3.09 The Rains of Castamere

Well, the Red Wedding was all I could hope for and more. My non-book reading friends are about to drink cyanide after watching that episode. It was brutal but beautifully done.

Some interesting changes and I think it debunks some rampant theories about Jeyne Westerling. I look forward to Lady Stoneheart. They did not sew Grey Wind's head on Robb's corpse though. Maybe in the next episode.

If you noticed, there are two former Harry Potter movie actors in the series. Of course Osha and Walder Frey who is played by David Bradley who playes Filch in the HP movies.

The Arya and Hound scenes were fantastic.

Here is an interview with Richard Madden (Robb) and Michelle Fairley (Cat)
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Game-Thrones-Deaths-Red-Wedding-Stark-1066224.aspx
 
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Interesting that we see repeated suggestions of Michelle Fairley leaving. Especially considering the encounter Brienne has later in the books.
 
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I think she said the end of playing Catelyn. I think her "leaving" is something to throw off non-book readers.
 
Polite reminder about book spoilers please!

This episode was horrific but incredibly well done. The build-up as Catelyn slowly realised something was amiss was fantastic and for someone who hasn't read the books the whole scene left me in shock!
 
What most series call a season-finale, GOT calls just another episode. If that wasn't the final episode to leave us on the edges of our seats awaiting the next one, we really must be in for something special.

Unfortuantely Robb has turned out to be too much like his father; being honest and trusting in the GOT universe only gets you killed. Of course Robb going back on his word, and then - even worse - parading his new fiance in front of the sleighted ruler wasn't the brightest of ideas; it does surprise me that even if he wasn't bright enough to realise that his mother would be. Not that I'm saying it was any excuse for what happened, but it certainly didn't help.
 
FeedMeTV said:
Polite reminder about book spoilers please!

This episode was horrific but incredibly well done. The build-up as Catelyn slowly realised something was amiss was fantastic and for someone who hasn't read the books the whole scene left me in shock!
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Same here! From the closing of the doors, to the rolling up of the sleeve to reveal chainmail underneath, it really was quite chilling.
 
Saw this and thought it was perfect:

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Great episode, and i thought the Red Wedding well executed. The book had more of an impact for me, but of course it came first, so that follows. My wife is a non-reader, and while she was shocked, she said Ned's death had had more impact.
 
paranoid marvin said:
What most series call a season-finale, GOT calls just another episode. If that wasn't the final episode to leave us on the edges of our seats awaiting the next one, we really must be in for something special.

Unfortuantely Robb has turned out to be too much like his father; being honest and trusting in the GOT universe only gets you killed. Of course Robb going back on his word, and then - even worse - parading his new fiance in front of the sleighted ruler wasn't the brightest of ideas; it does surprise me that even if he wasn't bright enough to realise that his mother would be. Not that I'm saying it was any excuse for what happened, but it certainly didn't help.
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The old traditions (breaking bread / guest rights), honor and such seem to be the cross for many characters to bear . . . to their deaths. Ned, and Robb. Where did being honorable get them? Then, you have the flip side, characters punished for NOT being honorable (Jaime might fit into this when he lost his hand) and others in the future.

It's a fine line, it seems.
 
I thought the episode was generally really well put together. The scene that actually moved me the most was Bran and Rickon's parting, and the little guy did exceptionally well in his first real bit of acting of the show.
 
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It's amazing how few people actually know the characters' names.
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I'm not surprised, to be honest. One thing the show doesn't do well is explaining who the characters are. Half the time you only know their names, or recognise them because you've read the books. If I hadn't read the books, I probably wouldn't know half the characters names either. I know my brother who I watch the show with every week - he hasn't read the books - doesn't know most the character names.
 
Feh, I didn't know all the names of the characters in Vikings for at least 4-5 episodes, but it didn't damper my enjoyment of it. :)
 
Warren_Paul said:
I'm not surprised, to be honest. One thing the show doesn't do well is explaining who the characters are. Half the time you only know their names, or recognise them because you've read the books. If I hadn't read the books, I probably wouldn't know half the characters names either. I know my brother who I watch the show with every week - he hasn't read the books - doesn't know most the character names.
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Same with my wife. She'd be clueless if I wasn't sitting next to her. It's not too bad when the characters look different, but man does she have trouble with Tywin, Stannis and Roose Bolton.
 
Culhwch said:
Same with my wife. She'd be clueless if I wasn't sitting next to her. It's not too bad when the characters look different, but man does she have trouble with Tywin, Stannis and Roose Bolton.
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I think Stannis and Roose Bolton have quite similar appearances in the show. I can't see their resemblance with Tywin, though.

Robb Stark and Jon Snow also look sort of similar. Of course, they are supposed to be half-brothers, so there is a point in that.
 
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Same with my wife. She'd be clueless if I wasn't sitting next to her. It's not too bad when the characters look different, but man does she have trouble with Tywin, Stannis and Roose Bolton.
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Or to mention those characters have never shared a scene, or even been in the same area before. :confused:
 
Gumboot said:
I thought the episode was generally really well put together. The scene that actually moved me the most was Bran and Rickon's parting, and the little guy did exceptionally well in his first real bit of acting of the show.
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Yes, I thought Art Parkinson did very well there and I hope they keep him and don't do that "tv thing" and recast him when/if his part gets bulked up.

Also we had no less than three (3!) direwolf sightings in this episode, which is probably the most since they were first introduced.
 
I don't know if this has been discussed before, but I don't even think the breach of marrige agreement on Robb's part was all that dishonourable. At least not as bad as the Freys would have it.
Why? Because it was a concession that came out of extortion of his liegelord. Yes, I read that House Frey is a vassal family of the Tully's here. What right did he have to refuse Robb's army passage in the first place? Is not doing so treason in itself?

I understand that snake didn't see it that way, but as far as I am concerned, he had Robb's breach of agreement coming, and I think most readers/viewers will be fairly unsympathetic to his reason to feel slighted. This may also be one of the reasons Robb didn't feel quite as bound to honour to that agreement as the Starks feel bound to honour in other ways. Agreement under gunpoint (figuratively and literally) is not nearly as morally binding as other agreements, in my not very humble opinion.
 
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