The scarce, rare, valuable and disgustingly expensive book thread

I used to have a very early copy of Charteris's "Meet The Tiger", the first Saint story and in an edition pre-dating the title change to "The Saint Meets The Tiger". I bought it when I was building my collection and it cost me 50p in old sterling, but it was one of the books I left it behind in one of my many college flat-moves. I tried to get a copy recently, but I don't have the $200 :eek:
 
At a car boot sale, I picked up a first edition copy of 'Healing by Hand' by Parnell Bradbury. Not in tip-top condition, but it was actually signed by the author and it had a compliment slip inside it, with some words from the author. I paid 50pence for it, the seller just glanced at it in my hand and said "yeah, give us 50p". I didn't haggle. I was offered £200 for it recently by a chiropractor...:eek:
 
I had a first edition first printing of Terry Pratchett's The Colour of Magic in my hands once. When I was researching it I found out that there were only 504 copies printed and most went to libraries. The copy I had was ex-library.

I offered it to a well-known book auctioneers and was told it wasn't valuable enough for them and they weren't interested and in fact it took me quite a long time to find anyone who was. I was actually beginning to doubt my own feeling that it was worth something in it's state (pretty ropey) but I did eventually sell it to a Pratchett fan.

I can only speculate what a mint condition copy would be worth since what I sold the ex-lib copy for proved the auctioneers wrong.

The morals being don't always believe what the "experts" tell you, and check library sales, you never know what you'll find.

I've never been a Pratchett fan myself, I have some Roger Zelazny first editions that I'd never sell, though I don't know how rare they are.
 
I picked up a nice Gone with the Wind 1934 for my mom in-law when she misplaced her well used copy. I believe it cost around 50cents from a library sale :0)

Many of you oldies around here on the Chrons remember when i had my little bookstore. I got traded a fine first edition James and the giant Peach which I sold. I had early ER Burroughs, also sold. A whole slew of paperback romance from the 50s, 60s, and 70s, mint condition...around 300 books...sold one of the for $150 and another for $300, the rest for normal amounts. I kind of regret selling the James sometimes...but I had to pay rent somehow. *sigh*
 
Another thread reminded me that I am missing nos. 9 to 11 of Tolkien's The History of Middle Earth. I have nos. 1-8 and 12 in the original UK editions, so I went looking today for 9 to 11 in the British editions. I think I need to call my insurance agent, because the amount of money on my bookshelf is obscene. I don't want to sell the books, but it is tempting when I see that I could get $1,500.00 US for some of them. I collected the series from its beginning in the mid-1980s. I wish I'd been able to find 9 through 11 when they had been released. Alas, I missed them. It will cost me dearly to complete the collection, should I choose to do so.
 
I picked up a first edition copy of Ian Fleming's Goldfinger for 50c. It has no dust jacket and the pages are tanned, but overall in good condition.
 
I bought a signed 1st edition of "...and some were human" by Lester Del Rey. It was evidently signed to a family member as I found the original typed short story manuscript titled "Over the Top" folded up and placed inside the back cover. I researched the story and it appeared in the Nov. 1949 Astounding. It is faded, stained and the last page is in two pieces due to brittleness. It has pencil corrections for spelling and punctuation.
Anyone have an idea what it would go for?
 
So, when you get these first editions, signed or expensive books, do you get them because you like the author? Or is it purely because of what they are?
 
I get them first because I like the author or particular book. I will support new authors that I really like by buying two copies. One to read and one to put on the shelf.

I admit that sometimes I buy books I don't particularly care for but it is with the intention of trading for what I do like. For instance the day that the Da Vinci code first came out Dan Brown stopped by my store in Boston(I managed a large chain store) to sign books. I bought three copies and later traded one for a Who Goes There? 1st edition, and the second copy for a signed Lest Darkness Fall 1st edition. The last copy I still have and if I run across someone who is a Brown fan I will see what they have to trade.

I like owning things that evoke history. When I hold and read a copy of Astounding from 1930 and see, and smell, and feel the very different world view that people had at that time it helps rekindle that "sense of wonder" that I had as a kid.

I hold myself to a limit on how much I spend otherwise I would be drowning in even more books. I have only spent over $100 a couple of times in my buying career. I would guess there is the element of "the find" that people get in finding the undiscovered gem hidden in the back of a dusty antique shop.

I tend to focus on a few authors and try to collect everything they have written. But if I run across a Hugo winner or a classic story I will pick them up.
 
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So, when you get these first editions, signed or expensive books, do you get them because you like the author? Or is it purely because of what they are?

Well, as I said in my first post in thread:

in no single occasion here did I seek out a book because it was rare or valuable; it just happened to be a book I wanted very badly to get, and that was the only way I could get it

It isn't only liking the author, but, as noted elsewhere, it can be an obsession with the subject matter, or because it is a book put out by a particular publisher for whom I have high regard (this was the case when I was collecting Arkham House books -- sadly, I had to let nearly all of those go some years ago, and am unlikely to ever be in a position again to afford such a habit:(), or because it is simply a stunningly beautiful book (art books, things from certain small publishers, such as Centipede Press, etc.), or many other factors.

One of those, as K. Riehl noted, is:

I like owning things that evoke history. When I hold and read a copy of Astounding from 1930 and see, and smell, and feel the very different world view that people had at that time it helps rekindle that "sense of wonder" that I had as a kid.

