The scarce, rare, valuable and disgustingly expensive book thread

In the mid eighties when I was still single and working full-time I got serious about filling the gaps in my sixties comic collection. For someone in my situation they were still affordable if a little pricey, not astronomically out of reach like today. No way could I do that kind of thing now. As for books, I have my core collection I worked hard on from around 1967-1982. If I can't get it cheap today, I walk away from it. What I have is more important than what I do not. But there are still great bargains to be had if you like to snoop around.
 
Well I have several items that would sell into the 1,000s on the open market but as I collect books to enjoy them rather than make a profit as a business; I won't be selling.

I've recounted this story before but as we're talking about rare items...when I was in Yokohama, Japan in '07 for WorldCon the Dealer's room had some lovely 1st Edn. HBs of Lovecraft's work. Included for sale was a 1st edn, HB going for $2,000 US. Now I'm keen on books and Lovecraft but there really isn't any book I would be prepared to pay that much for. I could have afforded it and it would have been a good investment but I'm not a professional collector or die-hard Horror fan for that matter; so I declined.

AH...but wait friends; here's the kicker and why it would have only increased in price over time and was a temptation at that time. This 1st edn. (I can't recall which book it was) was owned by The Gent himself complete with authenticated signature incl. associated documentation. Following Lovecraft's death, Robert Bloch (author of "psycho" etc. ) acquired the book and kept it in his private library. Bloch's signature clearly also appears on the opposite page. That's like buying a piece of literary history when you think about it.....:cool:

Needless to say, I have no idea if someone bought it but I bet it would fetch an even higher price tag now.
 
I'm In!

I grabbed few off the shelf because I'm cleaning my little home office!:eek:

Prolly my favorite is The Starmaker, 1937 First printing/3rd edition, they made less of them than the first 2 editions with a "novel" heavy paper style binding with artwork by Bip Perez ( whoever that is :p) I bought it for the insanely low price of $22.00 US at a little bookstore in the french quarter New Orleans. Mine is in poor condition but maybe I'll trade up someday.

The others are some of my older pbacks with cool covers that were handy. I think tThe Dying Earth piece is pretty rare. I spent anywhere from $4 -$30(per) US on these maybe 15 years agowhen I was active.

I need a big cash score so I can go to Boskone and shop for books!:D
I love the old cover art on paperbacks, and would collect pulp but it is to delicate.
 

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I'm In!

I grabbed few off the shelf because I'm cleaning my little home office!:eek:

Prolly my favorite is The Starmaker, 1937 First printing/3rd edition, they made less of them than the first 2 editions with a "novel" heavy paper style binding with artwork by Bip Perez ( whoever that is :p) I bought it for the insanely low price of $22.00 US at a little bookstore in the french quarter New Orleans. Mine is in poor condition but maybe I'll trade up someday.

The others are some of my older pbacks with cool covers that were handy. I think tThe Dying Earth piece is pretty rare. I spent anywhere from $4 -$30(per) US on these maybe 15 years agowhen I was active.

I need a big cash score so I can go to Boskone and shop for books!:D
I love the old cover art on paperbacks, and would collect pulp but it is to delicate.

Great stuff! Really like THE DYING EARTH. Good score!
 
The only book I own that might conceivably have some value someday is a first edition hardback copy of a Tim Powers illustrated short story (it's 83 pages, but very large print and lavishly illustrated by J. K. Potter), A Soul in a Bottle, published by Subterranean Press and signed (in my presence) by the author, with two typos corrected by the author in the same pen he signed the book with. It might or might not be a limited edition; the evidence of the ISBN numbers for the limited and trade hardcover editions is inconclusive, as the ISBN number printed on the dust jacket does not match either number exactly.

It's a neat little ghost story that takes place in Hollywood.
 
