Lets Talk About Things Science Cannot Explain

[J Riff]

Well, there's (----------) .... then there's that XXXXX stuff..... that (DELETED) .... can you imagine if people knew about that stuff?

 

[Venusian Broon]

Perhaps your feeling that there's nothing after death could be a fantastic opportunity for freedom. Freedom from illusion. Just a thought.

Actually when I realised at a very early age that, for me, religion had no answers regarding the afterlife I found that the fact that absolutely anything could happen after death incredibly freeing (whose to say that you just fall away into nothingness? Isn't that just the same as saying you'd go to heaven or hell?)

I'm hoping I wake up after death finding that I'm in a total reality game and meet Duane Dibbley, Jake Bullet and the Doyles moaning about getting 4% in their game (but we're not in the horrible society that the despair squid painted for them...)

 

[Ray McCarthy]

I think we have to treat it as per Schrödinger's cat.
Act as if both possibilities are equally true.

1. There is nothing
2. You still exist

after death finding that I'm in a total reality game

See https://xkcd.com/393/

Text = "RIP Gary"

 

[BAYLOR]

Perhaps your feeling that there's nothing after death could be a fantastic opportunity for freedom. Freedom from illusion. Just a thought.

Nil

Actually when I realised at a very early age that, for me, religion had no answers regarding the afterlife I found that the fact that absolutely anything could happen after death incredibly freeing (whose to say that you just fall away into nothingness? Isn't that just the same as saying you'd go to heaven or hell?)

I'm hoping I wake up after death finding that I'm in a total reality game and meet Duane Dibbley, Jake Bullet and the Doyles moaning about getting 4% in their game (but we're not in the horrible society that the despair squid painted for them...)

People call it liberating ? I find the concept of nothing after death to be a supremely depressing concept.

 

[BAYLOR]

Okay so who is going to bring up Bertrand Russell's Teakettle in space ?


One import thing remember here , if you are a teakettle in space , no one can hear you steam.

 

[BAYLOR]

I think we have to treat it as per Schrödinger's cat.
Act as if both possibilities are equally true.

1. There is nothing
2. You still exist

See https://xkcd.com/393/

Text = "RIP Gary"

3. This is all a dream.

 

[Ray McCarthy]

@BAYLOR
Am I a figment in your dream, or you in mine, or is it someone else dreaming us?

 

[BAYLOR]

@BAYLOR
Am I a figment in your dream, or you in mine, or is it someone else dreaming us?

We could both be a figment of a Dream that Schrodinger's cat is having .

The thought that this is all dream has crossed my mind on more then a few occasions. If so ,I doubt im the dreamer. Im just not imaginative enough to dream this level of detail.

 

[Stephen Palmer]

So little skepticism!

 

[BAYLOR]

So little skepticism!

When it comes to skepticism, Im rather skeptical of it.

 

[Dennis E. Taylor]

One very real possibility is touched upon in Baxter/Clarke's book "The Light of Other Days." In the end, the protagonist wakes up in a hospital bed. Turns out he died. In this distant future, humanity has the ability to look back in time and scan and reproduce everyone who ever lived. It's kind of a Riverworld alternative.

So if it's even remotely possible for humanity to ever get this advanced, I expect to die and then wake up instantly in a hospital bed. And the first thing I'll ask is, "what's the date?"

 

[Ray McCarthy]

look back in time and scan and reproduce everyone who ever lived

But why? (I mean why everyone )

There is a more fun, lower tech method of reproduction. Some religions even claim it brings back dead people.

 

[BAYLOR]

But why? (I mean why everyone )

There is a more fun, lower tech method of reproduction. Some religions even claim it brings back dead people.

Who knows? If y, such might be the case

One very real possibility is touched upon in Baxter/Clarke's book "The Light of Other Days." In the end, the protagonist wakes up in a hospital bed. Turns out he died. In this distant future, humanity has the ability to look back in time and scan and reproduce everyone who ever lived. It's kind of a Riverworld alternative.

So if it's even remotely possible for humanity to ever get this advanced, I expect to die and then wake up instantly in a hospital bed. And the first thing I'll ask is, "what's the date?"

Then there's the H. P Lovecraft story The Shadow Out of Time .

 

[Dave]

But why? (I mean why everyone )

There is a more fun, lower tech method of reproduction. Some religions even claim it brings back dead people.

There are already too many people on this planet. Why not just give people multiple memories instead in the manner of Bene Gesserit Other Memory (genetic memory.)

I feel this thread has strayed well off topic from the OP.

 

[BAYLOR]

There are already too many people on this planet. Why not just give people multiple memories instead in the manner of Bene Gesserit Other Memory (genetic memory.)

I feel this thread has strayed well off topic from the OP.

Any thoughts on how the Puma Punka Complex in Bolivia was built ? This one should hopefully put things back on track.

 

[J Riff]

I thought everyone knew it was built by giant ants and monkeys, mindcontrolled by aliens. Or maybe I mixed up some SF book with reality again.

 

[BAYLOR]

I thought everyone knew it was built by giant ants and monkeys, mindcontrolled by aliens. Or maybe I mixed up some SF book with reality again.

But how did the builders achieve uch precision in the construction of the place?

 

[Ray McCarthy]

String with knots.
Three guys with poles.

 

[Ray McCarthy]

You can do VERY long straight lines with three guys with poles (or spears).
With pegs and knotted cord you can do a multitude of accurate shapes of desired size.
Circle, ellipse, square, rectangle, triangle, hexagon, spiral, octagon, etc .
You can establish orientation easily by observation and even a stick in ground and peg out shadow etc.

Establishing a level is also easy 3000BC +

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surveying#Ancient_Surveying
(there is MUCH more that people knew how to do 5000 years ago not listed there.)

 

[Stephen Palmer]

See also the recent pair of BBC 'Stonehenge' programmes.