JANNY WURTS: Initiate's Trial: Speculation SPOILER WARNING!!!

But the fortress proper was never breached, only the lower town. Plus, when your whole underground shipyard is exploded from within, it kind of makes it hard to defend it.

There was a winch system up to the upper citadel, and all of the Paravian defences were secure. Only starvation could beat the s'Brydions.
 
But Clanny, don't you see? The S'Brydion would never relinquish their access to the Sea if there was to be any say at all, and certainly would have taken precautions to insure that an enemy couldn't just float a hull full of incendiary material right up to their gate and compromise their access/defenses. Look at the Mathorn gate; defense after defense against conventional tactics, it was. Not much to be done about the lower town half of it where Lysaer is concerned, but proof against all non-magical threats. The S'Brydion would not have allowed lower town to be so easily attacked. What was it, one iron-barred door in between the shipwright's cove and lower town? Just not consistent!

OK, had my rant. Feel better now!
 
Not sure about the long winding tunnel part, although a "bend" is described. There's a postern gate (closer to the town) and another gate at the shipyard end of the tunnel. Neither gate was described as anything that an 8-man ram couldn't take down....
 
Perhaps secrecy was decided to be a better defence than brute strength in the case of the shipyards?
It was concealed, at least before the explosion left it wide open to the invasion.
And I do seem to remember the external defences were fairly substantial also.
Hmmm. Will be a while before I get all the way back to Stormed Fortress in my re-read of the entire series. Am still all the way back in The Ships of Merior.
 
OK, we're not going to figure this one out, I think. It was more of a rhetorical question for which only Janny has the "true" answer...

What about Feylind, though? She was Arithon's bootlegger, replacing Captain Dhirken, and Fiark's one sure method of conveying information (he does seem to have many such avenues available to him....). True, Arithon's still got the crew on Khetienn, but they're not a registered merchant brig, and could not reasonably become such without coming under suspicion.

On top of that, there's the vow that Arithon made to Jinesse to keep Feylind and Fiark safe. Jinesse, who's not only lost a daughter, but also a second husband (Cattrick); what kind of turmoil is that going to stir up? Or do we think she'll content herself with her grandchildren, Fiark and his wife?

I guess, in a 500-year story, where only a few of the characters have the means to live that long, we're doomed to lose more than a few, but I thought Feylind would stick around a little longer. I also thought that, when she did check out, that the event would receive more than a couple pages, especially preceded by Dakar's glimpse of the future depicting it in Traitor's Knot (I think it was Traitor's Knot....). As I noted before, even Fionn Areth's demise got more attention.....thoughts?
 
Tharrick, your bearliness! Former captain to the S'Brydion. And I am once again undone by phonetics! So, quite correct, Jinesse is still widowed by once.

Regarding Feylind, she was quite prepared to lose the ship in the book, and there was an odd hint here or there. I referring to the fact that there was no real build-up to it; it just kind of happened, and then was over.

EDIT: By the way, Janny responded to the S'Brydion question on her site. Well worth the read, and one can't ask for better than the source herself!
 
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Hoping you have found it now, but just in case....

It's the 32nd (and last, scroll all the way down!) bullet topic under "Arc 3: Alliance of Light: Stormed Fortress:.
 
She really does need the chance to include a picture in a subsequent edition, because the description is very, very wordy, and there really is no way to shorten it.
 
Next thing you know, Clanny, you'll be needing the 3 dimensional tour...:D:p
 
OK, almost finished with my re-read of Grand Conspiracy, and I've found a minor continuity conflict (or, possibly, a change of heart by our author!). It concerns Davien, and the events leading to his becoming "Discorporeal".

In Grand Conspiracy, page 426 (Hardback Harper Prism edition), the Talespinner writes of Davien:

His nature had never been quiet or retiring, nor his work, which had formented the rebellion that overthrew the old order and dethroned the five chosen high kings. For that act of violence, made against the will of the other six Fellowship Sorcerers, he had received his due hour of censure. In recognition of the damages caused by his hand, he had been rendered discoporate through a ceremonial destruction of the flesh. Since then, his colleagues had granted their strict respect to his right to private withdrawal.

