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Re: DISCUSSION the 75 Word Challenge JUNE 2011
Oooh, that's good....
Oooh, that's good....
Discussion -- June 2011 Challenge
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Re: DISCUSSION the 75 Word Challenge JUNE 2011
Look, anyone who survived this month needn't be afraid of anything (that was, incidentally, a standard(ish) creative writing exercise {my clever sister used to teach it} but, as far as I know, no-one has ever attempted it in seventy-five words before).
You know, in my previous post I didn't congratulate Mosaix on his spectacular (and well deserved) win.
*Supplies grovelling adulation*
As always I find it sad that several class stories got no reward; there seems no way round this, with fewer voting than writing (Those chickens – excuse me "sensibly cautious individuals" – who dursen't write could at least have added their voices to the decision.
Look, anyone who survived this month needn't be afraid of anything (that was, incidentally, a standard(ish) creative writing exercise {my clever sister used to teach it} but, as far as I know, no-one has ever attempted it in seventy-five words before).
You know, in my previous post I didn't congratulate Mosaix on his spectacular (and well deserved) win.
*Supplies grovelling adulation*
As always I find it sad that several class stories got no reward; there seems no way round this, with fewer voting than writing (Those chickens – excuse me "sensibly cautious individuals" – who dursen't write could at least have added their voices to the decision.
HoopyFrood
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I did indeed vote.
I did indeed vote.
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Perp , I did like that one.
Perp , I did like that one.
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Thanks, Teresa and thanks to everyone else for their congratulations.
I hope to come up with a Challenge for July sometime tomorrow.
Thanks, Teresa and thanks to everyone else for their congratulations.
I hope to come up with a Challenge for July sometime tomorrow.
Re: DISCUSSION the 75 Word Challenge JUNE 2011
I was especially pleased to get the vote of the person who actually set the challenge.
And I agree with Chris that there were several excellent pieces of writing that got no votes. But, and I'd be interested in other's opinions on this, I thought that some excellent entries didn't actually constitute a 'story' and may have suffered in the voting because of that.
I was especially pleased to get the vote of the person who actually set the challenge.
And I agree with Chris that there were several excellent pieces of writing that got no votes. But, and I'd be interested in other's opinions on this, I thought that some excellent entries didn't actually constitute a 'story' and may have suffered in the voting because of that.
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I'd definitely agree with that. Unfortunately the nature of this month's challenge seemed to inspire non-narrative poems, and while there were many excellent examples of such, I had to discard them from consideration because they just didn't meet the requirement to tell a story.
I'd definitely agree with that. Unfortunately the nature of this month's challenge seemed to inspire non-narrative poems, and while there were many excellent examples of such, I had to discard them from consideration because they just didn't meet the requirement to tell a story.
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I, too, passed over a number of very fine entries because I couldn't quite convince myself that there was a narrative (although I really did try to convince myself, because I liked them so much) -- entries I would have voted for in anything that wasn't specifically a story competition.
When it's July may depend, in part, on which time zone mosaix is in and when he's awake.
I, too, passed over a number of very fine entries because I couldn't quite convince myself that there was a narrative (although I really did try to convince myself, because I liked them so much) -- entries I would have voted for in anything that wasn't specifically a story competition.
When it's July may depend, in part, on which time zone mosaix is in and when he's awake.
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Hmmm, perhaps I made a mistake in the entry I went with the wrong one...
Here it is again, cut down to 75 words. I'm not sure it reads quite so well, so maybe not the poem was the better choise after all.
Listen well, I shall tell you of how Dragon got his flame. He was far from home, his scales lost of their hued tones. No rabbit, sheep nor man, no prey and dragon starved, there was not a drop of water.
He came upon a pool of molten rock, bubbling from down below; in desperation he did drink.
Quenched was his thirst, but Best Beloved, it ignited a fire in his mouth that never extinguished.
Hmmm, perhaps I made a mistake in the entry I went with the wrong one...
Here it is again, cut down to 75 words. I'm not sure it reads quite so well, so maybe not the poem was the better choise after all.
Listen well, I shall tell you of how Dragon got his flame. He was far from home, his scales lost of their hued tones. No rabbit, sheep nor man, no prey and dragon starved, there was not a drop of water.
He came upon a pool of molten rock, bubbling from down below; in desperation he did drink.
Quenched was his thirst, but Best Beloved, it ignited a fire in his mouth that never extinguished.
Boneman
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Re: DISCUSSION the 75 Word Challenge JUNE 2011
Simple... give us more votes... Worked for the 300 worder (whistles nonchanlantly)
Simple... give us more votes... Worked for the 300 worder (whistles nonchanlantly)
Re: DISCUSSION the 75 Word Challenge JUNE 2011
But if some stories were deemed lacking a narrative (or an obvious one) by some voters, those voters would simply sprinkle their extra votes amongst other entries with more evident narratives, further highlighting the non-narrative entries' alleged failings.
But if some stories were deemed lacking a narrative (or an obvious one) by some voters, those voters would simply sprinkle their extra votes amongst other entries with more evident narratives, further highlighting the non-narrative entries' alleged failings.