I have several books of that nature which I have picked up over a lifetime, including a 1793 edition of Johnson's Idler (in 2 volumes); an 1841 edition of John Lloyd Stephens' Incidents of Travel in Egypt, Arabia Petraea, and the Holy Land (which I picked up for a dollar -- for both volumes!); that edition of Garth's Dispensary I mentioned earlier; my volumes of Bulwer-Lytton's Works; that 4-in-3 volume set of The Newgate Calendar, and so on. With me, there's not only the tactile sensations surrounding such a treasure (the feel and smell of the paper and binding -- quite different from a book of today; the typography; and so on) but also the imaginative stimulus of the history such an item has seen... the various ages it has existed through; the differences in how people of various generations have viewed it and what it meant to those times; the idea of being part of a continuing chain carrying this little bit of history onward from the past into the future, and so on. And, with me, there is also the fact that, in researching Lovecraft and his work, it is sometimes very important to look at a particular edition of a work for things which inspired or influenced him -- hence my getting a copy of a single-volume edition of Bulwer's A Strange Story, Zanoni, and "The Haunted House" (a.k.a. "The Haunted and the Haunters; or, the House and the Brain"), etc..

So, as I said before, it can be any number of factors beyond the one of the writer him- or herself, but it is never because it is expensive, a first edition, or collectible, unless there is something else that makes that important for my needs....
 
I got a question for some of you here. Why is a signed book worth more on the open market than one that isn't signed when there is no proof to certify the signature?

Also what is worth more, a signed first edition or an unsigned ARC of that same book? I've heard some consider this to be a true first edition.
 
I got a question for some of you here. Why is a signed book worth more on the open market than one that isn't signed when there is no proof to certify the signature?

Also what is worth more, a signed first edition or an unsigned ARC of that same book? I've heard some consider this to be a true first edition.

Hmmm I've never come across an ARC, whats the difference between one and a regular book? As for signed books, I only have one signed SF book, Dangerous Visions with Ellison's scrawl on the fly page, along with a California book shop sticker on the cover.
 
Why is a signed book worth more on the open market than one that isn't signed when there is no proof to certify the signature?

You're right about not having proof of a signatures authenticity. A few years back, I went to a multi-author event at the (much missed) Heffer's Grafton bookshop. At the end of the evening there was still several piles of unsigned books, so the authors started signing their books, for Heffers to sell. As the authors started drifting home, two of the authors (I think it was Colin Greenland and Michael Rohan Scott, but honestly can't remember) spotted a stack of still unsigned books by a third author, so started forging his signature in them.
Question is, which are worth more, the ones with the legitimate signatures, or the rarer ones with the authors signature forged by other authors?
 
Hmmm I've never come across an ARC, whats the difference between one and a regular book? As for signed books, I only have one signed SF book, Dangerous Visions with Ellison's scrawl on the fly page, along with a California book shop sticker on the cover.

The acronym ARC stands for Advance Review Copy. It is typically in a trade paperback format, and has no cover artwork on it (the ones I have received as a reviewer are usually yellow). Often the final proof has not been done, so there can be plenty of typos. To give an example, the ARC for Jordan's The Eye of the World is worth less than the first printing of the first edition, but that is due in part to the first printing of that particular book having a very small press run (1500, I think). If the press run of the authorized edition is a lot higher (like Jordan's later books), sometimes the ARC is worth more, because there are never many ARCs. ARCs are a gem for collectors, for precisely this reason. And if the reviewer who had the ARC is a famous reviewer (like another author) and made notes in the copy, that can add significant value (like a GRRM reviewing Patrick Rothfuss' next book).

Taken another way, an ARC for A Dance With Dragons (if they even do one, which is unlikely given that GRRM is such a popular writer), will be worth a lot of money, because that book will have a massive press run, but there will only be a few ARCs. The hard back copy of ADWD will likely not have much residual value, as the publisher will print a gagillion copies.
 
Advance readers are aimed at book buyers and sellers. The publisher wants to build interest and to promote new and already established author's as well. Some publishing houses print a large number of ARCs, in the hundreds, others only a few dozen copies for specific reviewers.

Large chain stores often get them as they want the book sellers to read them and then recommend them when they come out. In my opinion this only works if the book is actually a good read.:rolleyes:

You can only get them if someone has one to sell. I find them by searching on Ebay for ARC, Advance Reader, Proof, Galley, and Uncorrected.

I've managed to pick up a few, Sword of Shannara, Eye of the World, Name of the Wind, Old Man's War, and about 20 others. The best item I saw was a friend had a Ender's Game ARC, signed by Card.

The one I would like to find is the Proof for Slan. Rumor has it that in the original series version of Slan John W. Campbell had convinced Van Vogt that the ending had to be changed. Van Vogt wanted to restore "his" ending" for the Arkham House fix-up version. Arkham put out a very limited number of review copies and most of the reviewers agreed that the ending should remain the same as the magazine version. I've always wondered what changes were made.
 
There are ARCs that don't have cover art and ones that do. I wonder which one wins out in terms of value. :)
 
I found what looks like a first edition of God Emperor of Dune signed by Frank Herbert. How can I tell if it is a first edition? It does say Copyright 1981. I would like to sell it, but want to make sure I describe it correctly.
 

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