed, (by various possible reeasons), and a new LC is chosen.
6) The NW is sundered in two by rivalry, ... ; and rivalling LC are chosen.
 
Kiwi, Jon does not become a wight. He joins the mob-under-the-wall with Coldhands.
 
No, that's an exclamation mark.

I'm j/k. Jon does not become a wight. He does not die.

Although I must say that Catelyn's words to Jon in the first book haunt me. When he's departing from Bran's room, our favotire lady says "Jon," (she never called him by his name) "It should have been you." And then she cried.

Of course she was just angry and speaking nonsense, but... It may be a foreshadowing.
 
Excuse my rambling thoughts here as I haven't read AFfC yet but I think Jon will bring down the wall with the Horn of Winter. Whether that then frees him up to become a head of the dragon, Lord of Winterfall or is his last act as he dies I am unsure of, but the fact he is desperate not to become a turncloak hints that will will be the ultimate turncloak, but it could be that it works out for the good of all in the end. (unless of course something has happened to said horn in AFfC)

If the wights are destroyed there is no need for the wall, I think in the end the long Winter will be gone and normal seasons will be restored. Is it the Wights that bring the cold or the cold that brings the Wights?

I'm probably totally wrong as as I haven't read all the available books yet I'm probably well off track. I think Jon has a fate outside Westeros, he is on the wall for a purpose, maybe to unite the Wildlings and bring down the boundaries between the two peoples, or maybe just to die painfully :). I certainly think he will work with Dani and Mel to rid the world of the Wights if given the opportunity and the Wildlings are starting to respect and fear him

Apologies if all this has been said before but I'm new here :)
 
I'm eagerly awaiting its delivery :D

*runs off to check post tray*
 
There's as good as no Jon in AFFC though.
Also some people think Jon may go evil, because GRRM said something like Jon was not entirely what people seem to think he is. That, or i made it up in my mind. Others say it just means he's a Targ.
 
I try not to listen to what writers say about their work because if it was me I'd take great pleasure in leading people up the wrong path with the odd obscure comment or two :) I mean you spen years writing a series and everyone tries to guess the direction you take it in, it has to be frustrating if they get it right.. maybe that's what takes them so long, they watch forums all day to see what plots people come up with and then if anyone guesses it right theychange the story ;)
 
And here is was thinking,you where gonna say they'd pick out the most interesting ones out of lack of inspiration.
 
Koopa said:
I was thinking about the number. And i came up with the following:

1) GRRM just wants us to think something will happen to Jon, but in reality would never go down that cliché-road of having exactly a 1000th LC of the NW.

Seeing as the following book will in great part be about the wall, it could mean that:

2) Jon dies at the end.
3) Jon 'dies' like Bran and Rickon but not really, and the NW just think him dead and appoint a new LC.
4) Jon becomes a wight.
5) Jon gets desposed, (by various possible reeasons), and a new LC is chosen.
6) The NW is sundered in two by rivalry, ... ; and rivalling LC are chosen.
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You crazy, omniscient kiwi-koopa...

Did you call up the author and tell him what to write in ADWD?
 
Koopa said:
I wonder if he really is the 998th Lord commander, i remember reading in AFFC that Sam said that was debatable, that he had found information that might prove the count wrong.

For some reason the count of LC reminds me a bit of the count of popes, the're have been many hundreds by know as well.
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The count should be 999th I bet, because the Night's King was removed from all the records. That would mean that there needs to be a new LC appointed after Jon's death to make the nice round 1000 and the end of the wall and the Night's Watch.

Just speculating here.
 
I should've reread those last adwd with jon chapters before bumping this thread. I'm trying to post something reasonable about what is happenis at the Wall the moment Jon gets stabbed, like the white walkers attacking the NW, but my memory is just a tad too fuzzy. (Gonna try and find some time within the next few weeks for that).

I believed the NW didn't record properly at the beginning, and that there have in fact been more than 1000th LC. Your thoughts on the LC count has a nicer touch too it though Tywin.

I now feel like a fool for not understanding the Cougar thing at the time... Joke really was on me :).
As for Popes, who knew we'd have a new one by now.
 
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