StormFeather
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Late to the congratulations, I know (did try to post this yesterday - it didn't work for some reason and as I was very grumpy yesterday I had to step away or throw the computer at the wall)
Congratulations Mosaix - a fab story and a deserved win!!!
Can't wait to see what next months theme is - although when I see it I'm sure I'll be struggling!
While I'm on briefly this morning, can I ask/challenge/beg for more voters on the photography challenge. If you haven't seen them this month, there are some stonkingly good pictures taken on Mouse's chosen theme of 'Nature'. Go check them out here:
http://www.sffchronicles.co.uk/forum/532040-june-photography-challenge-please-read-first-post.html
and then vote here:
http://www.sffchronicles.co.uk/forum/532393-poll-june-photography-challenge.html
Late to the congratulations, I know (did try to post this yesterday - it didn't work for some reason and as I was very grumpy yesterday I had to step away or throw the computer at the wall
)Congratulations Mosaix - a fab story and a deserved win!!!
Can't wait to see what next months theme is - although when I see it I'm sure I'll be struggling!
While I'm on briefly this morning, can I ask/challenge/beg for more voters on the photography challenge. If you haven't seen them this month, there are some stonkingly good pictures taken on Mouse's chosen theme of 'Nature'. Go check them out here:
http://www.sffchronicles.co.uk/forum/532040-june-photography-challenge-please-read-first-post.html
and then vote here:
http://www.sffchronicles.co.uk/forum/532393-poll-june-photography-challenge.html
Re: DISCUSSION the 75 Word Challenge JUNE 2011
Of course it is up to each writer and each voter to decide whether an entry has a narrative or not. We wouldn't have it any other way. But the first rule at the head of the thread each month is "write a story in 75 words or less" -- which is the very thing that makes the word count so challenging -- and I would hope we'd all keep that idea buzzing around somewhere in our minds as we compose our entries.
Of course it is up to each writer and each voter to decide whether an entry has a narrative or not. We wouldn't have it any other way. But the first rule at the head of the thread each month is "write a story in 75 words or less" -- which is the very thing that makes the word count so challenging -- and I would hope we'd all keep that idea buzzing around somewhere in our minds as we compose our entries.
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I can't, and I'm not, arguing with that, Teresa, only the idea that giving voters extra votes would somehow give non-narrative entries more votes. (As you say, the possession of a narrative is one of the requirements of an entry, although there will inevitably be some people who see a narrative in some stories where others don't.)
I mentioned the lack of narrative because it seemed to me - though I haven't done statistical survey, so the impression I gained could be wrong - that where a reason was given for not voting for some (unidentified) entries, the lack of a narrative was the most numerous one. (The only other one I can think of off the top of my head - again this might be wrong - is poetry. Personally I do not like poetry entries; apart, that is, from the ones good enough to get a vote or go on my short list, obviously.)
I can't, and I'm not, arguing with that, Teresa, only the idea that giving voters extra votes would somehow give non-narrative entries more votes. (As you say, the possession of a narrative is one of the requirements of an entry, although there will inevitably be some people who see a narrative in some stories where others don't.)
I mentioned the lack of narrative because it seemed to me - though I haven't done statistical survey, so the impression I gained could be wrong - that where a reason was given for not voting for some (unidentified) entries, the lack of a narrative was the most numerous one. (The only other one I can think of off the top of my head - again this might be wrong - is poetry. Personally I do not like poetry entries; apart, that is, from the ones good enough to get a vote or go on my short list, obviously.
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Presumably if one considers an entry to be non-narrative , then they shouldn't vote for it regardless of the number of votes they have at their disposal. As has been said though, narration can be in the eye of the beholder and where one feels that they are being guided down a path another may see an empty field; poetry especially can have this effect. Of course it's dificult to tell a story in 75 words , let alone a good one; but therein lies the Challenge...
Presumably if one considers an entry to be non-narrative , then they shouldn't vote for it regardless of the number of votes they have at their disposal. As has been said though, narration can be in the eye of the beholder and where one feels that they are being guided down a path another may see an empty field; poetry especially can have this effect. Of course it's dificult to tell a story in 75 words , let alone a good one; but therein lies the Challenge...
Re: DISCUSSION the 75 Word Challenge JUNE 2011
Sorry, Ursa. I wasn't arguing with your post about extra votes, though I can see how it would look that way. I was just continuing the discussion about entries that did not appear to tell a story.
On the subject of extra votes, I agree that people would probably not use them to vote for stories that didn't fit their personal criteria, no matter how much they might like them otherwise. Obviously, there are other arguments to be made in favor of extra votes, which is why we have them for the other Challenge.
Sorry, Ursa. I wasn't arguing with your post about extra votes, though I can see how it would look that way. I was just continuing the discussion about entries that did not appear to tell a story.
On the subject of extra votes, I agree that people would probably not use them to vote for stories that didn't fit their personal criteria, no matter how much they might like them otherwise. Obviously, there are other arguments to be made in favor of extra votes, which is why we have them for the other Challenge.
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