DISCUSSION -- January 2015 75 Word Writing Challenge

I started this post, got distracted and didn't realise I didn't actually post it!
I'm sure I posted a thanks to Chrispy for short-listing my story --

Thanks, Chrispy! :)
-- but obviously didn't check that it was accepted. (Ever since the move to the new server, I'm having to hit 'Post Reply' and 'Save Changes' at least twice. (And replying to the sentence above by selecting the text rather than using the Reply button at the bottom right of Cul's post require six -- yes SIX -- attempts to make it appear in the posting window.


(And I had to try to post this twice (and save the changes twice); it ignored the first time. :( )
 
if we are now telling about our stories origins, then i would like to give a nod to the bravest newbie's story.
newbie's story haunted me. mainly because when i was young something similar happened.
so for them.. and for the characters in newbie's story, i wanted to offer them a happy ending.
in the hope that somewhere .. some-when, there would be a place for them,
(to paraphrase the Barbara Striesand song.)

anyways, any votes i got, i consider to be shared between me and the bravest newbie...as the founder of the piece, newbie richly deserves them.
 
Ursa, I can't recall sure if it was my first reaction (I re-read all of the stories a few times) but I think I took it to be that the mirror's answer came from love/ devotion to the queen.

I have a question for readers.

Upon reading my story, what gender did you think the Protagonist/ Narrator was, or did you not give it any thought? In my mind 'he' was male, but in re-writing before posting, I actually decided to remove anything that indicated gender of the narrator, I suspect that we tend towards 'seeing' a heterosexual encounter, but if anyone saw the narrator as female, I'd be interested to know.
 
I have been away from the computer for several days, so I missed the chance to vote. In any case:

Parson -- This merry tale conveys the passions of the body in a convincing and unexpected way.

Ursa major -- The author presents a fresh and imaginative perspective on a classic tale.

mosaix -- This slice of psychological insight cuts swiftly, silently, and gently, but it cuts deeply.

jastius -- With subtle hints the author paints a detailed portrait of complex relationships.

The Judge -- Playful wit abounds in this highly original story.

StilLearning -- This striking and imaginative look at ancient concepts is sure to effect the reader profoundly.

TheDustyZebra -- With great insight into the youthful heart, this emotional story will touch all who read it.

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To answer the question posed by Cascade, I pictured the narrator as male. I'm sure that says more about me than the author.

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For whatever it might be worth, I think I would have voted for "Meine Liebe" by Culhwch, which struck me for its great emotional impact and depth of psychological insight, while avoiding any trace of sentimentality.

On my very short list I would also place "Elle etait si jolie" by holland for its nostalgic, bittersweet mood.

"The Call of the North" by springs would also be on that list, and is a very deserving winner. Many congratulations.

Sincere thanks for those who thought my little bagatelle worthy of mention.
 
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Upon reading my story, what gender did you think the Protagonist/ Narrator was, or did you not give it any thought? In my mind 'he' was male, but in re-writing before posting, I actually decided to remove anything that indicated gender of the narrator, I suspect that we tend towards 'seeing' a heterosexual encounter, but if anyone saw the narrator as female, I'd be interested to know.

I saw the narrator as male, but looking back at it, I see it could easily have been a female.

And Ursa, I saw the mirror as being in love with the queen but not wanting to harm the girl. (And I'm trying to remember what dreadful story I wrote from that mirror's POV, a long time back.)
 
I saw the narrator as male too. I could hear his voice in my head. Sneaking away at 3am...

(which does, of course, indicate I assume a heterosexual relationship unless there's an indication it's not; is it true, though, that heterosexuality is more common, so I can plead statistical likelihood, not unexamined privilege?)
 
ursa, i thought the mirror was in love with the queen too and was torn between that and not wanting to hurt the princess

cascades i too saw the narrator as male, which may be a heterosexual bias or it could have been that his actions were more "typically" male (as portrayed in popular culture)

as for my story, i struggled to get something in the genre so was very pleased with a vote. the idea was to get the valiant saviour going against his instinctive "love's choice" to save his betrothed but saving her anyway and then trying to raise the question of whether that meant he had betrayed her or actually in the end did make the right choice. which all ended up too much for 75 words!
 
I'll be doing the statistics in a few days, showing how things have altered on the leader board with this month's voting, but first a post about voting itself.

When we create the polls, we include the words "Vote for your favourite story" and by "favourite" we mean, obviously, the one preferred. That might not be the best story in a technical sense, or the one containing the best imagery, much less the one with the best grammar, but it's the one that grips and holds you the most, or the one which makes you laugh the most, or cry the most, or the one which you can't forget after reading it. As in all things, taste will vary from member to member, and, indeed, from month to month. But the important word in "Vote for your favourite story" is not in fact "favourite" it's "story". We vote for the writing, not the writer.

As I say, taste varies, and we have our likes and dislikes. For me it's a rare month when neither TDZ's nor Phyrebrat's stories catch my eye, because they write in a way that resonates with me. But when I've voted for them, I've voted for the stories they produced that month, not because of their past work much less who they are. Similarly, a long while ago someone who shall be nameless (to protect the guilty**), confirmed he didn't much like fantasy, poetry, or things with hidden meanings. Since at the time I was producing poems based on Greek myth with hidden messages in them, no one will be surprised to hear I got no votes from the old curmudgeon, but as far as I know he doesn't have an effigy of me in which he sticks pins. He voted for the stories which worked for him, as he still does.