If you turn now to Stormed Fortress, Ms. Wurts describes the event in a flashback in Chapter 16, Scarpdale, on Page 548-9 (remember, my hardback is the UK Book Club edition, and so is compressed; the page could vary wildly!):

Say again that this is not a staged trial, tailored to fit the renegade criminal roped in for summary judgement! I find the role that you've scripted too pat. Your string-puppet accused will not dance for the question!' Quick as the turn of a leaf in a storm, the Sorcerer spun on his heel. He strode towards the doorway with a fierce glance back, talking fast to jam Luhaine silent. 'You don't need my presence to bandy conjecture. Carry on, by all means. Enjoy your salacious dissection of character without the bother of my protestations.
Sethvir's fraught cry for restraint went unheard. His tenure as Warden was too recent, yet, for his colleagues to grasp the full significance. Or perhaps Davien sensed the overshadowing gravity. In his wild rage, he might have left the warning suicidally disregarded. The heated moment had fanned Fellowship tempers too high for clear sight: that Althain Tower's Paravian defences had stirred active by their raw dissension.
The warding seal at the doorway had never been meant for restraint. Sethvir's token binding was symbolic, a sincere gesture to confront wounded trust and reforge a confidence torn by the pressures of Desh-thiere's invasion.
Davien approached the drawn line and stepped out. Brilliant as autumn, he vanished into the stairwell, without second thought crossing the focused will of the appointed Warden of Althain Tower.
Asandir was alone, as he leaped in response to the unforeseen crisis. Chair slammed over backwards, the field Sorcerer vaulted the ebony table and launched off in desperate pursuit.
He might have overtaken Davien in time. Intervention, at speed, perhaps could have checked wounded pride and stopped his colleague's incensed departure.
But Kharadmon slammed the door in Asandir's path. 'Let the betrayer go his own way!'
[Luhaine contributes an irrelevant tirade, then....]
'Shehane Althain's aroused!' Sethvir's shout at last broke the clamour.
But the fortunate moment was already lost. Davien encountered the raised might of the tower's gaurdian centaur, and the vigorous reflex for self-preservation entrapped him, past any recourse save one: the ceremonial dissolution his colleagues enacted to spare him, that stripped the spirit out of living flesh...

The first quote implies that he was stripped of his flesh as a punishment, the second, as an only recourse. Whether Sethvir, Asandir and the rest intended to punish him with discorporeal existence never surfaces. Am I missing something?
 
The crux of the matter is the initial portion of the line from Grand Conspiracy:
In recognition of the damages caused by his hand

The gathering of the fellowship at Althain, as described by Janny in Stormed Fortress, was along the lines of an inquest into the damages caused by Davien (i.e. the uprising).
Althain Tower's Paravian defences had stirred active by their raw dissension.
, and the dissension was due to the acts of Davien.
This dissension (and Althain's rousing) was then followed by:
Davien approached the drawn line and stepped out. Brilliant as autumn, he vanished into the stairwell, without second thought crossing the focused will of the appointed Warden of Althain Tower.
This act was recognised by Shehane Althain as one that required action against.
To save Davien from Shehane Althain, the fellowship had only one recouse:
the ceremonial dissolution his colleagues enacted to spare him, that stripped the spirit out of living flesh...

But the original line from Grand Conspiracy still rings true,
In recognition of the damages caused by his hand, he had been rendered discoporate through a ceremonial destruction of the flesh.
we readers now know enough to look at it from another point of view.
But it does raise the question would the Fellowship have 'punished' Davien in any way for the uprising, if he hadn't stormed out of the meeting?
 
I guess I read "recognition" as the reason why he was rendered discorporate. The way it's described in Stormed Fortress, it's more like they had no other choice if they were to save/free him from Shehane Althain's wards (implication here is that a spirit sorcerer may pass the wards where a corporeal one cannot?).
 
Dekket, I think you're grasping at straws...the two seem quite contradictory to me. Davien is not "receiving his due hour of censure", he is in fact refusing it. And the first quote clearly implies that Davien was rendered discorporate as punishment for his acts. The "discorporation" is clearly linked with the "act of violence, made against the will of the other six fellowship sorcerers" - ie the rebellion he fomented. "In recognition of damages" can't reasonably apply to the rousing of the centaur's wards. Seems to me Grimey is right, this is either a minor error or a change of heart on the author's part. Either of which is fine, she can hardly be expected to maintain perfection (or complete consistency of intent with every detail) in a work of such scale, and covering such a lengthy period of time in her own life.
 
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