Those are the Scribner's editions, Ian? The ones with rusty-reddish boards? I think you showed me a pic once. I found some guy on e-bay who was trying to sell a copy of the Heretics edition with a lean in the spine for like, $175 or something. I thought about it but refrained.

Putnam, not Scribner. But yes, those are the ones. There was a similar edition of Eye, but I've yet to find a copy.
 
It's worth pointing out that even some recent books can be worth a bob or two. Someone's already mentioned Pullman. But a first edition of Stephen Baxter's debut novel, Raft, is worth upwards of £300. The same is probably true of a first edition of Alastair Reynolds' Revelation Space. That would be for first UK editions, of course. The first UK editions of Kim Stanley Robinson's Red Mars, Green Mars and Blue Mars used to be worth £1200 to £1500, but the price plummetted after copies starting appearing on eBay...

And eBay itself has led to some odd books being priced out of all proportion to their worth... The final book of EE Doc Smith's Family d'Alembert series, Revolt of the Galaxy (1985), I've seen go for £25 on eBay. Happily, I picked up my copy for 1p (one day, I'll even read it). Ian Watson's Warhammer 40K novel Space Marine is another one that regularly goes for £20 or more. However, Black Library will be making it available soon in their new POD imprint.
 
One must be careful collecting old books. From the early 1800's until about 1960 (I forget the exact cut-off), most publishers used paper that had not had its acid removed. As a result, those books are decaying at an incredible rate, and the libararies of the 19th and 20th centuries are in worse shape than the libraries of the 17th and 18th centuries.

If you spend a big chunk of cash for an old first edition, be prepared to spend an even bigger chunk to have it de-acidified, which is an incredibly expensive process. I think even the first editions of Tolkien's books that Pyan and I dream of fall into this category, unless Unwin and Allen were spending more money on paper than their competitors.
 
This isn't entirely true, though. I have a fair number of books from that period, which are in remarkably good shape, as well as a few which are so fragile I don't dare breathe on them too hard (such as my copy of Hearst's edition of Wagner the Wehr-wolf).

Oddly, a lot of the old book club editions were printed on paper which, while it browns, does so veerrrrrry slowly. I have book club editions from the 1940s through the 1970s which are in much better shape than the "real" editions (so to speak). It has always struck me as very peculiar, that....
 
Even though I allowed space behind the book shelves for air to circulate, the books facing an outside wall are browning on the inside cover and discoloring splotches are appearing on the edge of the paper, side and top, (I suspect my house isn't insulated), while books on shelves facing an inside wall don't appear to be aging at all, even new paperbacks purchased in the sixties. Except, for some reason, some front covers stick to the back covers of the books next to them and parts of a cover will rip off when separated. My copy of TO YOUR SCATTERED BODIES GO has a bunch of measle-like white spots all over it from sticking/ripping. I may have my shelves too tightly packed.
 
Even though I allowed space behind the book shelves for air to circulate, the books facing an outside wall are browning on the inside cover and discoloring splotches are appearing on the edge of the paper, side and top, (I suspect my house isn't insulated), while books on shelves facing an inside wall don't appear to be aging at all, even new paperbacks purchased in the sixties. Except, for some reason, some front covers stick to the back covers of the books next to them and parts of a cover will rip off when separated. My copy of TO YOUR SCATTERED BODIES GO has a bunch of measle-like white spots all over it from sticking/ripping. I may have my shelves too tightly packed.

That, and a slight problem with humidity -- perhaps not enough for you to notice it, but enough for the moisture to react with some of the chemicals use in production with certain books. A drier environment tends to eliminate that problem... unless you have your shelves really packed, enough to make it difficult to remove a book....