From time to time concerns are aired, rarely publically but more often in third-hand whispers, that some voting is irregular. Older members may recall that in the very first year of the Challenges a newbie in effect complained that votes only went to established members. I wasn't a mod at the time, but I was even then doing statistics so I was able to say this:
In November alchemist, who joined in September, got 4 votes. That was more than the total votes cast for Boneman, Mouse, HareBrain, me, Teresa and Parson ie 6 previous winners/tie-breakers. Sephiroth and chopper didn't enter, but of the 9 entrants on the "Hall of Fame" only Hoopy came in with more votes than alchemist. In this respect, I'd also mention Mag the Mighty. He failed to score last month but before that he had entered two Challenges and received 4 votes each time. As an average that was better than anyone, even HareBrain.

Those older members may also recall that at one time there did indeed appear to be a cabal of newish members where some collusion between them was suspected when it came to voting. That matter was cleared up, and since then we have had no evidence whatsoever of any kind of conspiracy, collusion, quid pro quos, or you-scratch-my-back-etc agreements. None at all.

However, regrettably and regretfully, this month we did remove a vote, with the agreement of the vote's recipient, because it could too easily have been perceived as a vote not for the story, but for that recipient as an individual. We debated a good while about it, but the removal of the vote, no matter how intrusive, was to us a lesser evil than the damage of that perception taking hold of a large number of members, and accordingly of affecting the reputation of the Challenges. We took no pleasure in doing it. We don't want ever to have to do it again. But we will if we have to. That isn't to say we will listen to whispering campaigns and malicious gossip, but we will investigate any issues brought to us, and we will defend the integrity of the Challenges as a whole.

I know I'm preaching to the converted here, but to sum up, vote for the story which is best to your mind. Do not vote out of affection, sympathy, or for any other reason. We vote for the piece, not the person.

Now go and do something useful, like giving me an idea for the 300 worder I've got to write today.


** no names, no pack drill. But his name has 6 letters, begins with "m" and ends with"x" :whistle: :p
 
Congratulations, Springs :)

Also, thank for the listing, ratsy and thanks for making me one of your finalists, Boneman!
 
@Bowler1 ... Remember my son, "Thou shalt not commit murder."

Why would I ever kill Juliana, that would be a silly waste. Much better to stun my victim, that way I get to do it again and again. Saying that however, she has this running lark well covered and I've had no luck finding my victim... ahem, her... since. I'm being good here, I'm not even using my bowls inducer RAY GUN, just a straight up stun gun.

Bowler1 eyes up Parson. I've not shot a man of the faith yet.

Should I.

Should I not.

ZZzzaaaapppppp.

Too right I should. I'm so going to hell.
 
Well said, TJ. I always vote with my heart but I often feel bad for not voting for/mentioning the people I like.

One problem is when I first read the stories I keep a list in a notebook as I go with a note about each and a provisional marks out of 10. By the time voting comes round and I read them again I can't understand why I gave one story a 9 and the next a 4 when it could easily be the other way round. I suppose it depends on the mood I'm in at the time or what I ate for dinner or something. Doesn't say much for my though. :(
 
I'm much less scientific. I do, however, base my opinions on how each story follows the theme, etc. If it is supposed to be Noir, it's got to be Noir. I've thrown out excellent stories because I didn't feel they followed the rules. I personally do my best to write stories that follow the rules, so I expect others to do the same.

That said, I read all the entries straight through once, mentally noting the ones that I find interesting. I don't look at who wrote individual stories until after I've read them. Usually, there is one that sticks out to me, but if there are more (like this month), I reread those, and decide from the few that remain. I don't have time to read most stories more than once.
 
I really try to just look at the story. Sometimes I have familiar faces on my lists but more often than not the lists are quite random looking. Everyone here is great, and all good writers with imaginations. It is so hard to be the best story out of 40-50 stories so I understand that its amazing to get a vote and mentions. I truly just want to let my favorite stories authors know how much I liked their work on an unbiased level because that is more important than any popularity contest, which I don't think we ever consider these challenges.

Looking forward to another month and let's see what springs comes up with! :)
 
I read all but if my attention wanders sometimes not to the end - if I can't be kept interested for 75/300 words then it hasn't done it's job. I take a note of those i loved, then read them put to Mr Springs who says which he liked and the make my choice (often completely overriding Mr Springs in the process.)

I do tend to have writers I like, of course. Hex is so hooky she's hard to look past, Alchemist usually hits the mark with me, Harebrain and Teresa are so precisely lovely in their language, but I'm generally loather to vote for them (sorry, guys) because I know I have a soft spot so theirs have to be very, very good.

I also always vote early because I worry if it was close and one of the frontrunners was a mate, i'd be tempted. Voting early keeps me honest. :)

Now, no one has sent cake. So it's all your own fault tomorrow. Just so you know. ;)
 
ZZZZZ ahhhhh! I,I,I,I ca,ca,ca,can't type! --- {Thinks: Father forgive him for he knows not what he does.}

I spotted a typo. It should be, "Father forgive him, for he knows all too well what he does". Which is why I'm going down.

This thread is ending and my prey has eluded me. You can't win 'em all. Well done again Springs, I'm off to new hunting grounds.
 

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