Clansman: I've found that, with what you were saying, the worst period was from around 1895 to the mid-1930s (or, with some companies, the mid-1940s). For example: a first edition of the American release of H. R. Wakefield's They Return at Evening which is still in very good shape is quite hard to find; the paper is so fragile that it flakes, no matter what you do; while my copy of Edward Lucas White's Lukundoo and Other Stories from the previous year is in almost pristine shape (save for missing a dustjacket); ditto for my copy of The Song of the Sirens, while my copy of Holmes' Elsie Venner is also quite fragile. But books from 1890 are often in much, much better shape, showing scarcely any browning at all; the paper is firm (if not always limber -- though sometimes it is); and the sewing on the bindings is still strong, whereas with books from that period it is often so thin and fragile that it can snap at a moment's notice.

Paperbacks, on the other hand, are quite another matter, as the paper used in them was of close to (or exactly) the same grade used in the pulp magazines; hence is falling apart by this point (as with my copy of a 1940s edition of Creep, Shadow! by A. Merritt). At the same time, as I noted earlier, certain book clubs at any rate, were using a higher-grade paper as early as the 1940s at least, and some of those I have are still in remarkably good condition....
 
Not sure how scarce or how valuable they are but I suppose my most cherished books are, a signed first copy of David Gemmell's Lord of the Silver Bow,James Barclay's Light Stealer Signed by the author and Stan Nicholls, My first editions of Mickey Zucker Richert's Renshai books and first editions of Stephen King's Song of Susannah and The Dark Tower. I wouldn't say they are my favourites but would b the most difficult to replace.
 
I have a couple of Alan Dean Foster hardback first editions and Arthur C. Clarke's 3001 First Edition. I don't think that they are especially rare, but i like having them.

As for Expensive books, i have the Limited edition Star Wars: Dressing a Galaxy and Sculpting a Galaxy along with one of the Limited edition Art of Ralph McQuarrie books.
 
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My most valuable that I'm aware of is Harry Crews' This Thing Don't Lead to Heaven which is about a $100 book. Didn't get it for too much less than that I'm afraid either.
 
I picked up a 1st edition Wizard of Earthsea for $7 at a bookstore next to the beach in Santa Cruz. I didn't figure out it was a first until 10 years later when I bought the L.W. Currey reference book. It is one of the first 75 copies printed in a library binding with all of the correct points. It's in Very Good condition with a good only dust jacket(faded front cover). I was able to get Ursula to sign it for me. I've been offered $2500.00 but I will keep it.

I picked up an advance reading copy of The Eye of the World. Mint only opened to have the price of $5 lightly penciled into the inside front cover. $500+

I bought a signed Space on My Hands by Fredric Brown for $60. It was signed to Jack Chalker. I have no idea on the value.

I bought several advance reading copies for less than $20. Sword of Shannara, Enders Game, Old Man's War, Falling Free, Pride of Chanur, Boat of a Million Years, Red Mars, Uplift War, Name of the Wind. People are more alert now and these are much harder to acquire cheaply.

I've had a number get away also, Didn't buy either Neuromancer or Snow Crash when I could have got them for $75 each.
Missed on a signed 1st edition HC set of Dragonsong, Dragonsinger, Dragondrums for $50 each.
And my all time miss was thinking $200 for an asbestos covered special edition of Fahrenheit 451 was a gimmick. I think those go for about 10K now. aauugghh!
 
I picked up a 1st edition Wizard of Earthsea for $7 at a bookstore next to the beach in Santa Cruz. I didn't figure out it was a first until 10 years later when I bought the L.W. Currey reference book. It is one of the first 75 copies printed in a library binding with all of the correct points. It's in Very Good condition with a good only dust jacket(faded front cover). I was able to get Ursula to sign it for me. I've been offered $2500.00 but I will keep it.
Crieky if I had a book on my shelf that was worth that much i'd have to sell it! You woupdnt to read it again plus your insurance will go up. Sell it and buy a cheaper reading copy!
 
I'm afraid I don't have any scarce or disgustingly expensive books on my shelves, apart from 10 leather covered classics by Dickenson, Austen and the Bronte sisters.

They were certainly not cheap and I haven't seen any more in the book shops for ages.
 

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